Why don't people like HTC anymore?

[delta7]

Sense.. is still a little too heavy, the EVO LTE is just ugly and too tall, Sprint is a poor carrier with data issues so that would hurt EVO sale, poor marketing by htc...

No removable battery, the One S being on Tmobile.....

Sense is a problem, not only is it kinda bloated it has no where near the features of touchwiz in the gs3... Smartactions on motorola...

It's about software....HTC is falling behind on that.

 

[xlDeMoNiClx]

People hate (or at least dislike it) HTC for the same reason most peopel love Apple: the name. Apple has been a big name for a while so people who like their products are automatically gona ssume that their next one is the op-of-the-line.

HTC is newer, and not as many people know how good their phones are. Once more people see the great quality of an HTC phone then HTC will begin to become as big a name as Apple and they'll get more postive backing from consumers.

 

[Ry]

People hate (or at least dislike it) HTC for the same reason most peopel love Apple: the name. Apple has been a big name for a while so people who like their products are automatically gona ssume that their next one is the op-of-the-line.

HTC is newer, and not as many people know how good their phones are. Once more people see the great quality of an HTC phone then HTC will begin to become as big a name as Apple and they'll get more postive backing from consumers.

They saw the quality from the Thunderbolt and switched to another OEM.

It's more than a name thing.

Just sayin'.



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[JDGAFFLIN]

Google is emphasizing on cloud storage etc so if you are to lazy nd ignorant to accept the next thong then sir you have a problem there is no need for an sd card when I have features such as:

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Ignorant, huh? Stay classy.

I won't buy a phone without a microSD slot. Just because you like utilizing those cloud services, doesn't mean everyone else does. Assuming so is as you say, "lazy & ignorant".

And in the long run, missing features like that drive people away from a brand.

 

[slingo]

I don't get all this stuff about the One X not having a removably battery and *only* having 32 gb storage (not forgetting the 25 gb dropbox thrown in for good measure). How much space do you really need on a phone for goodness sake? You would have to travel to the moon and back several times to listen to 32 gbs worth of music - not 20 mins on the bus to work! And as for photos, does anyone really want to keep their precious loved ones photos on a device that can easily get lost or nicked? Surely the sensible option is to upload them online somewhere anyway? The iphone has never had a removable battery, doesn't support flash or bluetooth but does anyone ever complain about that?? Basically it comes down to marketing - Samsung and Apple have the financial might to market their products, but HTC spent years making stuff for others before trying to make their own brand and bearing that in mind have done a good job to get into the top five manufacturers - ahead of even Motorola who have been making mobiles since they first came out! HTC products are well made and are built to last and I hope they can begin to make some noise in the market instead of being "quietly brilliant"!

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

Sense.. is still a little too heavy, the EVO LTE is just ugly and too tall, Sprint is a poor carrier with data issues so that would hurt EVO sale, poor marketing by htc...

No removable battery, the One S being on Tmobile.....

Sense is a problem, not only is it kinda bloated it has no where near the features of touchwiz in the gs3... Smartactions on motorola...

It's about software....HTC is falling behind on that.

So if Sense is kinda bloated what does that make Touchwiz? The biggest elephant on Earth? Touchwiz is definitely bigger than Sense, for a marginal gain in software "features". Smartactions on Motorola are the same as a few apps available in the market.

Yes, it's about software, and HTC went in the RIGHT direction IMO. Less bloat than before, more lean, smoother, useful features.

Ignorant, huh? Stay classy.

I won't buy a phone without a microSD slot. Just because you like utilizing those cloud services, doesn't mean everyone else does. Assuming so is as you say, "lazy & ignorant".

And in the long run, missing features like that drive people away from a brand.

SD cards also go against the Android design guidelines. It might drive people away from a brand, but eventually every brand will ditch it. Where will you go then?

 

[icebike]

I don't get all this stuff about the One X not having a removably battery and *only* having 32 gb storage (not forgetting the 25 gb dropbox thrown in for good measure). How much space do you really need on a phone for goodness sake?

Some of the people complaining about this have huge microsd cards that are virtually empty. They just want bragging rights.
Others use it as their secret porn stash so they can hide it from their mom or GF. It takes a lot of battery to watch that much porn.

I'm only half kidding here.

Yeah there are farmers driving tractor out in the middle of nowhere that need all their music on the device because they are on the fringe of cell service, or delivery drivers, or people that just live in fringe areas. Those folks may have a battery problem that you or I don't experience. I get 20 hours easily.

But unless you are on the go 24/7 on foot or a motorcycle (or homeless) where you can't charge, most of them are making it up based on past experiences, and none of them have actually tried the HOX. They read the battery size, and their mind closes like a steel trap, because they can't understand that the HOX is way more battery efficient than whatever clunker phone they based their opinion on.

 

[briankariu]

I think HTC diluted their brand name with soooo many phones across soo many different carriers with only minor spec bumps to each. Consumers can get very irate. You purchase a HTC flagship phone today, two weeks later, another one pops out, better than what you have at the same price point. If you are a customer, would that seat very well with you? Case in point, people were spewing lava and fireballs after Motorola dropped the RAZR MAXX 2 months after the RAZR release.
HTC will come bounce back. All they need to do is continue making awesome products and have one(1) flagship a year, they will definitely gain traction again. They should also try expanding into Africa and other regions. They pulled out from most markets other than USA and Europe.
I have a HOX by the way

 

[Crispy]

In all honesty, I though we were going to see less variants when HTC launched the One Series line, yet we still have the Desire line not to mention the EVO 4G LTE and DROID Incredible 4G LTE.

The only television ad I recall for the One series is the guy jumping out of a plane taking photos. There probably should have been more.

Who's winning internationally? Especially in China?

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Evo and Droid are brands used by Sprint/Verizon and there was no way they'd not use that brand image. HTC isn't big enough to force the US carriers to not use their brands or make changes. And the Evo 4G LTE is better than the international One X in every way.

Now HTC is going to introduce a better One X in the hopes of gaining marketshare, and it's not going to work. What they need is some focused marketing to really highlight HTC strengths. Sense has a terrible reputation which it does not deserve. Show how useful Sense is in ads, show the build quality, and most importantly, tell people why your phones are better than Apple or Samsung. Apple isn't afraid to lie about the competition and go after them by name, why are Android phone makers so hesitant to attack Apple and the iPhone's many weaknesses.

 

[garrim85]

I am so sick of people citing the battery as a reason to not get the One X. My battery life has been nothing but great, no complaints. That argument is total BS. Quit reading numbers on a page and USE the phone yourself for a while, you'd be surprised.

 

[Larzzzz]

I am in the minority, but my grief lies in their support for custom ROMS, and the dev community.
I have owned 1 N1, an Aria, 2 Inspires, and 2 Vivids. With all the phones prior to the vivids I could unlock and root pretty easily. Custom ROMS were a plenty. By the time I upgraded to the Vivids, HTC had started hoarding code, and monking with the backside making flashing kernels a pain. Most custom ROMs are either crippled ports or attempts to remove as much HTC as possible and still work. With the Vivid, you'll never be able to flash a true AOSP (that is sad), MIUI is meh, and you can just out and out forget about Cyanogen.

HTC tried to brighten their image by releasing ICS on the Vivid as an OTA faster than any other manufacturer. In their rush they released flawed code, and still refused to release binaries or code to allow devs to, well, develope. Instead of fixing this code they have just abandoned the Vivid as out of date and creates yet another bad impression for the general consumer. Instead of supporting the power user, they ignore them. This results in the hardware being panned as yet *another* joke from HTC, even though it has amazing hardware specs affording it the longevity of previous HTC devices.

Their lack of attention to both the average consumer *and* the power user has tarnished the great reputation built on the N1 and Droid/Droid 2. The crap Inspire hardware, and their continued lack of dev support for more devices than the Vivid really shows how they messed up.

You can piss off one or the other, but piss off both and you lose market share fast.

Just my opinion.

 

[xlDeMoNiClx]

They saw the quality from the Thunderbolt and switched to another OEM.

It's more than a name thing.

Just sayin'.



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A name alone can still be a strong influence though.

Especially since people switch from one brand to another just cause they didn't like one single phone under that brand.

 

[2kchevy]

I had the Thunderbolt and I was on my 4th one and it was crap

 

[axllebeer]

Just to throw in my 2 cnts here about the One X, I have the HTC Evo 4G LTE on Sprint, the One X's brother so to speak. Every design difference other than the battery here was addressed with this phone IMO. Removable storage, even more of a premium feel to it, and also naturally the Evo kickstand (of course that's an Evo thing I know.)
I've been using this thing like a mad man since getting it and the battery really is a non-issue for me really, and that's coming from a long time BlackBerry user as well owning more batteries than you can shake a stick at. Also as noted by someone above, battery pack, yes I already had one and it's a good back up plan for sure. The One X is a great device on a fast network, the Evo is a greater (IMO) device on a, well, not so good network. If AT&T had the Evo, then I'm sure it would be selling even better.

 

[Savvyray]

I am in the minority, but my grief lies in their support for custom ROMS, and the dev community.
I have owned 1 N1, an Aria, 2 Inspires, and 2 Vivids. With all the phones prior to the vivids I could unlock and root pretty easily. Custom ROMS were a plenty. By the time I upgraded to the Vivids, HTC had started hoarding code, and monking with the backside making flashing kernels a pain. Most custom ROMs are either crippled ports or attempts to remove as much HTC as possible and still work. With the Vivid, you'll never be able to flash a true AOSP (that is sad), MIUI is meh, and you can just out and out forget about Cyanogen.

I love HTC and my Vivid. The Vivid was the first NA phone to be upgraded to ICS and it works pretty good still. I will buy an HTC with JB and give my wife my Vivid ( she has an inspire). I love sense and think it is the best skin. They do need to market better and bring back the SD card slot. IF they are going to stay with the non removable battery then they need to make it last a little longer. I always recommend HTC although Sammy is close behind.
HTC tried to brighten their image by releasing ICS on the Vivid as an OTA faster than any other manufacturer. In their rush they released flawed code, and still refused to release binaries or code to allow devs to, well, develope. Instead of fixing this code they have just abandoned the Vivid as out of date and creates yet another bad impression for the general consumer. Instead of supporting the power user, they ignore them. This results in the hardware being panned as yet *another* joke from HTC, even though it has amazing hardware specs affording it the longevity of previous HTC devices.

Their lack of attention to both the average consumer *and* the power user has tarnished the great reputation built on the N1 and Droid/Droid 2. The crap Inspire hardware, and their continued lack of dev support for more devices than the Vivid really shows how they messed up.

You can piss off one or the other, but piss off both and you lose market share fast.

Just my opinion.

 

[TechGuy21]

Lack of removable storage is a downer for me, but I still love my One X.

 

[adamtalife]

A name alone can still be a strong influence though.

Especially since people switch from one brand to another just cause they didn't like one single phone under that brand.

The HTC One X was/is my first Android phone. After owning the iP3gs then to the iP4 for two years, I had no knowledge of android manufacturers, just impressions.

When it came time I was getting ready to make the switch, right off the bat my impressions were that Samsung makes the best Android devices, of course around the same time I was looking at GS3 the HoX has already been announced but I didn't care because for some strange reason I believed not only was HTC inferior to Samsung, but they made crap products.

Obviously I've done research and got the HoX. But point being, the name and the general perspective of that name means a lot to consumers. Especially uneducated consumers, like my former self.

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[Brian_d]

To those that say the non - removable battery is a non issue, just wait a year when the battery doesn't hold a charge as long. 16 hours now, but just wait... Thin phones are not sexy when they need to be tethered to the wall! HTC is notorious for putting too small a battery in their phones. This is reason enough that I don't favor the one X. Add in the storage issues & that silly camera lense that sticks way the hell out, just begging to be scratched or broken... Pass.
Don't get me wrong - I'm still using my old incredible (probably the only person now), loved it from the get go, except for the under-capacity battery issue (I'm on my 3rd battery btw). But I think HTC has dropped the ball & I really wish they'd pull their heads outta their azzes.

 

[NateBoii]

Why all the complaints about ppl not wanting a one x? Sound like overly sensitive females. As long as you like what you have, enjoy it, and stop crying cuz noone else wants it lmao! If they wanted it, they would get it, the same as you did. And talk about samsung use cheap plastic, when one x is using the exact same thing. Samsung must be doing something right, they are trumping htc in every way. Yall complaining about ppl not wanting the phone, flopping in sales and s3 is making a killing. You don't see s3 costumers making these threads. With a bunch of whiners mad that noone wants it. This is some funny stuff here, lmao...get over it, or get rid of it. Ppl like what they like so be happy.

 

[badbrad17]

Woah. A bit harsh on the reply. I'm not an HTC hater. I am only stating my opinion as to why I think many people are not buying HTC. I didn't say anything about storage. I find 16gb to be tons of space with Google Music. But the battery needs to be swappable. When I travel I don't have the option to power up. I will play games on a flight and i want to be able to carry an extra battery to make it through. Day to day users don't need this as much.