Thanks I'll check it out!Well, until a couple of minutes ago I would have argued that the earbuds have a DAC in them. There's nothing mystical about a DAC, and they can be extremely small. However, like all things, there are various degrees of quality for them. If HTC is blowing the wad on an amazing internal DAC, and then another amazing DAC in the dongle, and then another amazing DAC in the buds . . . see the problem? Sooner or later the odds of the next chip being amazing aren't very high for budgetary reason mainly.
However, discussing on this thread has caused me to read an avalanche of USB C stuff, and there is parts that support mfreeland's argument that one isn't required not because they magically don't have to convert, but because USB C apparently can transfer audio of some sort through it's non digital pins. I'm not going to claim I get it because I really don't as so far the only article I found was Android Central's excellent piece on it which I'll post after this reply since I now hit ten with this one.
Based on the article, there are some seeming drawbacks to using it this way, and perhaps that's why no one seems to be doing it. Either way, check out the article below. It's pretty thorough.
I'm torn. I realize that digital is the future. But I'm worried about the lack of choices in the USB-C headphones space. I'd rather not use a dongle. Also, I sit at my desk all day and listen to music while my phone is plugged into the charger. I know I could just charge the phone for a few minutes while I'm not listening to music, but it would definitely be an adjustment. Wireless charging would have been a nice addition. That would solve the headphones/charging dilemma.
I would be on board if really good USB-C headphones choices came out and/or people started making their own dongles with audiophile DACs built in.
I wouldn't say it's a non-issue.I have a 7+. It's absolutely a non issue. People who are all "no jack no buy!!" have never even experienced it.
You connect the dongle to your headphones. Keep it connected as if it's part of the headphones themselves. There, I solved the riddle. If you switch between 8 different pairs daily, then buy a different phone I guess.
I wouldn't say it's a non-issue.
People still don't like the move and after experiencing it with the Moto Z, I can see why.
I can't recall how many times I wanted to borrow my friend's headphones, and then remembering that I left the dongle connected to my usual pair, which usually lives at home.
There's also the issue of charging while using headphones. Apple already has that figured out, whether it's through a splitter, a dock or a case which has a headphone jack and charging port. On USB-C, we don't have those yet, at least none that actually work.
better sound quality. no battery.
Nothing beats cable and that Quad HIFI DAC amp of my LG V20 designed by B&O is the BOMB !!! Firering on all cylinders with Headsets > 50 Ohms
you all are only using toys
I just don't get it. Can someone please explain to me why it's such a big deal. The only negative I can see is the fact that you can't charge while using the earphones. I have never charged my phone while using the earphones but can see where others may want to do both. The benefits outweigh the negatives for me. From someone I trust who has had a test U11 for a while has said the sound through the included earphones is the best he has ever heard. He said the sound is better than the HTC 10 and the Samsung S8. In fact he said the there is no comparison between the U11 and the S8. They are noise cancelling earphones. It comes with an adapter for use with 3.5 earphones. I just don't get it.
Because it's incredibly stupid to have to carry around a dongle to use a 3.5mm jack. Those dongles get lost, forgotten, and are otherwise a PITA to use.
I don't understand why manufacturers have to get rid of 3.5mm jacks when the market isn't ready for their removal. And the mental gymnastics to justify this removal is astounding.
Some people don't have bluetooth for audio playback, or they have issues with bluetooth cutting in and out.
I understand that. What HTC did was give you drastically improved audio over USB C. The 3.5 jack has its limits. Just like the old CRT TV's had their limits. That's why we have the new wide screen HD TV's. For many it was a big inconvenience because wide screen TV's wouldn't fit in their TV cabinet or someplace else. But people adjusted because they wanted better quality. Well I want better audio and the only way to get it is with change. I welcome the change.
From records to reel to reel= change
From reel to reel to 8 track= change
From 8 track to cassette= change
From cassette to CD= change
From CDs to digital music= change
All for the better and all had an inconvenience attached to them. Inconveniences may have included buying an entire new album collection, new amps, new players, entire new sound system, cables and ADAPTERS.
This is part I not getting. One little adapter. Really. When people started buying HD TV's they had to buy component cables, HDMI cables and DVI cables at very expensive price. Some as much as$150. But I never heard anyone complain.
Now HTC gives you a better audio experience and gives you the adapter and people b***h. I just don't get.
If you would be so kind, would you please explain how the USB connection gives you better sound than a 3.5 audio jack? Secondly, since you are using an adaptor you still end up with 3.5 audio jack in the line... So if there limitations to a 3.5 jack then they would still exist.