07-07-2018 09:08 AM
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  1. nick3young's Avatar
    Hi all.

    I've just recently upgraded to the P20 Pro from my Galaxy S7 Edge.

    Overall I'm loving the phone. The camera truly is top quality.

    However I'm undecided whether I prefer the 'look' of the photos when compared with my S7 photos.

    With both phones on standard settings, the photos on the S7 seem warmer, more vibrant and slightly brighter. The P20 Pro photos feel a little... dare I say... dull. Perhaps a bit too accurate?!

    My fiancee also says the same. She described the photos as a little 'dark'.

    Does anyone feel the same? I can muck with the settings a little (e.g. enable the 'pro' mode and add more warmth) but I'd rather not be having to do this all the time.

    There is an option on standard to change the colour to 'smooth' or 'vivid' but I feel this results in quite a weird, dark look.

    I'd be interested to hear other people's opinions...
    04-10-2018 03:55 PM
  2. orangecroc's Avatar
    The photos are accurate to real life, better that so you can edit them to look different than have them wrong and have to edit them to be normal.
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    04-10-2018 04:41 PM
  3. nick3young's Avatar
    Yeah I get that. And it makes sense.

    But I'm not a professional. I don't really want to be mucking around in lightroom or tweaking settings after every photo. I just want to whip my phone out and take a snap. And I appreciate it is personal preference.

    I was just curious to see if other people who have owned both phones feel the same as me?

    I'd also be curious to know of any 'tweaks' which can be made to make the P20 camera permanently take warmer and more vibrant photos...
    04-10-2018 05:30 PM
  4. Aneres11's Avatar
    If you look at the photos on a PC, then you'll likely find there will be a huge difference.
    Samsung screens are often touted as the best on the market, but I find them to be a neon mess most of the time. Your screen is probably making the photos seem much more vibrant than the photos actually are when viewed on another device.
    04-10-2018 05:35 PM
  5. dov1978's Avatar
    I get what you mean. I'm using the Mate 10 Pro just now, Note 8 before that and the colours look a bit bland in comparison with a lot of scenes. If my photos need a quick boost of colour I just open it in Google Photos hit 'Auto' in the editor. It usually gives really good results. If I'm wanting to really get the best out of a photo I'll use Snapseed as I find HDR setting really pulls out details when needed.

    It's not a permanent setting like you're looking for but it's probably as good as you'll get without using a third party camera app
    04-10-2018 05:38 PM
  6. dov1978's Avatar
    If you look at the photos on a PC, then you'll likely find there will be a huge difference.
    Samsung screens are often touted as the best on the market, but I find them to be a neon mess most of the time. Your screen is probably making the photos seem much more vibrant than the photos actually are when viewed on another device.
    Spot on. Editing photos on my Galaxy phones was difficult because of the saturated display. You think you've edited a photo to where you want it, post it online then when you see it on another screen it looked way off.
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    04-10-2018 05:40 PM
  7. orangecroc's Avatar
    There's also an icon above the photo window that let's you select more vivid colours.
    04-10-2018 06:27 PM
  8. nick3young's Avatar
    There's also an icon above the photo window that let's you select more vivid colours.[/url]
    Yep. I mentioned in my original post that I think the 'smooth' and 'vivid' settings make the photo just look a little weird. Do you not think the same?

    I'll post some photos on here tonight and see what people think.
    04-11-2018 08:57 AM
  9. orangecroc's Avatar
    Yep. I mentioned in my original post that I think the 'smooth' and 'vivid' settings make the photo just look a little weird. Do you not think the same?

    I'll post some photos on here tonight and see what people think.
    I'll be honest, I haven't tried them as I prefer natural looking photos.
    04-11-2018 08:59 AM
  10. orangecroc's Avatar
    Yeah, vivid and smooth seem to crush the blacks and shadow detail.
    04-11-2018 09:05 AM
  11. dov1978's Avatar
    The Vivid and Smooth filters are there to give you the 'Leica Look'. It's their signature style kinda thing and are supposed to make the photos look more dramatic. I don't use them because of the shadow you mention. There's definitely a Vignette style going on there but I'd prefer it if they just did what they said and give more punchy colours when required.
    04-11-2018 09:24 AM
  12. nick3young's Avatar
    Ok... I've taken some photos to help try and make my point. All S7 photos are on the left. Both phones kept on standard 'out of the box' settings (so S7 are slightly larger at 12mp compared the P20 Pro's 10mp). Also forgive me for the rather unimaginative photos!!

    Camera vs S7. S8 and S9-can.jpg

    I 'think' I prefer the bright red on the coke can and the slightly warmer feel about the lamp in the background on the S7 photo.
    04-11-2018 12:55 PM
  13. nick3young's Avatar
    Camera vs S7. S8 and S9-owl.jpg

    I reckon that the owl looks sharper on the P20 photo here but again, I prefer the warmth and colour that I am getting from the S7 photo...
    04-11-2018 12:57 PM
  14. nick3young's Avatar
    Camera vs S7. S8 and S9-room.jpg

    World's most boring photo alert! I call it... 'sat on my sofa'! But even with a photo as boring as this, I feel a bit more vibrancy and warmth coming from the S7 photo....
    04-11-2018 12:59 PM
  15. nick3young's Avatar
    Camera vs S7. S8 and S9-garden.jpg

    ... and I've saved the most interesting one until the end. On this one... the P20's 'green mode' filter kicked in which is clearly apparent. This is the only one where colour and vibrancy wins on the P20. But does the garden look a little odd with this automatic filter kicking in?
    04-11-2018 01:00 PM
  16. Aneres11's Avatar
    The P20 photos are clearly much sharper and more detailed than the Samsung ones posted. If you zoom in on the living room shot for instance, and look at the gold circular plate on the table, the S7 loses all the punched hole detail of the bowl.
    The P20 retains it all.

    Same with the fur on the owl. The garden shot is the biggest quality difference. The S7 shot is pretty awful.
    04-11-2018 02:57 PM
  17. orangecroc's Avatar
    The reason the S7 photos are warmer, is because the P20 has a better auto white balance. The AI over saturation for greenery is abhorrent to me, but I have a feeling if you had turned it off, the P20 shot would still have been better.
    04-11-2018 03:30 PM
  18. Fred98TJ's Avatar
    The P20 photos are clearly much sharper and more detailed than the Samsung ones posted. If you zoom in on the living room shot for instance, and look at the gold circular plate on the table, the S7 loses all the punched hole detail of the bowl.
    The P20 retains it all.

    Same with the fur on the owl. The garden shot is the biggest quality difference. The S7 shot is pretty awful.
    Actually the P20 shot of the garden is horrid (neither are particularly good). Too cartoon and garish and it’s all blocked up. The S7 shot clearly has better dynamic range. It isn’t particularly blocked up

    In the first two photos (with the Coke can), which is the better representation of the color of the table? The P20 has it cyanish or pinkish. Also what kind of bulb (tungsten, CFL, led etc) is in the lamp?
    04-11-2018 07:49 PM
  19. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    As an S7 owner I prefer what the P20 is doing, Samsung has always had too warm of a color tone for me, which forces me to shoot in pro mode.
    04-11-2018 08:54 PM
  20. Fred98TJ's Avatar
    Here’s the S7 garden shot.
    The P20 is almost beyond any reasonable repair.
    Attached Thumbnails Camera vs S7. S8 and S9-6ad414c9-cda9-47e3-a701-949774934024.jpeg  
    04-11-2018 09:18 PM
  21. inffy's Avatar
    The thing here is that as good as the AI seems to be on the P20 Pro camera there are the Greenery and Blue Sky modes that I personally HATE.

    Both bump up the greens and the blues so much that every shot with a nice skyview becomes this sea of bright blue. What I tend to do is always dismiss these two automatic modes when I do photography.

    In the other hand the Food mode actually does nice photos (for a scenario that you like to post food photos to social media).
    04-12-2018 04:34 AM
  22. orangecroc's Avatar
    The thing here is that as good as the AI seems to be on the P20 Pro camera there are the Greenery and Blue Sky modes that I personally HATE.

    Both bump up the greens and the blues so much that every shot with a nice skyview becomes this sea of bright blue. What I tend to do is always dismiss these two automatic modes when I do photography.

    In the other hand the Food mode actually does nice photos (for a scenario that you like to post food photos to social media).
    Totally agree, the AI seems to be good with the greenery and blue sky ones being the exception.
    04-12-2018 05:10 AM
  23. LossOfCite's Avatar
    The Vivid and Smooth filters are there to give you the 'Leica Look'. It's their signature style kinda thing and are supposed to make the photos look more dramatic. I don't use them because of the shadow you mention. There's definitely a Vignette style going on there but I'd prefer it if they just did what they said and give more punchy colours when required.
    I could be mistaken, but I believe the classic Leica style has a slightly under-saturated look. I thought Huawei added "smooth" and "vivid" for those that want punchier social media shots.
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    04-12-2018 06:43 AM
  24. dov1978's Avatar
    I could be mistaken, but I believe the classic Leica style has a slightly under-saturated look. I thought Huawei added "smooth" and "vivid" for those that want punchier social media shots.
    Yeah you're probably right.
    04-12-2018 06:48 AM
  25. nick3young's Avatar
    I'm excited to experiment with some of the other AI modes... so far I've only seen 'greenery', 'text', 'food', 'cat' (not sure what this one does to the image!) and 'document scan'.

    I took another photo of a house plant and 'greenery' mode kicked in. Unlike the garden shot... I actually quite like this image overall (colours etc - I know the actual photo is awful!).

    I'm going to try and get out this weekend and get a few decent shots. I suspect (hope) Huawei will continue to tweak and refine their AI filters as we move through the coming months...

    Camera vs S7. S8 and S9-img_20180411_215527.jpg
    04-12-2018 08:40 AM
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