04-06-2016 03:03 PM
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  1. CellTheUltimateAndroid's Avatar
    It's true. I get around 30 min less screen on time, and I've had it for around a month.
    Also what's up with that 6% on battery usage?
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    03-06-2016 02:30 AM
  2. RapidTurtle's Avatar
    I also had battery issues. I wound up doing a FDR and that fixed the issue. I know it's a pain to do, but it did work for me.
    03-06-2016 07:33 AM
  3. LeoRex's Avatar
    Yeah, when it doubt, reset. On major point upgrades, that's usually par for the course. There's a lot of backend crap that gets updated and sometimes your app data hides a little nugget that doesn't play well when in the new framework.

    I pushed my wife's 811 up to 6.0 last week and the thing has been running like a champ actually. Idle has improved by leaps and bounds (her phone sits a lot), active seems as good, maybe a tick better. And the phone runs a lot better than it had at 5.1. It's smoother, less stuttering and fewer frame drops. And the touch response has noticeably improved.
    03-07-2016 10:35 AM
  4. tardus's Avatar
    I may have to bite the bullet and do a factory reset which is kind of pain. The only thing that has helped was to turn data off. Fine if Wi-fi is available, but not a complete solution.
    03-07-2016 10:36 AM
  5. LeoRex's Avatar
    Oh, if you've been on 6.0 long enough for the google backup to run, it's not quite as painful when you restore. 6.0 has a lot of new backup APIs... You can see which apps you have bought into the new system by going into the Google Drive app settings and looking at the app backup window. For those apps, it'll restore both the app AND the app data.
    03-07-2016 12:35 PM
  6. tardus's Avatar
    Oh, if you've been on 6.0 long enough for the google backup to run, it's not quite as painful when you restore. 6.0 has a lot of new backup APIs... You can see which apps you have bought into the new system by going into the Google Drive app settings and looking at the app backup window. For those apps, it'll restore both the app AND the app data.
    I just did the factory reset, and I noticed the differences that you mentioned when I booted for the first time after reset. Now I'm doing a restore using LG Backup & Restore. I've had great success with that in the past - with G3. I just hope it won't restore the "bad" stuff that may have caused the poor battery problem.
    03-07-2016 01:09 PM
  7. LeoRex's Avatar
    Well... a lot of time, that bad data is buried in the runtime junk.... which hopefully will have been refreshed when the apps get reloaded.
    03-07-2016 02:59 PM
  8. Bonovox72's Avatar
    This bad data is not really what I think is happening. I had a black leather LG G4 sim free UK from Amazon & it had Android 6.0 out the box. The phone was made 11 days ago & the battery was absolutely awful on Marshmallow & this was out the box not updated from Lollipop. Something called LOGD was draining the battery
    03-07-2016 03:39 PM
  9. LeoRex's Avatar
    logd? Something was writing like crazy to the system logs then.. Probably getting festooned with exception errors from an app that was writhing in pain.
    03-07-2016 05:58 PM
  10. tardus's Avatar
    logd? Something was writing like crazy to the system logs then.. Probably getting festooned with exception errors from an app that was writhing in pain.
    According to XDA LOGD is apparently a primary cause of the battery issues with Marshmallow. There's no way to get rid of it unless the phone is rooted.

    Let's hope for an update soon to get rid of that bug.
    03-08-2016 09:43 AM
  11. Brayden Turner's Avatar
    It is a G4. The reason I bought mine and made it my daily driver is due to the ability to switch the batteries out. I have 3 batteries for my phone with chargers that charge the batteries over night. Put the batteries in the car before you leave for work and you are set. Extra batteries are incredibly useful and allow me to leave my screen brrightness at 75% all the time.
    03-08-2016 10:47 AM
  12. benchph's Avatar
    I had a g4 who just got a boot loop and got a replacement refurbished g4.

    My old one ran android 6.0 and had horrible battery life. I am currently running on v10f-sea-xxx. The last incremental update for lollipop before getting marshmallow.

    i will stay in lollipop for about a year or until i hear from this forum that MM has solved the battery issue.
    03-08-2016 05:47 PM
  13. tardus's Avatar
    It is a G4. The reason I bought mine and made it my daily driver is due to the ability to switch the batteries out. I have 3 batteries for my phone with chargers that charge the batteries over night. Put the batteries in the car before you leave for work and you are set. Extra batteries are incredibly useful and allow me to leave my screen brrightness at 75% all the time.
    I got the extra "free" battery since purchased the G4 when it came out. I rarely used the spare until Marshmallow came out. Now I'm swapping batteries just about every day. This is even after resetting the phone.
    03-09-2016 09:52 AM
  14. tardus's Avatar
    I just did the factory reset, and I noticed the differences that you mentioned when I booted for the first time after reset. Now I'm doing a restore using LG Backup & Restore. I've had great success with that in the past - with G3. I just hope it won't restore the "bad" stuff that may have caused the poor battery problem.
    Update: It's been a few days after the factory reset and performance is somewhat improved but not close to where it was with Lollipop. The factory reset was painless - so not much downside. This is what I did:

    1. Used LG Backup and Restore to save the backup to the sd card. I also saved a copy to my PC...just in case.
    2. System settings->Backup and reset->Factory data reset
    3. When rebooted I let Android do it's thing to restore. (the first time I stopped it in the middle and skipped to the next step but the results were not good so I did it a second time, and let it finish. The Marshmallow restore is improved!)
    4.Opened LG Backup & restore and let it find the available saved backups. I chose the latest one to restore.

    Everything was close to 100% back to how it was before reset. Some text messages - conversations from prior years were out of order - a handful appear on top.

    The only annoying thing - the default sms app changed the setting back to "Delete old messages" - lucky I caught it and no messages were deleted.
    Smart cards are appearing occasionally for some reason, although turned off in settings.
    03-09-2016 10:03 AM
  15. kraze4u's Avatar
    To improve battery life you can limit apps running in the background to 4 in the developer options. Its worked well for me on lollipop.
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    03-09-2016 12:42 PM
  16. TNCattleDog's Avatar
    Battery life on my Verizon G4 with MM has been gradually improving almost daily. Batter life for me is now better than it was on lollipop.

    David
    03-09-2016 06:11 PM
  17. tardus's Avatar
    Battery life on my Verizon G4 with MM has been gradually improving almost daily. Batter life for me is now better than it was on lollipop.

    David
    I found the same thing. Factory reset and restore using LG Backup made a significant difference, and now the battery life continues to improve. Still not what it was on Lollipop but getting much better!

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    03-10-2016 11:06 AM
  18. Catalin Esanu's Avatar
    For the last two days this process is on top of the list. It has no label. What can it be?

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    03-10-2016 01:03 PM
  19. Catalin Esanu's Avatar
    It's been two days since this process appeard, but it has no label. What can it be ?

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    03-10-2016 01:10 PM
  20. tardus's Avatar
    For the last two days this process is on top of the list. It has no label. What can it be?

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    Is Android OS or Android system listed below (lower down than can be seen)? My guess is Android OS which should be greater than 5%.
    But why it isn't labeled is the question. Is your G4 rooted by any chance?
    03-10-2016 01:13 PM
  21. Catalin Esanu's Avatar
    Sorry for posting twice. I tried to put two images, but it uploads only one. No, it's not rooted. H815T unlocked, running MM.

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    03-10-2016 01:14 PM
  22. missmotta's Avatar
    I'm glad I'm not the only one With Marshmallow battery woes!!
    I updated my T-Mobile G4 a couple weeks ago and all was fine! I felt lucky that I didn't have to do a factory reset.
    That is, until I noticed my phone getting hot, and strange things hogging the battery like android OS. Then it would be cell standby, followed by google, then the T-Mobile app decided to start sucking up 40%! It was all so strange and seemingly arbitrary. So, I backed everything up to my SD card, made sure my settings in Nova launcher were saved, did the dreaded factory reset and all was fine.... For about two Days.
    Sigh... So then I read and read and researched and realized that if I toggle off ALL auto background sync ,including google, then my phone is totally fine. There's something that's working overtime when I enable google to have all its various things updating in the background. Even when I tried to turn all of them off that could be turned of with the auto sync set to ON, this problem persists.
    So, I'm stuck with a phone that I have to manually check for emails, but at least I can still use it. I plan to check the apps daily in the play store to see which ones I want to update, trying to keep The bloatware from T-Mobile and other google apps that I rarely use off of my phone. Also, I don't have facebook installed. That would not be very helpful at this point.
    Anyone else have to turn off their auto sync altogether???

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    03-10-2016 03:01 PM
  23. Bruce39's Avatar
    Now I have good battery life, am retired & a lot of time on my hands. Most (or all) of my issues were caused by the incorrect permissions. In some cases permissions not allowed (why? no clue but after fixing is OK) or allowed when I did not want. example - first day gps on 100% & using battery, deleted all location permissions for all apps. Problem solved; have since added location (1 app at a time) to apps I want. If you don't know - can go to app manager, click on app, click on permissions & change; also can go to app manages click on settings (3 dots on top right) configure apps, app permissions - shows all permissions, can then edit. You can also "disable" most bloat (removes from phone including app drawer - never to return) I have seen several apps that "disable" is grayed out & not allowed; I assume they were important system apps. You have to be VERY VERY careful when changing permissions or disabling apps. It is possible to really screw up your phone.
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    03-10-2016 05:06 PM
  24. LeoRex's Avatar
    My wife's is about two weeks in now, and I'm getting a better idea.... from the looks of things, the battery life has improved overall, but that improvement is really build on the foundation of better idle usage. The phone sits a lot, so it kicks into Doze a fair amount. And with that, the amount of power consumed at idle frees up that power for active usage. In terms of active usage, there doesn't really seem to be any real improvements on that side of things.... I'm obsessive when it comes to power usage, so I am in there checking all the phones constantly.... and once that screen is on, it's consuming juice at a clip that is pretty much identical to LP.

    I'm a little bit disappointed in this... for a slightly different reason... Yes, a more efficient phone would be nice, but the fact that there isn't really any improvement, or at least an improvement that is noticeable in day to day use, leads me to believe that LG has already kind of cast aside the G4 into 'maintenance'. They are just updating some stuff, keeping binaries up to date, etc... but the actual active development in the kernel amounts to doing a 'make all' and calling it a day.

    And that points to a more overall complaint with OEMs... once the new model comes out, the previous generation becomes old news... and phones have advanced to the point where things are plateauing, so now people are most likely going to be holding on to those phones longer. So asking if a phone will still be actively updated over a year out of launch will be important. This is one of the many reasons why I kind of stick to Nexus for my personal phone... while a phone is still officially supported, Google maintains active development. The Nexus 5 has near all the software bells and whistles that my 6P does (short of a few things specific to the 6P, of course). The now-ancient Nexus 4, released in 2012, received its final security update in October (version 5.1.1 by the way).... 4 years after launch.

    Rant over..
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    03-11-2016 08:37 AM
  25. revelations65's Avatar
    I am not impressed with Marsh I can say honestly say there has been at least a 20% reduction in battery life, and what is more maddening is in the inept software, LG Bridge, coming from Blackberry this software is horrendous, trying to backup the phone continues to try to back up to the phone while the backup path set to the PC,
    I want to wipe the phone, see if that improves the batter, I have since purchased a secondary battery, what is even sadder, my wife's Microsoft 640 gets better battery life
    I feel Marsh could be the worse update an update is suppose to improve a phone, but in this case it has made things worse

    They need to sort this out
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    03-13-2016 04:30 AM
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