11-03-2017 09:05 PM
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  1. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    For all the Apple fans who have been gracious enough to come in and advise us that we should never accept or even consider buying a phone at a price as high as $849 having a screen that tints blue at an angle....

    Forbes review of iPhone X: "I have to say, though, the color changes notably when you angle the phone away from you. A bluish tinge is strongly evident. "
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    11-01-2017 09:40 AM
  2. vzwuser76's Avatar
    For all the Apple fans who have been gracious enough to come in and advise us that we should never accept or even consider buying a phone at a price as high as $849 having a screen that tints blue at an angle....

    Forbes review of iPhone X: "I have to say, though, the color changes notably when you angle the phone away from you. A bluish tinge is strongly evident. "
    I seriously don't get how people see this as a new phenomenon. Most reviews I've read on past phones had a section in the display part of the review talking about viewing angles and any color shift they experienced.
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    11-01-2017 09:49 AM
  3. Chex313's Avatar
    Welcome to oled😋

    I still use a 2012 MacBook air the screen is so bad it's blinding me...just wish it would die so I could get a Chromebook...

    These phone screens are beautiful in comparison.
    11-01-2017 09:59 AM
  4. dsignori's Avatar
    Oh good. ANOTHER screen thread ..

    It's the AMOUNT of tint that people point to folks, and I think everyone knows it. It differs from unit to unit on the 2 XLs so what one person sees may not be the same as the others. Mine tints A LOT. It's fine from straight on, so I don't mind it, but lets not conflate normal OLED off axis viewing with the AMOUNT of tinting that SOME of the 2 XLs are seeing (not all, pitchforks down). /end rant
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    11-01-2017 10:09 AM
  5. nelamvr6's Avatar
    Oh no! Not the iPhone X! What will become of us?
    11-01-2017 10:15 AM
  6. Jeremiah Bonds's Avatar
    11-01-2017 10:17 AM
  7. osubeavs728's Avatar
    Oh good. ANOTHER screen thread ..

    It's the AMOUNT of tint that people point to folks, and I think everyone knows it. It differs from unit to unit on the 2 XLs so what one person sees may not be the same as the others. Mine tints A LOT. It's fine from straight on, so I don't mind it, but lets not conflate normal OLED off axis viewing with the AMOUNT of tinting that SOME of the 2 XLs are seeing (not all, pitchforks down). /end rant
    IDK if you read the OP or not but.....this thread is about the iPhone X....
    11-01-2017 10:38 AM
  8. CHILLYWILL_95831's Avatar
    I seriously don't get how people see this as a new phenomenon. Most reviews I've read on past phones had a section in the display part of the review talking about viewing angles and any color shift they experienced.
    This is an Android fan issue regarding color shifting with OLEDs. Haha the author of the article even stated that the shift in color results from such a razor sharp panel at 438ppi. Doesn't the Pixel²XL have 538ppi? But iPhone fans will swear that the screen isn't great unless it shifts color while cheap Android fans will swear you should have 2030 technology in a 2017 phone mostly because Android fans are cheap. I kinda wish the Pixel²XL would have Sapphire glass on their camera lens just so they could charge 1000.00 like the iPhone and keep the cheap skates away from the phone. LMAO!

    This damn phone is nearly perfect TBH. I'm not gonna even give commentary on the blue shift because I think the issue is a stupid non issue... Are the colors muted or accurate? IMHO, they're spot on. So much more to say about this device, but I think I'm going to stop eating time writing in chat rooms and enjoy this slice of Heaven in my hand... Haha!
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    11-01-2017 10:41 AM
  9. Chex313's Avatar
    This is an Android fan issue regarding color shifting with OLEDs. Haha the author of the article even stated that the shift in color results from such a razor sharp panel at 438ppi. Doesn't the Pixel²XL have 538ppi? But iPhone fans will swear that the screen isn't great unless it shifts color while cheap Android fans will swear you should have 2030 technology in a 2017 phone mostly because Android fans are cheap. I kinda wish the Pixel²XL would have Sapphire glass on their camera lens just so they could charge 1000.00 like the iPhone and keep the cheap skates away from the phone. LMAO!
    They did charge $1000..you needed to get the 128 GB...😃
    11-01-2017 10:44 AM
  10. dsignori's Avatar
    IDK if you read the OP or not but.....this thread is about the iPhone X....
    I did. Conflating the small tinting issues of the iPhone X with the much more pronounced issues on the 2 XL. I read it.
    11-01-2017 10:44 AM
  11. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    Oh good. ANOTHER screen thread ..

    It's the AMOUNT of tint that people point to folks, and I think everyone knows it. It differs from unit to unit on the 2 XLs so what one person sees may not be the same as the others. Mine tints A LOT. It's fine from straight on, so I don't mind it, but lets not conflate normal OLED off axis viewing with the AMOUNT of tinting that SOME of the 2 XLs are seeing (not all, pitchforks down). /end rant
    You missed the point of my original post. Per the Forbes reviewer, the iPhone X tints a lot too. But maybe his is just representative of 'some' of the iPhone X's... But let's wait and see how many are willing to hold Apple to task on that aspect of their screen.

    This thread was not a rant - it was to mock the people who rant and feel it necessary to use a bunch of capitalized words to emphasize how much of a travesty it is - sorry if you are offended by this.

    People seemed to want to find something to hate about Google's offerings right off the bat so jumped all over blue shift despite the fact that color shift is an inherent characteristic (to varying degrees) on all OLED panels, even though it isn't an issue for 99% of the people, who tend to actually look at their phones essentially head-on (yourself included).

    If I were any kind of artist I'd draw a satirical cartoon of a guy sitting at a coffee shot reading his phone, holding it at a 30% sideways angle, muttering to himself "I hate the blue tint on this phone..." and then the person sitting next to him looks over and responds "doesn't look like there's any at all from where I'm sitting."
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    11-01-2017 10:52 AM
  12. osubeavs728's Avatar
    I did. Conflating the small tinting issues of the iPhone X with the much more pronounced issues on the 2 XL. I read it.
    Well how many iPhone Xs have you seen? Speculation speculation. Either way, your post was off topic of the thread was the point.
    11-01-2017 10:57 AM
  13. dsignori's Avatar
    Well how many iPhone Xs have you seen? Speculation speculation. Either way, your post was off topic of the thread was the point.
    There's about 50 hands-on videos on YoutTube ,but go ahead, I understand the point. It's a "See, they all have the same 'problem' " thread. My point is it's easy to say, but it's just not ture without some kind of qualification .

    Anyway, have at it I guess.
    11-01-2017 11:10 AM
  14. dsignori's Avatar
    This thread was not a rant - it was to mock the people who rant and feel it necessary to use a bunch of capitalized words to emphasize how much of a travesty it is - sorry if you are offended by this

    I'm not offended. It's just a little silly to conflate the 2 XL tinting (and dismiss it as you seem to be), with minor tinting on most OLEDs, including the iPhone X. In any case, no worries. It's a good thread for folks who don't care about such distinctions to say HA! SEE ? THEM TOO!

    If I were any kind of artist I'd draw a satirical cartoon of a guy sitting at a coffee shot reading his phone, holding it at a 30% sideways angle, muttering to himself "I hate the blue tint on this phone..." and then the person sitting next to him looks over and responds "doesn't look like there's any at all from where I'm sitting.
    Ha! Very true. That does sum it up ..
    11-01-2017 11:12 AM
  15. CHILLYWILL_95831's Avatar
    They did charge $1000..you needed to get the 128 GB...😃
    Oh yes, well it's 949 right? Close enough. Cheapskates be gone!
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    11-01-2017 11:26 AM
  16. dty06's Avatar
    But let's wait and see how many are willing to hold Apple to task on that aspect of their screen.
    Honestly, it won't be many. Apple is a fierce company, and they tend not to send review units to reviewers that point out issues or say anything negative. If you don't gush over it, you risk your review unit next year.

    Just one of many, many, many reasons I have a strong dislike for Apple as a company.
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    11-01-2017 11:36 AM
  17. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    I'm not offended. It's just a little silly to conflate the 2 XL tinting (and dismiss it as you seem to be), with minor tinting on most OLEDs, including the iPhone X. In any case, no worries. It's a good thread for folks who don't care about such distinctions to say HA! SEE ? THEM TOO!
    The reviewer at Forbes specifically pointed out that while it is a typical characteristic on OLED devices, "it’s more noticeable here."

    One thing we both agreed on, it is an overblown issue for actual real-world use...
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    11-01-2017 11:59 AM
  18. DoctorOctagon's Avatar
    I'm enjoying a non blue shifting OLED phone as I type this. There is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with OLED. The Pixel 2 XL however looks pretty bad (the two phones I have seen)
    11-01-2017 12:14 PM
  19. DoctorOctagon's Avatar
    The reviewer at Forbes specifically pointed out that while it is a typical characteristic on OLED devices, "it’s more noticeable here."

    One thing we both agreed on, it is an overblown issue for actual real-world use...
    Not overblown to me since it caused me to not buy the phone after seeing two in person.
    11-01-2017 12:15 PM
  20. dpham00's Avatar
    Esteemed iMore writer and Editor in Chief Rene Ritchie said that he didn't want to quibble with the blue shift on the iPhone X, but the blue shift on the Pixel 2 XL bothers him so much. Interesting.

    PSA: "Bluegate" is contagious (iPhone X)-uploadfromtaptalk1509556796716.jpgPSA: "Bluegate" is contagious (iPhone X)-uploadfromtaptalk1509556803089.jpg
    11-01-2017 12:20 PM
  21. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Not overblown to me since it caused me to not buy the phone after seeing two in person.
    That's OK....we are all free to make choices
    11-01-2017 12:20 PM
  22. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    Not overblown to me since it caused me to not buy the phone after seeing two in person.
    Absolutely fair. It would indeed affect you if you made it your norm to look at the screen at an angle you might hold the phone if you were trying to show it to the person next to you.

    For me, that 'once in a blue moon' (pun intended) that it might be observable to me, and the essentially cosmetic issue it would present, are something I'm very willing to accept to avoid what I perceive as completely functional deficits for all of the alternative flagship offerings.
    11-01-2017 01:39 PM
  23. vzwuser76's Avatar
    Oh good. ANOTHER screen thread ..

    It's the AMOUNT of tint that people point to folks, and I think everyone knows it. It differs from unit to unit on the 2 XLs so what one person sees may not be the same as the others. Mine tints A LOT. It's fine from straight on, so I don't mind it, but lets not conflate normal OLED off axis viewing with the AMOUNT of tinting that SOME of the 2 XLs are seeing (not all, pitchforks down). /end rant
    Sorry, I guess that this post didn't include what I've said in similar posts in other threads, that I haven't seen a 2 XL in person, so I can't say if it's worse or not. But of the ones I currently have, 5 AMOLED screened phones total, all of them have it, and some are worse than others. You yourself said, it differs from unit to until, yet you seem to be mad if anyone says they don't see it as an issue. Maybe they have one that doesn't have the issue, or they're not as bothered by it.

    But I guess from now on, everyone needs to be outraged anytime a certain percentage of the userbase has issues, whether it affects their specific devices or not. Otherwise we're just triggered defenders.

    And btw, I don't even have a 2 XL, I have the regular 2. My point is everyone's losing their freaking minds over this. Is it not under warranty? It's not like you're in the hook to pay for repairs. And I'd bet if you raised enough of a stick about it, you could return it. So why the need to rail about it and nauseum? I'd imagine a lot of 2 XL's returned will send a louder message than posts on a forum. So rather than rant about it, return it, find something else to fit your needs, and be done with it.
    11-01-2017 01:48 PM
  24. Jeremy8000's Avatar
    I'm enjoying a non blue shifting OLED phone as I type this. There is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with OLED. The Pixel 2 XL however looks pretty bad (the two phones I have seen)
    That's certainly possible. Other phones shift to a different part of the spectrum, such as yellow or green... or the red tint that plagued Samsung S8's not only badly when viewed at an angle, but still visibly when viewed head on.

    Funny how the press blow-up wasn't as severe for a company that spends tons more on advertising, and again how people accepted that Samsung would be able to 'fix' the issue with software (even though off-axis shift made it more noticeable) but refused to even consider the possibility that Google could address it in the same manner.
    11-01-2017 01:49 PM
  25. vzwuser76's Avatar
    I'm not offended. It's just a little silly to conflate the 2 XL tinting (and dismiss it as you seem to be), with minor tinting on most OLEDs, including the iPhone X. In any case, no worries. It's a good thread for folks who don't care about such distinctions to say HA! SEE ? THEM TOO!



    Ha! Very true. That does sum it up ..
    You said in your first post in this thread that the amount of color shift differential from unit to unit, so not every device is as bad as the other. Perhaps the same thing happens with the X. With so few of them out, it's hard to say right now with any certainty, so to say they don't have the issue is a bit premature.

    I don't think saying, "see they have the problem too" is any worse than saying "brand (x) doesn't have this issue". If you can contrast, shouldn't others be able to compare?
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    11-01-2017 01:57 PM
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