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  1. James E1's Avatar
    I just don't get it. Can someone please explain to me why it's such a big deal. The only negative I can see is the fact that you can't charge while using the earphones. I have never charged my phone while using the earphones but can see where others may want to do both. The benefits outweigh the negatives for me. From someone I trust who has had a test U11 for a while has said the sound through the included earphones is the best he has ever heard. He said the sound is better than the HTC 10 and the Samsung S8. In fact he said the there is no comparison between the U11 and the S8. They are noise cancelling earphones. It comes with an adapter​ for use with 3.5 earphones. I just don't get it.
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    05-21-2017 03:55 PM
  2. Eggmundo's Avatar
    I don't get it either. Thanks for making this thread, because maybe these people can explain themselves now.
    05-21-2017 04:03 PM
  3. Bl00dRunzC0ld's Avatar
    For me, I have a decent pair of headphones that I like to use. If I lose the adapter then I have to pay for a new one. Also as you said, charging while using the adapter since some people use an aux cable in car while also charging. That now requires a dongle with two inputs.
    05-21-2017 04:26 PM
  4. Eggmundo's Avatar
    Use Bluetooth playback in the car.
    05-21-2017 04:32 PM
  5. Bl00dRunzC0ld's Avatar
    Use Bluetooth playback in the car.
    Some people don't have bluetooth for audio playback, or they have issues with bluetooth cutting in and out.
    05-21-2017 04:33 PM
  6. cert15z's Avatar
    There is no issue. It is all about personal preference. For me I use Bluetooth​ 90% of the time. No 3.5mm is just fine for me.
    05-21-2017 06:54 PM
  7. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    I listen to a lot of music, I have Bluetooth headphones but get annoyed at the batteries needing to charge and have 2 nice sets of wired headphones I prefer to use.

    My main form of music is AUX in my car, I don't have Bluetooth and from my experience pairing my phone to vehicles I've been in or driven that have it, it's an annoying hassle and doesn't work flawlessly.

    I also plug my phone into a set of computer speakers at home for music.

    Basically I use my head phone jack daily, every phone/tablet/computer I own has one. Why switch to wireless or deal with an adapter if I don't need to? Besides excluding Apple all the popular phones still have one.
    05-21-2017 06:55 PM
  8. James E1's Avatar
    I listen to a lot of music, I have Bluetooth headphones but get annoyed at the batteries needing to charge and have 2 nice sets of wired headphones I prefer to use.

    My main form of music is AUX in my car, I don't have Bluetooth and from my experience pairing my phone to vehicles I've been in or driven that have it, it's an annoying hassle and doesn't work flawlessly.

    I also plug my phone into a set of computer speakers at home for music.

    Basically I use my head phone jack daily, every phone/tablet/computer I own has one. Why switch to wireless or deal with an adapter if I don't need to? Besides excluding Apple all the popular phones still have one.
    What's so hard about using an adapter. I use both Bluetooth and wired. When I just want to view a short video or listen to a song or two I just grad a pair of Bluetooth earphones. If I am planning on listening to music or videos for an extended period of time I want to be wired. I just don't have a problem buying a couple of extra adapters. They are only $11.99 from HTC. Seems like a small price to pay for a better audio experience. For audiophiles like myself it makes zero sense to complain about better audio.
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    05-21-2017 07:08 PM
  9. ffejjj's Avatar
    What's so hard about using an adapter. I use both Bluetooth and wired. When I just want to view a short video or listen to a song or two I just grad a pair of Bluetooth earphones. If I am planning on listening to music or videos for an extended period of time I want to be wired. I just don't have a problem buying a couple of extra adapters. They are only $11.99 from HTC. Seems like a small price to pay for a better audio experience. For audiophiles like myself it makes zero sense to complain about better audio.
    You and a question he supplied an answer. As he stated it's his preference, he didn't say it was so hard.
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    05-21-2017 07:14 PM
  10. Morty2264's Avatar
    It comes with an adapter, so I'm sold. I don't listen to music while my phone is charging, however, so I don't really see this as a concern.
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    05-21-2017 07:24 PM
  11. James E1's Avatar
    You and a question he supplied an answer. As he stated it's his preference, he didn't say it was so hard.
    I understand that. What HTC did was give you drastically improved audio over USB C. The 3.5 jack has its limits. Just like the old CRT TV's had their limits. That's why we have the new wide screen HD TV's. For many it was a big inconvenience because wide screen TV's wouldn't fit in their TV cabinet or someplace else. But people adjusted because they wanted better quality. Well I want better audio and the only way to get it is with change. I welcome the change.

    From records to reel to reel= change
    From reel to reel to 8 track= change
    From 8 track to cassette= change
    From cassette to CD= change
    From CDs to digital music= change

    All for the better and all had an inconvenience attached to them. Inconveniences​ may have included buying an entire new album collection, new amps, new players, entire new sound system, cables and ADAPTERS.

    This is part I not getting. One little adapter. Really. When people started buying HD TV's they had to buy component cables, HDMI cables and DVI cables at very expensive price. Some as much as$150. But I never heard anyone complain.

    Now HTC gives you a better audio experience and gives you the adapter and people b***h. I just don't get.
    05-21-2017 08:16 PM
  12. digitalbreak's Avatar
    I switched to Bluetooth headphones and devices like 4 years ago. The lack of 3.5mm audio jack has not been a problem at all.

    I do know some of my friends who are audiophiles have preferences on the headphones, headsets. So, to them this is an issue. But then I ask them if they use it with their phones or recording devices and usually I get the latter. So, don't see any issue there as well.
    05-21-2017 09:37 PM
  13. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    What's so hard about using an adapter. I use both Bluetooth and wired. When I just want to view a short video or listen to a song or two I just grad a pair of Bluetooth earphones. If I am planning on listening to music or videos for an extended period of time I want to be wired. I just don't have a problem buying a couple of extra adapters. They are only $11.99 from HTC. Seems like a small price to pay for a better audio experience. For audiophiles like myself it makes zero sense to complain about better audio.
    It's not hard to use an adapter, but why use one if I don't need to? I'd rather not worry about carrying an adapter every where I go. It's about convenience, why make something harder and worry about something easy to lose?

    My mind will change in the future when I have more Bluetooth audio in my life, but right now if I want to connect to my car, my speakers at home, my good headphones, most of my friends cars, my friends speaker systems, I NEED a cord.
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    05-21-2017 10:03 PM
  14. James E1's Avatar
    It's not hard to use an adapter, but why use one if I don't need to? I'd rather not worry about carrying an adapter every where I go. It's about convenience, why make something harder and worry about something easy to lose?

    My mind will change in the future when I have more Bluetooth audio in my life, but right now if I want to connect to my car, my speakers at home, my good headphones, most of my friends cars, my friends speaker systems, I NEED a cord.
    Everyone​ does things differently. I don't use Bluetooth much because the audio quality is not the same as wired. I basically use wired earphones, headphones and even an 3.5 aux cable to my car and home sound system. So for me I would buy a couple of extra adapters 1. For the house 2. For the car and have an extra laying around for use with other headphones. But I will probably use the earphones that come with the U11 for awhile since they are so good until I find another set of headphones that will work with the U11. I simple want the best audio I can have and if that comes with a little inconvenience so be it. I completely understand not wanting to carry around an adapter that's why I would just buy extras. I suppose convenience must be higher on some people's list than quality but I will always choose quality over convenience. I'm strange that way I guess.
    05-21-2017 10:41 PM
  15. Eggmundo's Avatar
    Everyone​ does things differently. I don't use Bluetooth much because the audio quality is not the same as wired. I basically use wired earphones, headphones and even an 3.5 aux cable to my car and home sound system. So for me I would buy a couple of extra adapters 1. For the house 2. For the car and have an extra laying around for use with other headphones. But I will probably use the earphones that come with the U11 for awhile since they are so good until I find another set of headphones that will work with the U11. I simple want the best audio I can have and if that comes with a little inconvenience so be it. I completely understand not wanting to carry around an adapter that's why I would just buy extras. I suppose convenience must be higher on some people's list than quality but I will always choose quality over convenience. I'm strange that way I guess.
    Do any high quality headphones/ earphones not work with the U11? And I mean both USB-C ones and regular 3.5mm ones with the adapter.
    05-22-2017 03:48 AM
  16. BowtomePhil's Avatar
    Because people are set in their ways. We don't always like change. Myself, I am going to adapt to the new way of using headphones with usb-c and it also offers more than just headphones.

    Somethings I just dont adapt to, my dedodrant company changed the smell and said new improved, it made me feel sick the smell. So I no longer use them
    05-22-2017 03:51 AM
  17. Stevenmc8602's Avatar
    I think the issue is that it is still pretty different right now... Me personally I use the headphone jack a lot in my car and with the 1 pair of headphones I have... I would have to buy another adapter

    I think I will just leave them attached to my cords that way I won't have to worry about carrying them around
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    05-22-2017 11:33 AM
  18. James E1's Avatar
    I think the issue is that it is still pretty different right now... Me personally I use the headphone jack a lot in my car and with the 1 pair of headphones I have... I would have to buy another adapter

    I think I will just leave them attached to my cords that way I won't have to worry about carrying them around
    That's exactly what I would do.
    05-22-2017 11:39 AM
  19. cert15z's Avatar
    I think the issue is that it is still pretty different right now... Me personally I use the headphone jack a lot in my car and with the 1 pair of headphones I have... I would have to buy another adapter

    I think I will just leave them attached to my cords that way I won't have to worry about carrying them around
    This is what I use in my car to avoid cables.

    TaoTronics Bluetooth Receiver / Car Kit, Portable Wireless Audio Adapter 3.5 mm Stereo Output (Bluetooth 4.0, A2DP, Built-in Microphone) for Home Audio Music Streaming Sound System https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013QJ0W8Q...cUvbUpU5824311
    05-22-2017 01:38 PM
  20. mfreeland's Avatar
    So I've been looking into an adaptor that allows a 3.5mm audio jack and a USB-C charging port and I think this one may work...

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...cUvbUpU5824449
    05-22-2017 03:31 PM
  21. dov1978's Avatar
    It's no big deal. MOST people will have one pair of wired headphones they use the most so the logical thing to do is leave the adaptor conected to them so they go wherever the headphones do and don't get lost. People like to create a fuss saying they have to carry an extra piece of equipment separately when they don't. If you connect via 3.5mm jack to other devices then its no big deal to buy a few more adaptors and leave them connected to the other devices too
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    05-22-2017 04:05 PM
  22. TFBisquit's Avatar
    It's pretty simple actually. In the past there never was a 3,5 audio jack. So all of a sudden there was a phone with better audio over the speaker(s) and a 3,5" audio jack. You could plug-in any headphone set without adapters and enjoy even better quality of audio.
    Taking that away, and forcing people to use adapters so they can still enjoy music with their fav headphones, is at the least annoying.
    So that's what people have against it.
    The audio jack is convenient, just as a microSD slot is on a 128GB or even bigger device.
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    05-22-2017 04:37 PM
  23. James E1's Avatar
    It's pretty simple actually. In the past there never was a 3,5 audio jack. So all of a sudden there was a phone with better audio over the speaker(s) and a 3,5" audio jack. You could plug-in any headphone set without adapters and enjoy even better quality of audio.
    Taking that away, and forcing people to use adapters so they can still enjoy music with their fav headphones, is at the least annoying.
    So that's what people have against it.
    The audio jack is convenient, just as a microSD slot is on a 128GB or even bigger device.
    True, but now you're getting even better audio with noise cancelling headphones. Shouldn't everyone want better audio at a minor inconvenience.
    05-22-2017 05:12 PM
  24. Stevenmc8602's Avatar
    So I've been looking into an adaptor that allows a 3.5mm audio jack and a USB-C charging port and I think this one may work...

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...cUvbUpU5824616
    But if u use that you won't get the better sound from using the HTC adapter with the dedicated DAC
    05-22-2017 06:15 PM
  25. MrScotian's Avatar
    I just don't get it. Can someone please explain to me why it's such a big deal. The only negative I can see is the fact that you can't charge while using the earphones. I have never charged my phone while using the earphones but can see where others may want to do both. The benefits outweigh the negatives for me. From someone I trust who has had a test U11 for a while has said the sound through the included earphones is the best he has ever heard. He said the sound is better than the HTC 10 and the Samsung S8. In fact he said the there is no comparison between the U11 and the S8. They are noise cancelling earphones. It comes with an adapter​ for use with 3.5 earphones. I just don't get it.
    I don't see why I should have to manage another battery driven device just to hear sound. I have Bluetooth headphones that sound amazing and frankly I barely use them over the cheapie wired ones that sound sort of good. I plug them in, use them, de-plug them. I'm not an audiophile and don't care to be one. A 3.5 mm jack is useful for my needs and I will choose a phone that has one, for as long as they exist.
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    05-22-2017 06:16 PM
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