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  1. Stevenmc8602's Avatar
    Ok ppl enough is enough... Stop feeding into this guy... He's not even realizing he's sharing his opinion and others are sharing theirs, nothing is definitively the best
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    07-05-2017 05:52 PM
  2. mfreeland's Avatar
    Ok ppl enough is enough... Stop feeding into this guy... He's not even realizing he's sharing his opinion and others are sharing theirs, nothing is definitively the best
    Not sure. Does that guy kinda like the Samsung Galaxy S8?
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    07-05-2017 07:00 PM
  3. Stevenmc8602's Avatar
    Not sure. Does that guy kinda like the Samsung Galaxy S8?
    You mean the phone of the gods? 🤔
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    07-05-2017 07:58 PM
  4. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    AMOLEDs are definitely better looking than LCDs. Using an LCD trades AMOLED burn-in for annoying LCD light bleed. Samsung phones have the best displays of any phones. That's just a fact. Everyone agrees on that. If you like LCD, that's fine, but the U11's LCD isn't a better display by any means. AMOLEDs have perfect blacks, do Always On Displays right, and visual quality isn't diminished by viewing angles (especially when wearing polarized sunglasses).

    - Screen on times between the Galaxy S8 and HTC U11 are basically the same. Samsung phones drain battery faster in idle, but that doesn't matter to everyone.

    Everyone notices when a phone doesn't have a 3.5mm headphone jack. Not having one is a big omission. Headphone quality with the U11 is worse than the Galaxy S8. According to PocketNow, the U11 headphone audio has more noise, less dynamic range, and same amp power. The Galaxy S8 sounds better with headphones. Yeah, the HTC U11 has better external audio, but most people, including myself, don't care about dual speakers as long as the single speaker has reasonable volume. The IP rating does affect the speaker quality as well. The Galaxy S8 is better sealed up than the HTC U11 to earn the better water-resistance rating.



    It is more practical to have smaller bezels, not larger bezels. Having smaller or no bezels makes the phone size smaller, which means that big phones will fit better in your pocket. It is bizarre to me that you hold your phone by the bezels. I don't think I have ever held a phone by the bezels. Bezels are completely unnecessary. You don't need bezels to hold onto your phone comfortably with no issues. The design is outdated.


    Yes, the HTC UI is boring. It looks boring and lacks features. Yes, IP67 is fine. IP68 is better.


    Most of the Samsung features are NOT bloat and are not considered bloat. Is the ability to change your resolution and performance to increase battery life bloat? What about Knox security? Iris scanner? Samsung Pay? DeX? Wireless charging?

    Yeah, Samsung's curved display hurts its durability. So does the shape of the HTC U11's screen. Both are fine with a case.

    The Samsung battery thing was blown out of proportion. It was basically just one phone and Samsung changed the batteries so they can't explode anymore. I saw a video where someone actually cut into the battery on accident using a power tool and the battery didn't burn up.

    Samsung's UI isn't gaudy. It's classy and beautiful.

    Samsungs are the best overall phones. Android Central literally posted an article 2 days ago called "Best Android Phones of 2017" where they list the Galaxy S8 as "Best Overall" and they aren't the only one that thinks so. Oh and the Galaxy S8 recently won "Best Smartphone" at Mobile World Congress Shanghai and before that the Galaxy S7 Edge won for "Best Smartphone of 2016"
    https://www.androidcentral.com/best-...&utm_source=ac

    Samsung Galaxy S8 and S8+ Named 'Best Smartphone' at MWC Shanghai 2017
    No Amoled isn't better than LCD not at all, it's just hyperbole. It has some benefits that appeal to those who prefer it and buy into the bs most all fanboys, tech writers, and paid reviewers regurgitate.

    Let me ask you straight up before continuing.. Do you own a HTC u11?

    If you don't, then you have no idea which is the better. You can only go by what others are saying about it. You have 0 % first hand knowledge of the device's actual day to day performance. Therefore you really have nothing you can add to this conversation that is worthwhile. You don't have a frigging clue which is better or worse and you can regurgitate some others comments about the device.

    Sure your intitaled to your own opinion, but to needlessly bring your trolling on the htc forum is pathetic. I'll play your game with you.. But in all honesty you are going to loose.

    Do you even know what the bezels are on a smartphone? They are the sides of the phone. Bezeless means that you are holding on to the screen.. for people with normal hands and if you don't believe it.. Look it up. For true bezeless designs the screen will be sitting above the edge of the case. No its not a good idea to do this and with Samsung's idiotic screens put them at a serious disadvantage for breaking. This is a fact that is indisputable. Also what is a fact is without bezels software has to be included to stop false registers on the screen. Outdated my behind.. Practical and simpler yes..

    No Sense is not boring. It does everything better than TouchWiz so how can this be considered boring.. It isn't gaudy like TouchWiz and TouchWiz is gaudy.. Sense is not full of bloat.. and TouchWiz is packed to the gills with bloat and useless gimmicky features that most people disable or delete if they can. Even Pocket Now says as much.

    Let's talk audio.. Really you should check your facts more.. What model of u11 was Pocket Now reviewing? Did it have the latest version of software on it...? Nope and they had a bad 3.5mm adapter and stated as such didn't they.. I have done direct comparisons and know what my ears tell me, you haven't and won't because you only want to believe that Samsung is superior. BTW... Didn't you say that you primarily use Bluetooth headphones like most people... Lol

    Before you toot your own horn, check things out especially when you try to convince others..

    Did you read this review?

    HTC U11 Review: The "more and less" conventional flagship

    Read all of it and do not skip over his criticism of the s8 and then you can weep about it.

    Yes I agree about the 3.5mm jack being omitted but from the hundreds of people who have this phone including myself it's not a big deal, and as a owner of just about every Samsung galaxy phone put out I know for a fact that their audio is atrocious now and has always been due to their inability to get their software right which is true to everything they have done in Touch Wiz

    I can sit my u11 side by side with both s8's and see just how much better my u11 is any day of the week and this is a fact.. You can't so you don't know what you are talking about.

    What else do you plan on regurgitating here in the HTC forum..?

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    07-05-2017 08:11 PM
  5. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    Ok ppl enough is enough... Stop feeding into this guy... He's not even realizing he's sharing his opinion and others are sharing theirs, nothing is definitively the best
    The Galaxy phones are considered the best Android phones by most people. Some of what I have said is my opinion. Some of it is fact.
    07-05-2017 10:56 PM
  6. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    Not sure. Does that guy kinda like the Samsung Galaxy S8?
    I don't even want a Galaxy S8. I just recognize what they offer.
    07-05-2017 10:57 PM
  7. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    No Amoled isn't better than LCD not at all, it's just hyperbole. It has some benefits that appeal to those who prefer it and buy into the bs most all fanboys, tech writers, and paid reviewers regurgitate.

    Let me ask you straight up before continuing.. Do you own a HTC u11?

    If you don't, then you have no idea which is the better. You can only go by what others are saying about it. You have 0 % first hand knowledge of the device's actual day to day performance. Therefore you really have nothing you can add to this conversation that is worthwhile. You don't have a frigging clue which is better or worse and you can regurgitate some others comments about the device.

    Sure your intitaled to your own opinion, but to needlessly bring your trolling on the htc forum is pathetic. I'll play your game with you.. But in all honesty you are going to loose.

    Do you even know what the bezels are on a smartphone? They are the sides of the phone. Bezeless means that you are holding on to the screen.. for people with normal hands and if you don't believe it.. Look it up. For true bezeless designs the screen will be sitting above the edge of the case. No its not a good idea to do this and with Samsung's idiotic screens put them at a serious disadvantage for breaking. This is a fact that is indisputable. Also what is a fact is without bezels software has to be included to stop false registers on the screen. Outdated my behind.. Practical and simpler yes..

    No Sense is not boring. It does everything better than TouchWiz so how can this be considered boring.. It isn't gaudy like TouchWiz and TouchWiz is gaudy.. Sense is not full of bloat.. and TouchWiz is packed to the gills with bloat and useless gimmicky features that most people disable or delete if they can. Even Pocket Now says as much.

    Let's talk audio.. Really you should check your facts more.. What model of u11 was Pocket Now reviewing? Did it have the latest version of software on it...? Nope and they had a bad 3.5mm adapter and stated as such didn't they.. I have done direct comparisons and know what my ears tell me, you haven't and won't because you only want to believe that Samsung is superior. BTW... Didn't you say that you primarily use Bluetooth headphones like most people... Lol

    Before you toot your own horn, check things out especially when you try to convince others..

    Did you read this review?

    HTC U11 Review: The "more and less" conventional flagship

    Read all of it and do not skip over his criticism of the s8 and then you can weep about it.

    Yes I agree about the 3.5mm jack being omitted but from the hundreds of people who have this phone including myself it's not a big deal, and as a owner of just about every Samsung galaxy phone put out I know for a fact that their audio is atrocious now and has always been due to their inability to get their software right which is true to everything they have done in Touch Wiz

    I can sit my u11 side by side with both s8's and see just how much better my u11 is any day of the week and this is a fact.. You can't so you don't know what you are talking about.

    What else do you plan on regurgitating here in the HTC forum..?

    Mac
    AMOLEDs are better. They have much better viewing angles, aren't affected by polarized sunglasses, look brighter, have perfect blacks, and can do AOD properly. Apple and LG are going to AMOLEDs. Displaymate consistently rates Samsung AMOLEDs the best smartphone displays at release based on their objective testing.

    I don't have to own a phone to know about it. There are tons of reviews from tech sites, Youtubers, and forums like this one. I can read the experiences of others and learn from it. That's why these things exist.

    Yes, I know what bezels are. The HTC U11 bezels are too large. It makes the phone look outdated and boring. Reviewers have noticed this. Yes, curved displays hurt the durability of the screen, but the HTC U11 has durability issues with the shape of its screen as well. The Galaxy S8/S8+ and U11 are fine with a case on them. Having large bezels isn't more practical. It makes the phone excessively large, which is a bad thing.

    HTC Sense is boring and basic. Reviewers have mentioned this. The Galaxy S8/S8+ UI is not gaudy at all. It is very classy.
    http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/r...iew-051-UI.jpg

    https://s3.postimg.org/mputdlmv7/20170705_211258.jpg

    PocketNow tested the HTCU11 with the software they had at the time of review. Maybe HTC could have improved the audio with a patch. Maybe so did Samsung. Can you provide patch notes showing that HTC improved the internal audio? Your ears can be fooled. What can't be fooled are objective tests by computer systems. They showed that the U11 headphone audio was not as good as the S8 and the G6. I use Bluetooth for audio in my car and Audio Technica ATH-M50x headphones when I'm walking around.

    No, I hadn't read that review. They complain about several of the things I have mentioned -- "substantial" bezels, no 3.5mm jack, average battery life.

    Samsungs have not always had "atrocious" headphone audio. My Note 5 has excellent headphone audio. If you don't believe me, maybe you will believe these people.
    https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/ga...uality.778690/

    https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...mance-t3186790


    You can compare them side by side? Congratulations. So can Android Central and guess which phone won their choice for best smartphone? It wasn't the HTC U11. The Galaxy S8 is widely regarded as being better than the HTC U11. It has been chosen as the best phone for official and unofficial awards. The HTC U11 is a great phone, but it isn't better than the Galaxy S8/S8+. You can like the HTC U11 and prefer everything it offers over the S8/S8+ and still recognize the fact that the S8/S8+ is a better overall phone. If you don't think the S8/S8+ is the best phone, at least recognize you are in the vast minority with that opinion.
    07-06-2017 12:32 PM
  8. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    From all indications you don't have the u11 or maybe the s8's.. Atleast from your post, I could be wrong, but since I am asking how about answering.

    Do you own a HTC u11?

    Mac
    07-06-2017 01:06 PM
  9. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    AMOLEDs are better. They have much better viewing angles, aren't affected by polarized sunglasses, look brighter, have perfect blacks, and can do AOD properly. Apple and LG are going to AMOLEDs. Displaymate consistently rates Samsung AMOLEDs the best smartphone displays at release based on their objective testing.

    I don't have to own a phone to know about it. There are tons of reviews from tech sites, Youtubers, and forums like this one. I can read the experiences of others and learn from it. That's why these things exist.

    Yes, I know what bezels are. The HTC U11 bezels are too large. It makes the phone look outdated and boring. Reviewers have noticed this. Yes, curved displays hurt the durability of the screen, but the HTC U11 has durability issues with the shape of its screen as well. The Galaxy S8/S8+ and U11 are fine with a case on them. Having large bezels isn't more practical. It makes the phone excessively large, which is a bad thing.

    HTC Sense is boring and basic. Reviewers have mentioned this. The Galaxy S8/S8+ UI is not gaudy at all. It is very classy.
    http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/r...iew-051-UI.jpg

    https://s3.postimg.org/mputdlmv7/20170705_211258.jpg

    PocketNow tested the HTCU11 with the software they had at the time of review. Maybe HTC could have improved the audio with a patch. Maybe so did Samsung. Can you provide patch notes showing that HTC improved the internal audio? Your ears can be fooled. What can't be fooled are objective tests by computer systems. They showed that the U11 headphone audio was not as good as the S8 and the G6. I use Bluetooth for audio in my car and Audio Technica ATH-M50x headphones when I'm walking around.

    No, I hadn't read that review. They complain about several of the things I have mentioned -- "substantial" bezels, no 3.5mm jack, average battery life.

    Samsungs have not always had "atrocious" headphone audio. My Note 5 has excellent headphone audio. If you don't believe me, maybe you will believe these people.
    https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/ga...uality.778690/

    https://forum.xda-developers.com/not...mance-t3186790


    You can compare them side by side? Congratulations. So can Android Central and guess which phone won their choice for best smartphone? It wasn't the HTC U11. The Galaxy S8 is widely regarded as being better than the HTC U11. It has been chosen as the best phone for official and unofficial awards. The HTC U11 is a great phone, but it isn't better than the Galaxy S8/S8+. You can like the HTC U11 and prefer everything it offers over the S8/S8+ and still recognize the fact that the S8/S8+ is a better overall phone. If you don't think the S8/S8+ is the best phone, at least recognize you are in the vast minority with that opinion.
    For the record I have had all of the Notes from 2 up to the 5 several of them actually and passed on the 7 and all of the regular Galaxy series and even 2 of the Actives..

    I know all about how their audio is with them and stand firmly by what I have said about them. To make any of them sound as good as my u11 you have to resort to adding Viper.

    I've seen both links and also know that the note 5 had some serious issues with their audio. While early samples showed great results most of the mid to end of run did not,thus the need for v4a to be installed. On the s series only the exynos equipped phones are capable of doing OK. The Wolfson dac is decent enough but Samsung's codecs as I have said brings it down, not to mention the various carrier editions too that has multiple issues.

    HTC Sense is not boring and I don't give a rats behind what the obligated web sites tech writers or you claim. This is totally irrelevant because just as you or they think TouchWiz is beautiful, just as many others feel otherwise.. It's called personal preferences...Nothing more.. They have to say nice things, you on the other hand just regurgitate what others say...which carries no weight.

    Further I do not have to agree that the s8 is a a better phone, just the contrary because it isn't.

    The design flaws it has makes it impossible to use a quality temperd glass screen protector on it, it's screen design makes it more prone to breaking, it's aspect ratio makes the viewable screen smaller unless the manufacturers, developers and distributors recode just for its usage and just a few have in all the months it's been out, it's software isn't optomized and is slower, it's fingerprint scanner is a joke, and every single one of these phones is loaded with bloat that can't be removed. Why in the hell would I ever say that it is better than the u11...?

    You should really read that review..like I said to without just keying in on the negative things and listen to what he says.. You might learn something.. You might also read what Andrew said just recently

    https://m.androidcentral.com/top-5-t...&utm_source=ac

    Yes I know that every tech writer and audiophile is having a coniption fit about the headphone jack missing, but no one is understanding that the phone has already received a software update for the adapter and in all likelihood will continue to. It just keeps getting better all the time.. It will never be accepted because these people don't want to give up their already purchased headphones and will go out of their way to bash any new technology that will do this. Hopefully htc will use the extra pins in the new USB format and make it easier to use other headphones as well as utilizing the cord for a external antenna... That is the only con that I have against the phone but that's not a deal breaker for me anymore. FWIW there are many programs that you can run to test the audio on these phones damn few people can actually hear the differences they are seeing with them . I'm one of those who can and I am telling you straight up.. Side by side the u11 blows the US Samsung phones out of the water and still sounds better than all the rest of their phones . The external speakers everyone knows does this too and yes they do matter to millions of people worldwide.

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    07-06-2017 01:32 PM
  10. sydneycooper1979's Avatar
    Ladies and gentlemen, please keep discussion productive and on topic. Personal attacks, insults, taking threads off topic and other disruptive posting behaviors are not acceptable. If you do not like a post, please behave like an adult and move on, or if you feel it violates the forum rules, please report it. At no point should members be calling each other out in posts. Thanks.
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    07-07-2017 10:10 AM
  11. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Agreed

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    07-07-2017 10:30 AM
  12. terre08's Avatar
    I had an awful experience with Samsung when trying to buy the S8, unfortunately I didn't read the Samsung community complaints about the S8 with regards to cracked glasses etc. Samsung recommended people to contact Corning for the cracked glass issues, that's like if you buy a car that has defect brake pads and the car company would refer to the brake pad maker instead of fixing it. Nevertheless after reading all the stuff and after contacting Samsung directly they could not tell me when the phone would be shipped and after reading about people posting the same day I bought mine that they had not received the phone yet although some had ordered it as far back as 06/21/17 I decided to cancel it and also realizing that I would not get the 200 prepaid Visa card. They still have a debit hold on my checking account for 724.99 but once that is released I'll get the HTC U11 to cover me until the Pixel2 ships.. At last the ridiculous Samsung customer service said that it might still ship and I should call the delivery company (fedex, ups etc) and tell them I will refuse to receive it, what kind of customer service would say that?
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    07-07-2017 12:18 PM
  13. recDNA's Avatar
    Is Sprint supposed to have U11 yet in USA? I went to a Sprint corporate store to look at one and the cust serv reps never heard of it. Just Bolt.
    07-07-2017 12:21 PM
  14. James E1's Avatar
    Is Sprint supposed to have U11 yet in USA? I went to a Sprint corporate store to look at one and the cust serv reps never heard of it. Just Bolt.
    Yes Sprint is carrying the U11. I've been to 3 stores, 1 corporate, and all 3 had it in stock. I have my doubts that he has never heard of it. He is probably a fan of another brand.
    07-07-2017 12:45 PM
  15. recDNA's Avatar
    They wouldn't look 4 me. just wanted to sell a s8
    07-07-2017 12:46 PM
  16. James E1's Avatar
    They wouldn't look 4 me. just wanted to sell a s8
    That's what I figured!
    07-07-2017 12:48 PM
  17. Stevenmc8602's Avatar
    They wouldn't look 4 me. just wanted to sell a s8
    Lol the fact they didn't look and tried to push another phone tells u that there is probably an incentive on the phone they are trying to push on u... My homeboy used to work at ATT and he used to tell me that they would get incentives for selling certain phones through out the year
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    07-07-2017 01:13 PM
  18. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Lol the fact they didn't look and tried to push another phone tells u that there is probably an incentive on the phone they are trying to push on u... My homeboy used to work at ATT and he used to tell me that they would get incentives for selling certain phones through out the year
    Yup.. pretty much.

    You can go into any carrier store and they either push the Galaxy or the iPhone.

    Mac
    07-07-2017 01:48 PM
  19. Stevenmc8602's Avatar
    Yup.. pretty much.

    You can go into any carrier store and they either push the Galaxy or the iPhone.

    Mac
    It's not just those phones but it is them the majority of the time... Almost all the brands do it that the stores sell
    07-07-2017 04:14 PM
  20. TheMadChemist's Avatar
    It gets tiring hearing people rip on Samsung. The large majority aren't even close to objective estimations.

    I have been an HTC fan almost all my life, I've owned more HTC phones than most fanboys on here (5). I never liked the galaxy phones as I often thought they were loaded with some silly features. But the s8 is different, it's a completely different animal. The Super AMOLED 570ppi display (craziest aspect ratio I've ever seen) while being smaller than most phones by itself separates from the pack. Beveled sides makes it easy to use and looks gorgeous. This really isn't a small thing, you'll be looking at the screen and handling the phone 99% of your phones usage.

    The s8 has a fantastic camera and whether or not it's #1 or 3 I really don't see why it would matter to anyone but HTC and Pixel fans as that's really what you got.

    The HTC U11 is a great phone. Not a fan of the colours, lack of headset jack and plane build. Nothing really pops out in the hardware except for the camera and speakers. That's what HTC has. And the S8 has clearly (as indicated from this thread and countless videos) very similar camera quality.

    So.. Are you going to buy the phone based on its speakers? I know it's squeeze technology isn't worth the 700$ price tag. Let's be objective for a second. The U11 is a top three contender but the difference between second and first is massive.
    07-10-2017 06:01 PM
  21. James E1's Avatar
    It gets tiring hearing people rip on Samsung. The large majority aren't even close to objective estimations.

    I have been an HTC fan almost all my life, I've owned more HTC phones than most fanboys on here (5). I never liked the galaxy phones as I often thought they were loaded with some silly features. But the s8 is different, it's a completely different animal. The Super AMOLED 570ppi display (craziest aspect ratio I've ever seen) while being smaller than most phones by itself separates from the pack. Beveled sides makes it easy to use and looks gorgeous. This really isn't a small thing, you'll be looking at the screen and handling the phone 99% of your phones usage.

    The s8 has a fantastic camera and whether or not it's #1 or 3 I really don't see why it would matter to anyone but HTC and Pixel fans as that's really what you got.

    The HTC U11 is a great phone. Not a fan of the colours, lack of headset jack and plane build. Nothing really pops out in the hardware except for the camera and speakers. That's what HTC has. And the S8 has clearly (as indicated from this thread and countless videos) very similar camera quality.

    So.. Are you going to buy the phone based on its speakers? I know it's squeeze technology isn't worth the 700$ price tag. Let's be objective for a second. The U11 is a top three contender but the difference between second and first is massive.
    I bought it because it has the best camera. I bought it because it has the squeeze feature. I bought it because it has the best LCD screen I have ever seen. I bought it because it has great audio. I bought it because it doesn't have curved edges. I bought it because it has 16:9 aspect ratio. I bought it because I think it looks beautiful. I bought it because it one of the fastest phones out there. I bought it because it has great battery life. I bought it because it's not full of bloat like other phones. I bought it because it doesn't lag. I BOUGHT IT BECAUSE IT NOT A SAMSUNG.
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  22. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    It gets tiring hearing people rip on Samsung. The large majority aren't even close to objective estimations.

    I have been an HTC fan almost all my life, I've owned more HTC phones than most fanboys on here (5). I never liked the galaxy phones as I often thought they were loaded with some silly features. But the s8 is different, it's a completely different animal. The Super AMOLED 570ppi display (craziest aspect ratio I've ever seen) while being smaller than most phones by itself separates from the pack. Beveled sides makes it easy to use and looks gorgeous. This really isn't a small thing, you'll be looking at the screen and handling the phone 99% of your phones usage.

    The s8 has a fantastic camera and whether or not it's #1 or 3 I really don't see why it would matter to anyone but HTC and Pixel fans as that's really what you got.

    The HTC U11 is a great phone. Not a fan of the colours, lack of headset jack and plane build. Nothing really pops out in the hardware except for the camera and speakers. That's what HTC has. And the S8 has clearly (as indicated from this thread and countless videos) very similar camera quality.

    So.. Are you going to buy the phone based on its speakers? I know it's squeeze technology isn't worth the 700$ price tag. Let's be objective for a second. The U11 is a top three contender but the difference between second and first is massive.
    The build quality is perfect, the speakers and sound quality are excellent, the squeezable sides are totally unique and work great and my screen is the best LCD I have ever owned. It has a very miniscule amount of light bleed and it's blacks are exceptional..

    I'm a huge fan of the colors, lack of bloat, super fast optimized os and a miriad of other things that makes my phone stand out.

    Did I buy the phone for it's speakers.. Technically yes along with all of the other things this phone has and can do..

    Should anyone else care.. That depends because I know a bunch of people who have the Samsung phones and they all are totally impressed with my u11.. It stands out in a crowd and you can hear it above most other phones...

    What matters is if you are happy with what you got, if not get something you do. It took me a long time to to finally find a phone that I truly love.. My wish is that everybody else can find their's regardless of who makes it.

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    07-10-2017 07:24 PM
  23. FutureMech's Avatar
    Would take u11 over s8 anyday, to me s8 has no amazing features, curved screen is annoying, way too small and tall, overpriced and battery is just ok...
    As i have the mate 9, none of those phone is really an upgrade even downgrade i would say, but u11 over s8 anyday, the sound quality, flat screen, stereo speakers, way faster than s8 and 5.5 is the sweet spot, no useless gimmicks like fail Bixby
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    07-11-2017 06:39 AM
  24. TheMadChemist's Avatar
    I think you're being disingenuous. If you really think the U11 is a great phone, that's awesome. It is. But to say that Samsung doesn't have any stand out features, well..I think you lose credibility.

    The U11 has nowhere near the screen quality of the S8. You have more screen pixels packed into a smaller phone. Show me a phone that's closer to 600ppi than the s8. You talk about the mate 9? That has a dismal 370ppi for a fairly wide phone.. The majority of the S8s phone is a screen, we haven't seen anything like this on the phone market. Beveled super AMOLED 570ppi that covers the entire phone. A longer skinny phone makes sense in the hand. I can hit every part of the phone with one hand, can't do that with the U11. Something tells me that U11s design is going to change for next year's model and HTC fans are going to divert their attention to something else to rip the S8 on.

    Bixby is a great app, I use it all the time. The voice is not yet ready but I expect big things when it is, same as I expect at least better things with Edge Sense.

    I have an Audio Technica m50x headset. If I bought the U11 it would be junk. Utterly stupid move by HTC on this part and honestly much worse than a button on the side for a developing assistant app.

    The U11 is not way faster, it's about 1/10 second faster. But hey man if you like your U11 that's great, HTC is a great company. But there is a reason that in a lot of articles about these phones, S8 is used as the comparison benchmark. And no, it really isn't because of lemmings.

    Honestly though, it is a material item. Who cares. Buy what fits your wallet and lifestyle.
    07-12-2017 04:02 AM
  25. Habiib's Avatar
    I think you're being disingenuous. If you really think the U11 is a great phone, that's awesome. It is. But to say that Samsung doesn't have any stand out features, well..I think you lose credibility.

    The U11 has nowhere near the screen quality of the S8. You have more screen pixels packed into a smaller phone. Show me a phone that's closer to 600ppi than the s8. You talk about the mate 9? That has a dismal 370ppi for a fairly wide phone.. The majority of the S8s phone is a screen, we haven't seen anything like this on the phone market. Beveled super AMOLED 570ppi that covers the entire phone. A longer skinny phone makes sense in the hand. I can hit every part of the phone with one hand, can't do that with the U11. Something tells me that U11s design is going to change for next year's model and HTC fans are going to divert their attention to something else to rip the S8 on.

    Bixby is a great app, I use it all the time. The voice is not yet ready but I expect big things when it is, same as I expect at least better things with Edge Sense.

    I have an Audio Technica m50x headset. If I bought the U11 it would be junk. Utterly stupid move by HTC on this part and honestly much worse than a button on the side for a developing assistant app.

    The U11 is not way faster, it's about 1/10 second faster. But hey man if you like your U11 that's great, HTC is a great company. But there is a reason that in a lot of articles about these phones, S8 is used as the comparison benchmark. And no, it really isn't because of lemmings.

    Honestly though, it is a material item. Who cares. Buy what fits your wallet and lifestyle.
    Display quality superiority of the S8 was never in question and was acknowledged from the beginning. Why did you even bring that up?

    Also to bring up ppi when the number is over ~400 is completely useless. The difference cannot be discerned outside of usage behind a VR headset. Also a 'longer" + "skinny" phone does not make one-handed use easier, as you are now dealing with a taller handset especially when the 18:9 ratio is implemented, which not everyone can find reaching all areas with ease.

    Also
    Show me a phone that's closer to 600ppi than the s8
    S8 - 571ppi
    Xperia Z5 premium - 806 ppi

    I've showed you a phone the exceeds your demand, now what?

    Aaannddd
    The majority of the S8s phone is a screen, we haven't seen anything like this on the phone market.
    You are wrong because the Xiaomi Mi Mix had minimal bezels and was released in 2016. Also, the Sharp Aquos Crystal pioneered the design and they were released in 2014 (and before you bring up its chin, the total area taken up looks to be about the same as the combined area of the top and bottom bezels of the S8/8+). Also Sharp has taken it to the next level and gone completely bezel free for their upcoming smartphone.

    Lastly the topic was about camera prowess between the two, so I'm at a loss about your diatribe.
    James E1 and Hyperspace13 like this.
    07-12-2017 09:12 AM
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