01-24-2011 08:29 PM
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  1. cordell's Avatar
    So I know many of us went with this phone because it is the best 3G phone out there right now (for sprint). The 3G saved us from paying the $10 tax that Evo and 4G phones are subject to. Well looks like ALL "new smartphone activations" will be paying this TAX!



    Sprint Newsroom | Mobile Data Information Center
    01-18-2011 09:02 AM
  2. cmags's Avatar
    So does that mean going forward, they're removing the 5GB softcap, which is what the $10 charge on the 4G devices was supposedly for? (Of course I'd rather keep my 5GB softcap and my $10 cheaper plan for the next two years. Hope I don't need to change anything...)
    01-18-2011 09:17 AM
  3. darktoy's Avatar
    We are all grandfathered into our plans with out the $10 fee, it will be added to those that upgrade or start a new contract after Jan 30.

    I am wondering if I don't renew my contract and in the future just purchase a phone at regular cost if the charge will be added since I won't be upgrading plan or phone with any discounts.

    Hmmmmm?
    01-18-2011 09:19 AM
  4. cordell's Avatar
    So does that mean going forward, they're removing the 5GB softcap, which is what the $10 charge on the 4G devices was supposedly for?
    The $10 charge is for access to clearwire's WIMAX/4G. Clearwire charges sprint like $5 for every Evo type 4G phone. Sprint makes $5, I am pretty sure clearwire charges per phone, regardless if the coverage is available for the user or not. This is why those who have a 4G phone but dont live in 4G area have to pay the $10.

    Looks like if you upgrade your phone through sprint you after Jan 30 you will be subject to the charge. Now since we have our phones already we escape the charge, but by the time a upgrade rolls around for most of us again I have a feeling 3G will be no more. I bought my Optimus outright, saving my upgrade (march 2011) for the new dual core phone. Right now, at least for sprint it's vaporware though LOL

    So even if you buy a phone outright 2 years from now it will be a 4G phone and the tax will still need to be paid for access... this is opinion based, on where I think sprint is heading with 4G plans/coverage
    01-18-2011 09:21 AM
  5. cmags's Avatar
    So basically what we're looking at here is to either upgrade now (or in the next 12 days), or stay stuck with the Optimus and current plan until you bite the bullet and pay up the $10/month for something new. I'm cool with the Optimus - plenty powerful for me. The Evo Shift is tempting but maybe after they come down and are cheap "old tech" and I need to upgrade anyway.
    01-18-2011 09:28 AM
  6. kolepard's Avatar
    Sprint just lost a lot of its price advantage over its competitors. With my family's 4 lines, that's $40/month. When our contract is up, it'll be time to look hard at the alternatives.

    I'm a bit annoyed, too, that I specifically avoided a 4G phone (no 4G in my area and likely won't be for many years as it's a small market) and now we'll get shafted anyway. Of course, we're grandfathered in for now, but that won't last, and I'll definitely be exploring alternatives soon.
    01-18-2011 09:32 AM
  7. mike9670's Avatar
    I coulda stayed with AT&T since I'd have to shell out $30 more for three lines...........
    01-18-2011 09:41 AM
  8. shortyjacobs's Avatar
    I am wondering if I don't renew my contract and in the future just purchase a phone at regular cost if the charge will be added since I won't be upgrading plan or phone with any discounts.
    From Sprint's site:
    "Existing Sprint smartphone customers are not affected unless they upgrade to or activate another smartphone."

    Also, this sucks bigtime.
    01-18-2011 10:19 AM
  9. RUSH's Avatar
    Overall.. Sprint remains the carrier with the best plan. Check out the screenshot below.


    01-18-2011 10:31 AM
  10. shortyjacobs's Avatar
    Overall.. Sprint remains the carrier with the best plan. Check out the screenshot below.

    Except that screenshot is BS, as it compares unlimited talk plans with sprint's 450 min talk plan. Really, this is what counts:



    Still, Sprint is cheapest, (in a tie with T-mobile), more or less...but what scares me is that they list data and texts as "unlimited on the sprint network"....is that another change? My current plan has unlimited data and texts, period, doesn't matter if I'm roaming or not...

    Edit, also, Sprint's *actual* unlimited plan is $99.99, which is $109.99 with the premium add on, which is MORE expensive than TMo.
    01-18-2011 10:39 AM
  11. cmags's Avatar
    Sprint just lost a lot of its price advantage over its competitors. With my family's 4 lines, that's $40/month. When our contract is up, it'll be time to look hard at the alternatives.
    It seems that Sprint still has quite an advantage over the other big providers for family plans:

    Sprint: 1500 min, unlimited text/data = $130 + $20 * 2 for extra lines + $10 * 4 for smartphone surcharge = $210

    Verizon: 1500 min, unlimited text = $120 + $10 * 2 for extra lines + $30 * 4 for unlimited data = $260

    AT&T: 1400 min = $90 + $10 * 2 for extra lines + $30 for unlimited text + $25 * 4 for 2GB data = $240
    01-18-2011 11:01 AM
  12. outdors21's Avatar
    This is disgusting. Sprint now has no excuse for offering such a pathetic line of smartphones compared to all of the other carriers.

    And I love how they say the $10 surcharge is exempt from any discounts. Just disgusting.
    01-18-2011 11:08 AM
  13. trekkie1701c's Avatar
    Glad that I upgraded when I did. My Centro finally bit the dust yesterday (or rather, my last battery stopped holding a charge and the Centro will not run without a battery, even when on the charger), then this today.

    I, for one, will not be affected by the change most likely; provided I don't break my phone I'm not likely to upgrade until I get the upgrade discount again. Sure, two years seems like a long time and there's a feeling of doubt that I'll have the same phone after two years... but felt the same way with my Centro (which I had for two years) my current job (Two years), etc. Even when I do upgrade, I don't think I'm ever roaming (my phone is set to notify me when I'm roaming and I've never had a notification; but then again, I never leave the Dallas/Fort Worth Area), and I'm not likely to go with the higher end plans (I use almost no talk time each month, and very few texts).

    Still, not entirely happy that Sprint is jacking up the rates. If they're still the cheapest when I upgrade, I might consider staying with them when I hit that point. The internet is too important in my life (not in the "I can't live without social networks" way, but the "I actually do work online and need to be easy to contact by international people" way), so I can't really drop the data plan entirely.

    Did fire off an email to Sprint though asking about the new language in their rate plans for data/messaging. Hopefully will get some clarification on that :P
    01-18-2011 11:11 AM
  14. JPD's Avatar
    One big advantage with Sprint is the Any Mobile Anytime... I have 4 lines and we only use approximately 200 minutes of calling that can be charged to our monthly allotment of 1500 minutes...
    01-18-2011 11:17 AM
  15. s33ker's Avatar
    Sorry guys it's all my fault.



    And BTW there is no 5GB softcap on Sprint. It's the last carrier to offer truly unlimited data.
    01-18-2011 11:34 AM
  16. mike9670's Avatar
    Sorry guys it's all my fault.



    And BTW there is no 5GB softcap on Sprint. It's the last carrier to offer truly unlimited data.
    01-18-2011 11:40 AM
  17. outdors21's Avatar
    Sorry guys it's all my fault.



    And BTW there is no 5GB softcap on Sprint. It's the last carrier to offer truly unlimited data.
    I don't even grasp how you guys use that much data! I am on mine constantly...and I use 400-700 MBs. That's crazy!!
    01-18-2011 11:50 AM
  18. cmags's Avatar
    I think the wording in the contract indicates not a hard 5GB limit (hence the term "softcap"), but that Sprint reserves the right to throttle or terminate service if the customer regularly goes over the 5GB mark. It seems that Sprint doesn't normally exercise this right, but I do believe it's in there either way.
    01-18-2011 11:51 AM
  19. s33ker's Avatar
    I think the wording in the contract indicates not a hard 5GB limit (hence the term "softcap"), but that Sprint reserves the right to throttle or terminate service if the customer regularly goes over the 5GB mark. It seems that Sprint doesn't normally exercise this right, but I do believe it's in there either way.
    Negative. There is no 5GB anything in the fine print. The rhetoric used is something along the lines of if you used too much data while roaming, you can have your data roaming privileges revoked until the next billing cycle.
    01-18-2011 12:02 PM
  20. hamagc's Avatar
    Interesting

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    01-18-2011 12:35 PM
  21. simon.ponder's Avatar
    One big advantage with Sprint is the Any Mobile Anytime... I have 4 lines and we only use approximately 200 minutes of calling that can be charged to our monthly allotment of 1500 minutes...
    Same here, I have five phones, sharing the 1500 everything data plan. We rarely rack up anything over 750 minutes per month, total. I still receive 25% foundation plan, so we end up right around $201 a month for five phones, unlimited everything except for minutes.
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    01-18-2011 12:44 PM
  22. cmags's Avatar
    Negative. There is no 5GB anything in the fine print. The rhetoric used is something along the lines of if you used too much data while roaming, you can have your data roaming privileges revoked until the next billing cycle.
    Ah, that makes more sense. Cool thanks for setting that straight. I've had the plan now for only a month and a half, but only used ~330 MB last month and only up to 40MB this month (about 1/4 the way thru)... Don't think I'l have to worry about it either way. ;-)
    01-18-2011 02:12 PM
  23. kristi's Avatar
    So here we are again not happy with sprint. So fine its the same monthly as T-Mobile and still cheaper than Verizon so now they better come out with some super fly phones or there is no point. I got this phone to avoid the 4g cost I now have 5 days left to try and come up with a couple hundred$ plus an hour drive to try and switch this phone foe the who shift. The question is should I do it. The second line on my phone is upgraded in 2 months and the sprint Guy I talked to said that will put both the phones on the premium rate so its save 20$ or take the optimus for a year and save the money for a 4g phone up front. Hmmmmm what to do
    01-18-2011 03:24 PM
  24. benjajm's Avatar
    I called Sprint and complained and said I was going to drop there service and not pay then a dime, after all that they decided to give me a $10 monthly credit for 24 months to get me to stay. I took it for now, lol, plus with the free airvana at $99 and $4.95 a month and with my evo rooted I get the WiFi tendering for free saving $30 for a total of $45 savings a month, I can't complain now. Have 1500 share plan with evo and opt s
    01-18-2011 05:59 PM
  25. trekkie1701c's Avatar
    Thank you for contacting Sprint regarding new price plans.

    The new plans includes free America Roaming. If you use your phone out
    of Sprint Coverage, your account is not billed for the roaming charges.

    There is a usage limit of data and voice on roaming network:

    (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes
    (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes

    While on roaming network, text messages are not free. There is a
    default charge of $0.20/msg while on roaming network.

    You can view all available plans being offered by visiting the below
    hyperlink:

    Sprint - Define Region

    We value your business and appreciate the opportunity to answer your
    questions. Please reply to this email or visit sprint.com if we can be
    of assistance.

    Sincerely,
    Jack Z.
    Sprint
    I assume that means that data/voice will be cut off (so that you're not billed, and since he didn't list additional charges) if you exceed those limits. Don't like the text message cost though

    EDIT: Roommate brought up a good point, they may be doing this in preparation for their big announcement everyone was going on about last week D:
    01-18-2011 08:08 PM
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