1. datum9's Avatar
    So tired of Samsung S8+, of the stupid 18.5:9 ratio, curved screen that needs a special curved glass protector, no battery replacement abilities... tiny default battery that needs an external ZeroLemon power brick that makes the phone huge... etc. Oh and the icing on the cake is S8 is very slippery, like a flat piece of ice.

    LG V20 prices have gotten very reasonable, I see new ones for $200 on your fav auction all the time.

    Too bad V30 is a copy of Samsung S8+, they copied all the bad ideas. What a disappointment. Same ratio, same curved edge, unbelievable.

    V20 has everything I need. No stupid glass back. Dual cams. Nice.
    $200 gets you a new or LNIB one, versus $999 for Note 8 or 9 when it comes out.

    I only got my S8+ for a Black Friday deal that was half-price, about $460 a year ago and it's not even worth that to be honest.

    Unless they come up with all these features I want, I will stay with V20 forever. You will be able to buy new ones old stock for the next 5 years. Until ZeroLemon stops making batteries for it. Then it's an issue.
    07-25-2018 10:55 AM
  2. Itsa_Me_Mario's Avatar
    Sounds like a plan! Only advice I have for the V20 is to use the manual controls for the camera to the best of your ability.
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    07-25-2018 11:22 AM
  3. recDNA's Avatar
    So tired of Samsung S8+, of the stupid 18.5:9 ratio, curved screen that needs a special curved glass protector, no battery replacement abilities... tiny default battery that needs an external ZeroLemon power brick that makes the phone huge... etc. Oh and the icing on the cake is S8 is very slippery, like a flat piece of ice.

    LG V20 prices have gotten very reasonable, I see new ones for $200 on your fav auction all the time.

    Too bad V30 is a copy of Samsung S8+, they copied all the bad ideas. What a disappointment. Same ratio, same curved edge, unbelievable.

    V20 has everything I need. No stupid glass back. Dual cams. Nice.
    $200 gets you a new or LNIB one, versus $999 for Note 8 or 9 when it comes out.

    I only got my S8+ for a Black Friday deal that was half-price, about $460 a year ago and it's not even worth that to be honest.

    Unless they come up with all these features I want, I will stay with V20 forever. You will be able to buy new ones old stock for the next 5 years. Until ZeroLemon stops making batteries for it. Then it's an issue.
    I agree 100% I just wish it were still possible to purchase truly new ones.
    07-25-2018 12:44 PM
  4. PAC757's Avatar
    I agree, just bought a 2nd one for a work phone because they started giving us iPhone SE's. 1, I do not like iPhones at all, 2, I'm getting to old to use a 4" screen all day. I have my AT&T V20 for my personal phone and now a Verizon V20 for my work phone, they are hung up on Verizon for cell service at work. I have 4 LG batteries and 2 LG spare battery chargers. That should last me the next 18 months or so. Enough people have complained about issuing us iPhones first off, then to buy the cheapest smallest screen iPhone on top of that. Our communications manager got the hint but our corporate agreement is new phones every 18 months.
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    07-25-2018 01:23 PM
  5. datum9's Avatar
    You can buy perfectly new phones today, at steep discounts. They are a full generation behind, which is good.

    The deals are out there and getting better every day. When Note 9 gets released or V40 or such, this can only drive the prices down. LG V30 and Samsung S8/Note 8 are clones of each other, with minor implementation differences. Thus a huge disappointment.

    Its not like new-old-stock V20 has gotten worse over the years, it's a proven design.

    I got a new Note 4 for $100. I realize it's several generations behind but it's a fine device. Not as fine as V20 however. I like V10/V20 screen better than Samsung.

    16:9 screen ratio is ideal IMO. No reason to change what works, nor do I get the purpose of it.
    If you see a NIB V20 for a great price, buy it and use it later. Or just wait a year. They are not going anywhere.
    07-25-2018 02:59 PM
  6. flyingkytez's Avatar
    So tired of Samsung S8+, of the stupid 18.5:9 ratio, curved screen that needs a special curved glass protector, no battery replacement abilities... tiny default battery that needs an external ZeroLemon power brick that makes the phone huge... etc. Oh and the icing on the cake is S8 is very slippery, like a flat piece of ice.

    LG V20 prices have gotten very reasonable, I see new ones for $200 on your fav auction all the time.

    Too bad V30 is a copy of Samsung S8+, they copied all the bad ideas. What a disappointment. Same ratio, same curved edge, unbelievable.

    V20 has everything I need. No stupid glass back. Dual cams. Nice.
    $200 gets you a new or LNIB one, versus $999 for Note 8 or 9 when it comes out.

    I only got my S8+ for a Black Friday deal that was half-price, about $460 a year ago and it's not even worth that to be honest.

    Unless they come up with all these features I want, I will stay with V20 forever. You will be able to buy new ones old stock for the next 5 years. Until ZeroLemon stops making batteries for it. Then it's an issue.
    I bought a Samsung S8+ and regretted it, sold it and bought a V20 AGAIN. Hate the awkward shape of the S8+ and Note 8... Wayyy too long and curved.. it hurts my thumb to drag down the notification bar... And plus can't install a tempered glass screen protector, so annoying! The V20 works good and I enjoy the front and rear wide angle cameras, it comes in handy... Plus the Quad DAC and removable battery means I don't need to worry about dead or weak batteries, I can use the phone for many years to come. Plus, it's not made from glass so it's not as fragile.
    07-26-2018 12:08 AM
  7. Itsa_Me_Mario's Avatar
    Yeah the edge display is something I haven't been able to get used to and it's keeping me away from Samsung phones. The other thing is they're inconsistent support for Android security features or security updates for system updates.
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    07-26-2018 08:10 AM
  8. Mike Dee's Avatar
    You can buy perfectly new phones today, at steep discounts. They are a full generation behind, which is good.

    The deals are out there and getting better every day. When Note 9 gets released or V40 or such, this can only drive the prices down. LG V30 and Samsung S8/Note 8 are clones of each other, with minor implementation differences. Thus a huge disappointment.

    Its not like new-old-stock V20 has gotten worse over the years, it's a proven design.

    I got a new Note 4 for $100. I realize it's several generations behind but it's a fine device. Not as fine as V20 however. I like V10/V20 screen better than Samsung.

    16:9 screen ratio is ideal IMO. No reason to change what works, nor do I get the purpose of it.
    If you see a NIB V20 for a great price, buy it and use it later. Or just wait a year. They are not going anywhere.
    Are you sure there are new ones around?
    07-26-2018 09:57 PM
  9. datum9's Avatar
    New in the sense of not used "new". Not "new" in the sense of made a month ago.

    The newest you can get is what, 2-3 years old?

    I would automatically assume that the OEM battery is no good and budget for a replacement.
    I like ZeroLemon batteries but there are other, somewhat slimmer options available and still much higher in capacity than OEM.
    07-27-2018 10:00 AM
  10. datum9's Avatar
    I bought a Samsung S8+
    ....
    Plus, it's not made from glass so it's not as fragile.

    Right. I've seen several Galaxy S-series maybe Note series that have cracked screens.
    They are very slippery without an extended battery or a case and when they fall, they invariably crack the screen.

    Such thin phones are annoying.

    V20 with a ZeroLemon extended batt/case is perfect size/dimensions/depth.
    07-27-2018 10:03 AM
  11. Mike Dee's Avatar
    New in the sense of not used "new". Not "new" in the sense of made a month ago.

    The newest you can get is what, 2-3 years old?

    I would automatically assume that the OEM battery is no good and budget for a replacement.
    I like ZeroLemon batteries but there are other, somewhat slimmer options available and still much higher in capacity than OEM.
    I meant new in the box unused. I wouldn't count the OEM battery out unless it is completely dead and has been for awhile
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    07-27-2018 01:56 PM
  12. datum9's Avatar
    What makes you think you cannot buy NIB unused? Of course you can. Ebay is flooded with that junk, epsecially for older models like V20, V10, Samsung Note 4, etc.

    I got a NIB Note 4, unused. For not much more than $100. I know it's about 4 years old technology or so but the device is working wonderfully. The peak of value. LG V20 is very close to that.

    Certainly, when they released V40 and Note 9, it will drive down the prices of all preceding models.
    07-27-2018 02:08 PM
  13. tickerguy's Avatar
    The V20 is a very competent device and will remain so. What will ultimately make you want to dump it for something else is band expansion; it's not intentional by the manufacturers but they can't include RF capability for bands that don't exist yet as they don't know exactly where to put the resonance frequencies for the antennas, never mind being unable to certify the radio since the government won't do it for un-allocated RF space.

    This turned into a real problem with T-Mobile and Band 12 a few years ago and will again for 71, I suspect, a few years from now -- a bit sooner, if you happen to live in an area where they're deploying it today, and that footprint will spread. AT&T is shutting down its GSM service and Verizon is shutting down its CDMA service; both, along with T-Mobile's low-band GSM, will wind up being reprovisioned for LTE plus whatever they auction off next.
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    07-27-2018 03:56 PM
  14. Mike Dee's Avatar
    What makes you think you cannot buy NIB unused? Of course you can. Ebay is flooded with that junk, epsecially for older models like V20, V10, Samsung Note 4, etc.

    I got a NIB Note 4, unused. For not much more than $100. I know it's about 4 years old technology or so but the device is working wonderfully. The peak of value. LG V20 is very close to that.

    Certainly, when they released V40 and Note 9, it will drive down the prices of all preceding models.
    I didn't say you couldn't....I was asking the question because I was surprised they were still available. I know there's a glut of Galaxies out there didn't think there was a surplus of V20s based on other posters comments in one of the threads. You also stlli have to be careful because one user bought NIB from Newegg and the IMEI had already beern activated. There are great deals out there on older models though.
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    07-27-2018 08:02 PM
  15. snowmutt's Avatar
    It is actually not easy to buy a NIB V20. They are hard to find at this point of the lifecycle. They are out there, but so are very dishonest sellers. It is a balance as I have been coming the market for a while, almost pulling the trigger on the much easier to find NIB G6 several times.

    But the V20 is the best of a whole bunch of worlds, and worth looking for in my opinion. Very interesting about the OEM battery. I immediately found a few to research just in case the V20 I ordered gets here and needs some love. I have actually heard great things about the Galaxy/Note series, but they just are too expensive still or do not have what I want.

    Need to start learning about the camera. I blow chunks at photography. This is too good a device to not take advantage of the manual settings, just need people WAY better than me to rip off settings from so I don't screw it up.

    How things going, datum9? good value on your purchase?
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    07-28-2018 02:29 PM
  16. Morty2264's Avatar
    Congratulations! The V20 is an amazing phone! Enjoy it when you get it!
    07-28-2018 04:10 PM
  17. mrdave570's Avatar
    The only reason for me to change is when 5G is available in my area and 5G phones are for sale on AT&T. I like my V20 and am trying to keep it going for another year.
    recDNA likes this.
    07-31-2018 12:10 PM
  18. recDNA's Avatar
    New in the sense of not used "new". Not "new" in the sense of made a month ago.

    The newest you can get is what, 2-3 years old?

    I would automatically assume that the OEM battery is no good and budget for a replacement.
    I like ZeroLemon batteries but there are other, somewhat slimmer options available and still much higher in capacity than OEM.
    That's the problem. It's pretty near impossible to find one of the LG built V20 completely unopened in box. I'd take my chances with the battery but no reliable brick and mortar nor even sold directly by Amazon available. Many Chinese clones out there. I'd but another V20 new if I could. I don't trust any source claiming to have them.
    07-31-2018 12:25 PM
  19. datum9's Avatar
    The only reason for me to change is when 5G is available in my area and 5G phones are for sale on AT&T. I like my V20 and am trying to keep it going for another year.
    That's a valid point. 5G is a quatum leap in the technology. Over 10 times faster.

    Something similar going from CRT to LCD monitor, or from spinning HDD to solid state storage.

    The current new phones are not a quantum leap. When 5G becomes available, that will make sense to dump not just V20 but everything else have at this point.

    But that time has not come yet. Not for the next several years, at least.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    08-01-2018 03:30 PM

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