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  1. flyingkytez's Avatar


    The new Pocophone F1 by Xiaomi is $300. It has Snapdragon 845, 6-8GB RAM, 128-256GB storage, 4000mAh battery, 6.18' IPS LCD screen, headphone jack, dual cameras, 20 MP front camera, Android 8.1 Oreo, Quick Charge 3.0. Very attractive price and definitely considering switching to if the price is that insanely aggressive! The cost is equivalent to buying 2-3 flagships.. Xiaomi has gotten better and improved a lot, unfortunately the US is scared of Chinese spyware. I have a Chinese branded ZTE phone and it's been pretty solid especially with the Snapdragon chip... Of course the software isn't the best but it works. Considering how often people get rid of their phones, a price like this will give people a break on their wallets. Not sure how Xiaomi can afford this price point, especially with a Snapdragon chip.
    08-26-2018 07:55 PM
  2. LuvMusic's Avatar
    Not sure how Xiaomi can afford this price point, especially with a Snapdragon chip.
    Government subsidies and unfair labor practices. If Trump continues with his tariff war against China, you could see this device become much more expensive.
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    08-27-2018 10:03 AM
  3. MDMcAtee's Avatar


    The new Pocophone F1 by Xiaomi is $300. It has Snapdragon 845, 6-8GB RAM, 128-256GB storage, 4000mAh battery, 6.18' IPS LCD screen, headphone jack, dual cameras, 20 MP front camera, Android 8.1 Oreo, Quick Charge 3.0. Very attractive price and definitely considering switching to if the price is that insanely aggressive! The cost is equivalent to buying 2-3 flagships.. Xiaomi has gotten better and improved a lot, unfortunately the US is scared of Chinese spyware. I have a Chinese branded ZTE phone and it's been pretty solid especially with the Snapdragon chip... Of course the software isn't the best but it works. Considering how often people get rid of their phones, a price like this will give people a break on their wallets. Not sure how Xiaomi can afford this price point, especially with a Snapdragon chip.
    Simple answer for me is no.

    I don't trust them. Heck I don't trust most companies, but I certainly don't want to chance it with them.

    Mac
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    08-27-2018 10:47 AM
  4. Mike Dee's Avatar

    The cost is equivalent to buying 2-3 flagships.
    No...you can buy 2-3 of those instead
    of one flagship
    08-27-2018 04:39 PM
  5. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Government subsidies and unfair labor practices. If Trump continues with his tariff war against China, you could see this device become much more expensive.
    Dang, you're right. I totally forgot about the "trade war". I think we take for granted the prices we get on phones, other countries pay a higher price. I have no idea why China is being targeted.. we might never see this phone reach the USA if negotiations don't happen.
    08-27-2018 05:43 PM
  6. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Simple answer for me is no.

    I don't trust them. Heck I don't trust most companies, but I certainly don't want to chance it with them.

    Mac
    Are you concerned with Chinese spyware? I don't blame you. OnePlus had spyware and was not transparent with it. Lenovo had Chinese spyware. Not confirmed but Huawei and ZTE too (BOTH Huawei and ZTE's founder were ex-Chinese military officers).

    However, even some variants of the V20 had spyware.. it was the Mobile Services Manager... and also Snowden revealed that Verizon gave the government access to everyone's phones. The carriers have their own spyware with their bloatware apps... Man, even Google spys on you... just go to Google.com/history
    08-27-2018 05:47 PM
  7. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Oh I know they all do to some extent, but I just don't trust this company
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    08-27-2018 06:05 PM
  8. kbagrows's Avatar
    Well, you and I were independently thinking the same thing. My V20 has been dogging it a bit lately, and the camera app has been a real pain in the a$$ and slow to start up. And, despite positive reviews, I've never been to happy with auto mode of the camera.

    Anyway, it probably jut needs a factory resent, but I keep waiting for Oreo to drop on the US996 model..... I've been eyeing the new phones out (like the S9, etc) but I sure don't want to pay those prices.

    The Poco phone sure looks intriguing. Great reviews so far, and I can't help but love the idea of a 4,000 m amp battery on Oreo, and then Pie. But what really did it for me.... the screws on the bottom. Xiaomi recently dropped a Youtube video showing disassembly of the phone. I used to replace batteries all the time in phones that weren't considered "user-replaceable", but were pretty darn easy to replace if you have some basic skills (i.e., Lumia 920 and others). The video really did it for me. I love the idea of replacing that 4000 battery in a year. And, a replacement digitizer has already popped up on Amazon. In short, this looks to me like an enthusiast's phone.

    Couldn't help myself. I ordered one off eBay a couple of days ago. Should get it late next week (assuming the sale goes through). Let me know if you're interested - I'll be happy to follow-up with my thoughts/comments re a comparison with the V20.
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    08-29-2018 11:04 AM
  9. Mooncatt's Avatar
    However, even some variants of the V20 had spyware.. it was the Mobile Services Manager...
    Wrong. Mobile Services Manager is just DT Ignite renamed. Spammy bloatware, yes. Spyware, no. Plus, spyware wouldn't be so easily found and disabled.
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    08-29-2018 12:49 PM
  10. wordsm1th's Avatar
    I bought the poco f1 with an eye on this being a replacement for my V20,
    Here are my observations
    1. the camera on poco is quicker, it loads faster, snaps really fast but the picture quality may not be essentially better, have only tried a couple of clicks, I may try a few shots more before a verdict can be passed.
    2. Poco is certainly snappier by a mile due to the new OS, and better hardware, my V20 was slowing down and the battery life wasn't so good either even with a replacement pack
    3. The screen quality is at par or perhaps slightly better for contrast and brightness on poco
    4.fm radio is present which is a big deal considering v20 was one of the few phones with this feature.
    5. Quick charge works well
    6. There is support for AptxHD(yet to try) but no audio dac, and this will make it tough to part ways with v20, I really used the audio capabilities more than anything else.

    Happy to answer anymore questions
    08-31-2018 12:50 AM
  11. Mooncatt's Avatar
    6. There is support for AptxHD(yet to try) but no audio dac, and this will make it tough to part ways with v20, I really used the audio capabilities more than anything else.
    From what I was just seeing. It has a headphone jack. If that's the case, it has a DAC. It may not be as good as the V20, but it will have one by necessity. Remember, DAC = Digital to Analog Converter and is used in any digital media device when connecting to an analog output like a headphone jack.
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    08-31-2018 01:11 AM
  12. watsinaname's Avatar
    I stand corrected, meant to highlight the quad dac for the V20, thank you for correcting me
    08-31-2018 06:21 AM
  13. kbagrows's Avatar
    Is there a way to tweak audio settings? In one of the online reviews I saw, it talked about a setting menu that allowed you to tweak volume, etc.

    Also, how is LTE in your area?

    And, did you keep the standard MIUI launcher? Do you like it? Sorry for all the questions. Thanks.
    08-31-2018 10:19 AM
  14. wordsm1th's Avatar
    Is there a way to tweak audio settings? In one of the online reviews I saw, it talked about a setting menu that allowed you to tweak volume, etc.

    Also, how is LTE in your area?

    And, did you keep the standard MIUI launcher? Do you like it? Sorry for all the questions. Thanks.
    Attached the audio settings screenshot, its the usual Xiaomi /mi audio effects screen.

    The LTE/phone network is quite bad at both my workplace and my home, it affects the battery life a lot.

    The launcher is poco launcher, similar to miui but with an app drawer, icon pack support and some other features.

    Do not worry about questions, happy to be of help.

    08-31-2018 02:23 PM
  15. kbagrows's Avatar
    Thanks! Yeah, I'm in the US, and know that it likely won't work on any LTE bands, was hoping 3G or so, but I'm losing faith that it will actually work....
    08-31-2018 02:37 PM
  16. christianttt's Avatar
    How is build quality? Does it feel cheap?
    I bought the poco f1 with an eye on this being a replacement for my V20,
    Here are my observations
    1. the camera on poco is quicker, it loads faster, snaps really fast but the picture quality may not be essentially better, have only tried a couple of clicks, I may try a few shots more before a verdict can be passed.
    2. Poco is certainly snappier by a mile due to the new OS, and better hardware, my V20 was slowing down and the battery life wasn't so good either even with a replacement pack
    3. The screen quality is at par or perhaps slightly better for contrast and brightness on poco
    4.fm radio is present which is a big deal considering v20 was one of the few phones with this feature.
    5. Quick charge works well
    6. There is support for AptxHD(yet to try) but no audio dac, and this will make it tough to part ways with v20, I really used the audio capabilities more than anything else.

    Happy to answer anymore questions
    09-01-2018 10:20 PM
  17. wordsm1th's Avatar
    Not quite, depends on one's definition of cheap too, my context will be cheap is filmsy, loose parts, gaps etc, just by the virtue of polycarbonate back this doesn't feel cheap. The buttons have hood tactile feel, screen looks good. I use phones with covers so not too worried about the back anyway.
    How is build quality? Does it feel cheap?
    09-08-2018 09:05 PM
  18. christianttt's Avatar
    How is battery life so far?
    Not quite, depends on one's definition of cheap too, my context will be cheap is filmsy, loose parts, gaps etc, just by the virtue of polycarbonate back this doesn't feel cheap. The buttons have hood tactile feel, screen looks good. I use phones with covers so not too worried about the back anyway.
    09-08-2018 09:50 PM
  19. wordsm1th's Avatar
    How is battery life so far?
    I have seen about 6 hours avg SoTin overall 28-30 hours standby. I mostly have bad network reception and that consumes a lot of it.

    Have seen some users report upto 10 hours
    09-09-2018 09:50 AM
  20. christianttt's Avatar
    I have seen about 6 hours avg SoTin overall 28-30 hours standby. I mostly have bad network reception and that consumes a lot of it.

    Have seen some users report upto 10 hours
    6 hours of SOT is great. I guess it last all day.
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    09-09-2018 11:31 AM
  21. wordsm1th's Avatar
    With normal usage, could even last 2 days, am yet to debloat or apply any mods, that would only take the SOT further
    6 hours of SOT is great. I guess it last all day.
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    09-09-2018 02:53 PM
  22. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Well, you and I were independently thinking the same thing. My V20 has been dogging it a bit lately, and the camera app has been a real pain in the a$$ and slow to start up. And, despite positive reviews, I've never been to happy with auto mode of the camera.

    Anyway, it probably jut needs a factory resent, but I keep waiting for Oreo to drop on the US996 model..... I've been eyeing the new phones out (like the S9, etc) but I sure don't want to pay those prices.

    The Poco phone sure looks intriguing. Great reviews so far, and I can't help but love the idea of a 4,000 m amp battery on Oreo, and then Pie. But what really did it for me.... the screws on the bottom. Xiaomi recently dropped a Youtube video showing disassembly of the phone. I used to replace batteries all the time in phones that weren't considered "user-replaceable", but were pretty darn easy to replace if you have some basic skills (i.e., Lumia 920 and others). The video really did it for me. I love the idea of replacing that 4000 battery in a year. And, a replacement digitizer has already popped up on Amazon. In short, this looks to me like an enthusiast's phone.

    Couldn't help myself. I ordered one off eBay a couple of days ago. Should get it late next week (assuming the sale goes through). Let me know if you're interested - I'll be happy to follow-up with my thoughts/comments re a comparison with the V20.
    YES, please do a follow up here. I'm interested in the phone as well, that's awesome you can easily change the battery by simply unscrewing it (just like the iPhone 4, the back glass slides up and off).
    09-10-2018 08:38 AM
  23. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Not quite, depends on one's definition of cheap too, my context will be cheap is filmsy, loose parts, gaps etc, just by the virtue of polycarbonate back this doesn't feel cheap. The buttons have hood tactile feel, screen looks good. I use phones with covers so not too worried about the back anyway.
    So it's a plastic phone? Or just the back of it?
    09-10-2018 08:39 AM
  24. flyingkytez's Avatar
    From what I was just seeing. It has a headphone jack. If that's the case, it has a DAC. It may not be as good as the V20, but it will have one by necessity. Remember, DAC = Digital to Analog Converter and is used in any digital media device when connecting to an analog output like a headphone jack.
    It probably has a single DAC. The V20 has 4x DAC (Quad). I'm sure the audio is fine however.
    09-10-2018 08:41 AM
  25. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Wrong. Mobile Services Manager is just DT Ignite renamed. Spammy bloatware, yes. Spyware, no. Plus, spyware wouldn't be so easily found and disabled.
    Spyware can be defined in many ways. The LG Smart World app is definitely spyware, it even says it in the disclaimer; they will collect your data to help improve its services and you agree to it when you click yes. Spying? Yes, but they tell you in the fine print. Your carrier probably has it built in (AT&T data monitoring app, Verizon account app). Even social media apps too... nobody reads the fine print OR very advanced vocabulary is used so it's hard to understand what they mean in the disclaimer. You may be talking about unofficial spyware, which means they're not transparent about it. The V20 is guilty of it. BTW on my V20 it says Mobile Services Manager which was already built in and is on by default. It automatically installs app without asking for permission... Kinda annoying and upsetting LG allowed it to be in here. I have a carrier-free US unlocked version so there's no excuses for it being on here. Since I'm pretty tech savvy I know how to remove the app, however the average person doesn't have a clue and are being spied on.

    V20 owners, would you upgrade to Xiaomi?-screenshot_2018-09-10-05-52-28.jpg
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    I think the problem here is Chinese spyware and since China is being run by a dictator with no presidential term limits and the fact that Huawei and ZTE used to be owned by ex-military officers plus OnePlus and Lenovo (currently Motorola) were caught having spyware, people are paranoid and concerned China is trying to spy on people.
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    09-10-2018 08:48 AM
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