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  1. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Is this a conspiracy?

    "The company reportedly only shipped 3.9 million Pixel phones in 2017, according to IDC research director Francisco Jeronimo. For Google, that's not too shabby for a newcomer -- it's twice the number of Pixels from the year before -- but overall it's still pretty weak, and a sign that there's a long road ahead before the company even comes close to challenging Apple and Samsung.

    iPhone and Galaxy phone sales dwarfed Pixel by a massive margin. Apple sold 216.7 million iPhones and Samsung sold 316.4 million Android smartphones last year, according to IDC numbers."

    The question at this point is how can they still survive in this competitive market? I'll let you figure that out. Stop saying I'm making this up, I'm not. I'm reading these from multiple sources. Unless you're saying they're all fake?

    https://mashable.com/2018/02/13/goog...hipments-weak/
    So given the sales figures how were they pretending to be out of stock which was one of your conspiracy theories?
    09-05-2018 08:16 AM
  2. flyingkytez's Avatar
    All of these statements are false:















    These ones need more clarification:

    Source? I couldn't find anything that substantiated either claim except for the telegram article from last year, which was 1) based on erroneous data and 2) didn't consider the fact that smartphones sales, overall, as a market, are shrinking and Samsung is consistently WIDENING their lead in marketshare. In fact, Q4 2017, as an example, the top 6 OEM's ALL increased their marketshare, year over year. That means the smaller OEM's, as a group went down and the top 6 consolidated their lead. During that same period, sales across all OEM's went down by 25 million units year over year.

    I think you're saying that they are more profitable in their hardware component ventures than in their mobile division. That'd be true. As an example, Samsung makes more profit off of every iPhone sold than on their own flagships. Which is a component of why your earlier statements about profit margins are false.

    "On it's last legs" is an idiom, and therefore cannot be literally true. This sentence is false. Also, HTC is not "on it's last legs", aside from the point that it doesn't have legs, it is a company, which is a legal fiction - HTC's mobile division is struggling, but you have no idea if they're going to close tomorrow or next year or 10 years from now or turn it around and continue to be successful for 100 years.

    So far you've said 3 true statements and this one is not one of them. I do believe that this is how you "see it", but how you see it and how things actually are seem to have no relationship whatsoever.

    I'm really hoping that you noticed the pattern above. You gave one hell of a rant, but almost none of what you said was true in any sense of the concept of facts based on reality. This pattern, the fact that almost everything you say can be easily verified to be false and is almost instantly recognizable as false, is why there is so much resistance to your statements. I'm really hoping that with the "fake news" trend in the world, that people in general start asking for sources and for people to make honest arguments in good faith, backed by evidence and reason rather than just stringing together as many lies as possible, wadding them up and firing them shotgun style into the conversation with the hope that it'll be so overwhelming that people won't even try to sift through all the nonsense. Well, this morning I had the time to sift through it and I have to say, the overall theme of your posts is pretty clear. They're untrue.

    Let me know if you need any of the data or simple reasoning to show why the statements I called out are untrue. I think they're all fairly obvious, but if not happy to show you why.
    "The company reportedly only shipped ***3.9 million Pixel phones in 2017, according to IDC research director Francisco Jeronimo. For Google, that's not too shabby for a newcomer -- it's twice the number of Pixels from the year before -- but overall it's still pretty weak, and a sign that there's a long road ahead before the company even comes close to challenging Apple and Samsung.

    iPhone and Galaxy phone sales dwarfed Pixel by a massive margin. Apple sold ***216.7 million iPhones and Samsung sold ***316.4 million Android smartphones last year, according to IDC numbers."

    https://mashable.com/2018/02/13/goog...hipments-weak/

    What's keeping Google's smartphone department alive? Even HTC is losing money each year, how is Google still able to survive when a veteran smartphone maker like HTC is barely surviving? The answer is Google itself is a very large company and the losses from their phones is nothing to them. It probably costed them much more money hiring people to design it and create the software for it (and paying manufacturers like LG and HTC to actually produce the hardware), they did not gain profit from it if you consider how much money and time they invested. Even The Essential phone company nearly got bankrupt... Google has a massive backup rainy day fund which is the entire company itself.

    Fun fact: Google bought out the internet radio company, Songza, only to completely shut down the service and promote their awful Google music instead. Google also bought out Motorola, kept their patents, then sold it to Lenovo. They are doing the same with HTC as well... Google+ is still running although not a single soul I personally know uses it, Google needs to give up on social media and shut it down. This is not fake, research and fact check it yourself. ***Google did NOT invent Android nor YouTube, they were bought out... typical Monopoly move.

    More insight:
    Google quietly acquired Android in 2005 for an undisclosed price which has been estimated at $50 million. (Google's annual report for 2005 says the company spent a total of $130 million on acquisitions that year.)

    In 2005 the web was in desperate need of a video hub, and Google TRIED to create one with the poorly named Google Videos (a naming concept the company refuses to reinvent). But the site failed to catch on as quickly as YouTube, which had more social features and extremely popular pirated TV clips (try to find a 2006 feature about YouTube that doesn’t mention “Lazy Sunday”). At the time of its acquisition, YouTube was one of the world’s fastest-growing websites, and its executives had a clear understanding of what users wanted out of a video site. As the adage goes: IF YOU CAN’T BEAT THEM, BUY THEM.

    During the time they bought out and owned Motorola, their phones were considered budget phones (Moto G) and weren't as popular as Samsung, only making sales due to the company's brand name and history. The Nexus line originally offered power on a budget, which actually was a good move and popular among Android fans but they finally decided to trash it due to that association and replaced it with their Pixel line.

    Should I continue? Which giant buys out more companies than Google? Is it a monopoly? Yes. Google sucks at their own creations and they lack innovation so much, they rely on buying other companies which is embarrassing. Google is known to create "their own version" of something that was already invented or created, just so they can say, "hey look, we have one too!" Failed Google products: Google glasses, Google self driving car... Wannabe Google products: Google+ vs. Facebook & Twitter, Google Assistant vs. Apple's Siri & Samsung's S-Voice, Google Home vs. Amazon Alexa, Google Cardboard VR vs. Oculus. Again, no innovation, only power and money. Do you get my point? I'm not exactly saying Google sucks entirely because I use their products and services too, just pointing out the fact that they are a monopoly and have so much power. I am however disappointed with the lack of original ideas, despite their employees being extremely spoiled with sleeping pods, colorful bikes, and free food, they still can't invent a single product themselves without buying out a startup company or re-creating something that's already made.
    09-05-2018 08:17 AM
  3. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Is this a conspiracy?

    "The company reportedly only shipped 3.9 million Pixel phones in 2017, according to IDC research director Francisco Jeronimo. For Google, that's not too shabby for a newcomer -- it's twice the number of Pixels from the year before -- but overall it's still pretty weak, and a sign that there's a long road ahead before the company even comes close to challenging Apple and Samsung.

    iPhone and Galaxy phone sales dwarfed Pixel by a massive margin. Apple sold 216.7 million iPhones and Samsung sold 316.4 million Android smartphones last year, according to IDC numbers."

    The question at this point is how can they still survive in this competitive market? I'll let you figure that out. Stop saying I'm making this up, I'm not. I'm reading these from multiple sources. Unless you're saying they're all fake?

    https://mashable.com/2018/02/13/goog...hipments-weak/
    So if they only sold 3.9 million does that mean they lost money?
    09-05-2018 08:19 AM
  4. LuvMusic's Avatar
    A slightly different perspective on replacing my V20...........

    I think about replacing my V20 and was almost caught-up in the Note 9 hype....never used an S pen and was a big fan of the stylus in the Palm Pilot days. But resisted.

    My V20 works for me and I don't feel like I'm sacrificing much compared to today's flagships. My biggest complaint with my V20 is the screen....it just doesn't work well in bright sunlight.

    So when it comes to looking at replacements for my V20, I read about upcoming in-screen finger print scanners, folding screens, more cameras, and notches. Sorry, these features just don't move me and I'm not sure they will improve my user experience enough to justly a $1000.00 or more expenditure!

    What will improve my user experience and potentially justify a $1000.00 expenditure is 5G and it is not that far away. I bet we see many current Samsung and Apple phones (Apple rarely mentions 5G) come up for sale if the 5G hype matches real world experience, and I suspect it will. When 4G replaced 3G it was a MAJOR improvement in performance.

    The only phone that has me curious right now is the Oneplus 6T because of it's price point. But, if the new rumors about a January release a true that will reduce its attractiveness to me, unless it happens to be 5G which is doubtful.

    I will wait and keep enjoying the great sound quality and good performance of my V20 for now. It is a great time to be following smartphone technology.
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    09-05-2018 08:39 AM
  5. flyingkytez's Avatar
    So given the sales figures how were they pretending to be out of stock which was one of your conspiracy theories?
    Pixel and Pixel 2 sold worse last year than one quarter of 2015 Windows Phones. WOW! A now dead product beats Google's phones?

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/18...-ads-dont-work

    They are creating hype and trying to have creative ways to market their phones because apparently, their ads don't work for their phones. What else could they do? Bribe YouTube and tech reviewers? Pretend to be out of stock for a week to create excitement? Maybe. I cannot prove much but only speculate because of something called non-disclosure agreements, they cannot say anything about it otherwise Google will go after them. Marques Brownlee was hilariously slammed for making false positive reviews on HTC phones, people were upset he was biased when he reviewed the phone without saying 1 bad thing and they unsubscribed. LG paid for JerryRigEverything's flight to LG's headquarters to do a durability test on their V30 (his name is actually Zack).. is there bribing going on? I'll let you decide. To them, it's not bribing but actually "marketing", which is also true. Again, non-disclosure agreements means nobody is going to say anything.

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    09-05-2018 09:01 AM
  6. Mike Dee's Avatar
    "The company reportedly only shipped ***3.9 million Pixel phones in 2017, according to IDC research director Francisco Jeronimo. For Google, that's not too shabby for a newcomer -- it's twice the number of Pixels from the year before -- but overall it's still pretty weak, and a sign that there's a long road ahead before the company even comes close to challenging Apple and Samsung.

    iPhone and Galaxy phone sales dwarfed Pixel by a massive margin. Apple sold ***216.7 million iPhones and Samsung sold ***316.4 million Android smartphones last year, according to IDC numbers."

    https://mashable.com/2018/02/13/goog...hipments-weak/

    What's keeping Google's smartphone department alive? Even HTC is losing money each year, how is Google still able to survive when a veteran smartphone maker like HTC is barely surviving? The answer is Google itself is a very large company and the losses from their phones is nothing to them. It probably costed them much more money hiring people to design it and create the software for it (and paying manufacturers like LG and HTC to actually produce the hardware), they did not gain profit from it if you consider how much money and time they invested. Even The Essential phone company nearly got bankrupt... Google has a massive backup rainy day fund which is the entire company itself.

    Fun fact: Google bought out the internet radio company, Songza, only to completely shut down the service and promote their awful Google music instead. Google also bought out Motorola, kept their patents, then sold it to Lenovo. They are doing the same with HTC as well... Google+ is still running although not a single soul I personally know uses it, Google needs to give up on social media and shut it down. This is not fake, research and fact check it yourself. ***Google did NOT invent Android nor YouTube, they were bought out... typical Monopoly move.

    More insight:
    Google quietly acquired Android in 2005 for an undisclosed price which has been estimated at $50 million. (Google's annual report for 2005 says the company spent a total of $130 million on acquisitions that year.)

    In 2005 the web was in desperate need of a video hub, and Google TRIED to create one with the poorly named Google Videos (a naming concept the company refuses to reinvent). But the site failed to catch on as quickly as YouTube, which had more social features and extremely popular pirated TV clips (try to find a 2006 feature about YouTube that doesn’t mention “Lazy Sunday”). At the time of its acquisition, YouTube was one of the world’s fastest-growing websites, and its executives had a clear understanding of what users wanted out of a video site. As the adage goes: IF YOU CAN’T BEAT THEM, BUY THEM.

    During the time they bought out and owned Motorola, their phones were considered budget phones (Moto G) and weren't as popular as Samsung, only making sales due to the company's brand name and history. The Nexus line originally offered power on a budget, which actually was a good move and popular among Android fans but they finally decided to trash it due to that association and replaced it with their Pixel line.

    Should I continue? Which giant buys out more companies than Google? Is it a monopoly? Yes. Google sucks at their own creations and they lack innovation so much, they rely on buying other companies which is embarrassing. Google is known to create "their own version" of something that was already invented or created, just so they can say, "hey look, we have one too!" Failed Google products: Google glasses, Google self driving car... Wannabe Google products: Google+ vs. Facebook & Twitter, Google Assistant vs. Apple's Siri & Samsung's S-Voice, Google Home vs. Amazon Alexa, Google Cardboard VR vs. Oculus. Again, no innovation, only power and money. Do you get my point? I'm not exactly saying Google sucks entirely because I use their products and services too, just pointing out the fact that they are a monopoly and have so much power. I am however disappointed with the lack of original ideas, despite their employees being extremely spoiled with sleeping pods, colorful bikes, and free food, they still can't invent a single product themselves without buying out a startup company or re-creating something that's already made.
    Here is the definition of a monopoly


    exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market, or a control that makes possible the manipulation of prices.



    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/monopoly
    09-05-2018 09:03 AM
  7. Almeuit's Avatar
    You are definitely making up your conspiracies with Samsung, Google, apple, etc.

    The only one you never go all conspiracy theory on is LG.. I wonder why? Your bias is kind of obvious to be honest...

    But I digress for the sake of the topic. As always when you start these the topic goes wildly off the rails so let's get back to the V20 and topic at hand.

    As I've suggested many times if you want to talk all "they sabotage this and do this shady thing on purpose" make a thread in the phone wars area versus turning every thread into this.

    Is this a conspiracy?

    "The company reportedly only shipped 3.9 million Pixel phones in 2017, according to IDC research director Francisco Jeronimo. For Google, that's not too shabby for a newcomer -- it's twice the number of Pixels from the year before -- but overall it's still pretty weak, and a sign that there's a long road ahead before the company even comes close to challenging Apple and Samsung.

    iPhone and Galaxy phone sales dwarfed Pixel by a massive margin. Apple sold 216.7 million iPhones and Samsung sold 316.4 million Android smartphones last year, according to IDC numbers."

    The question at this point is how can they still survive in this competitive market? I'll let you figure that out. Stop saying I'm making this up, I'm not. I'm reading these from multiple sources. Unless you're saying they're all fake?

    https://mashable.com/2018/02/13/goog...hipments-weak/
    09-05-2018 09:12 AM
  8. flyingkytez's Avatar
    You are definitely making up your conspiracies with Samsung, Google, apple, etc.

    The only one you never go all conspiracy theory on is LG.. I wonder why? Your bias is kind of obvious to be honest...

    But I digress for the sake of the topic. As always when you start these the topic goes wildly off the rails so let's get back to the V20 and topic at hand.

    As I've suggested many times if you want to talk all "they sabotage this and do this shady thing on purpose" make a thread in the phone wars area versus turning every thread into this.
    Nope, read my other post. I mentioned LG bribed Zack from JerryRigEverything by flying him out to LG's HQ to do a durability test on the G6 (and participate in other marketing things for LG). Bribing? Maybe.. you can say it's just "marketing" or a "paid partnership". Non-disclosure agreements will keep their mouths sealed otherwise they will not be able to be partners with them again. I am not biased, I'm just sharing what I know and speculating from these sources. Just because I'm saying Apple is beating Google in phone sales by a longshot doesn't mean I like Apple. I'm just stating facts, I'd still probably reluctantly get a Pixel over an iPhone. Is HTC doing bad? Yes, it's a fact, not biased opinion. Is LG the best smartphone company ever? Probably not. They failed many times, especially with the failed G5 experiment, bootloop debacle of the G4/V10, defective Pixel 2 OLED screens which they manufacture, slow software updates, mediocre camera, etc. I can talk all day about the negatives of LG.

    Here it is. LG "paid" for Zack's flight to LG's office (maybe compensated him for his time too? Most likely)


    HTC is slowly falling apart. Smartphone Maker HTC To Layoff A Quarter Of Staff After Years Of Losing Money: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphje...-losing-money/

    I'm not making this up..
    09-05-2018 09:39 AM
  9. Almeuit's Avatar
    I'm not making this up..
    You do you but do so by making the thread to talk about these theories versus taking topics to it all the time.
    09-05-2018 09:58 AM
  10. Itsa_Me_Mario's Avatar
    "The company reportedly only shipped ***3.9 million Pixel phones in 2017, according to IDC research director Francisco Jeronimo. For Google, that's not too shabby for a newcomer -- it's twice the number of Pixels from the year before -- but overall it's still pretty weak, and a sign that there's a long road ahead before the company even comes close to challenging Apple and Samsung.

    iPhone and Galaxy phone sales dwarfed Pixel by a massive margin. Apple sold ***216.7 million iPhones and Samsung sold ***316.4 million Android smartphones last year, according to IDC numbers."

    https://mashable.com/2018/02/13/goog...hipments-weak/

    What's keeping Google's smartphone department alive? Even HTC is losing money each year, how is Google still able to survive when a veteran smartphone maker like HTC is barely surviving? The answer is Google itself is a very large company and the losses from their phones is nothing to them. It probably costed them much more money hiring people to design it and create the software for it (and paying manufacturers like LG and HTC to actually produce the hardware), they did not gain profit from it if you consider how much money and time they invested. Even The Essential phone company nearly got bankrupt... Google has a massive backup rainy day fund which is the entire company itself.

    Fun fact: Google bought out the internet radio company, Songza, only to completely shut down the service and promote their awful Google music instead. Google also bought out Motorola, kept their patents, then sold it to Lenovo. They are doing the same with HTC as well... Google+ is still running although not a single soul I personally know uses it, Google needs to give up on social media and shut it down. This is not fake, research and fact check it yourself. ***Google did NOT invent Android nor YouTube, they were bought out... typical Monopoly move.

    More insight:
    Google quietly acquired Android in 2005 for an undisclosed price which has been estimated at $50 million. (Google's annual report for 2005 says the company spent a total of $130 million on acquisitions that year.)

    In 2005 the web was in desperate need of a video hub, and Google TRIED to create one with the poorly named Google Videos (a naming concept the company refuses to reinvent). But the site failed to catch on as quickly as YouTube, which had more social features and extremely popular pirated TV clips (try to find a 2006 feature about YouTube that doesn’t mention “Lazy Sunday”). At the time of its acquisition, YouTube was one of the world’s fastest-growing websites, and its executives had a clear understanding of what users wanted out of a video site. As the adage goes: IF YOU CAN’T BEAT THEM, BUY THEM.

    During the time they bought out and owned Motorola, their phones were considered budget phones (Moto G) and weren't as popular as Samsung, only making sales due to the company's brand name and history. The Nexus line originally offered power on a budget, which actually was a good move and popular among Android fans but they finally decided to trash it due to that association and replaced it with their Pixel line.

    Should I continue? Which giant buys out more companies than Google? Is it a monopoly? Yes. Google sucks at their own creations and they lack innovation so much, they rely on buying other companies which is embarrassing. Google is known to create "their own version" of something that was already invented or created, just so they can say, "hey look, we have one too!" Failed Google products: Google glasses, Google self driving car... Wannabe Google products: Google+ vs. Facebook & Twitter, Google Assistant vs. Apple's Siri & Samsung's S-Voice, Google Home vs. Amazon Alexa, Google Cardboard VR vs. Oculus. Again, no innovation, only power and money. Do you get my point? I'm not exactly saying Google sucks entirely because I use their products and services too, just pointing out the fact that they are a monopoly and have so much power. I am however disappointed with the lack of original ideas, despite their employees being extremely spoiled with sleeping pods, colorful bikes, and free food, they still can't invent a single product themselves without buying out a startup company or re-creating something that's already made.
    You're response to my pointing out your misinformation is to post even more misinformation. Ok.
    09-05-2018 11:43 AM
  11. Itsa_Me_Mario's Avatar
    Nope, read my other post. I mentioned LG bribed Zack from JerryRigEverything by flying him out to LG's HQ to do a durability test on the G6 (and participate in other marketing things for LG). Bribing? Maybe.. you can say it's just "marketing" or a "paid partnership". Non-disclosure agreements will keep their mouths sealed otherwise they will not be able to be partners with them again. I am not biased, I'm just sharing what I know and speculating from these sources. Just because I'm saying Apple is beating Google in phone sales by a longshot doesn't mean I like Apple. I'm just stating facts, I'd still probably reluctantly get a Pixel over an iPhone. Is HTC doing bad? Yes, it's a fact, not biased opinion. Is LG the best smartphone company ever? Probably not. They failed many times, especially with the failed G5 experiment, bootloop debacle of the G4/V10, defective Pixel 2 OLED screens which they manufacture, slow software updates, mediocre camera, etc. I can talk all day about the negatives of LG.

    Here it is. LG "paid" for Zack's flight to LG's office (maybe compensated him for his time too? Most likely)


    HTC is slowly falling apart. Smartphone Maker HTC To Layoff A Quarter Of Staff After Years Of Losing Money: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphje...-losing-money/

    I'm not making this up..
    The "speculation" is the problem. Because, you are presenting things that are obviously untrue as if they are facts. And what sucks is that we know you're aware that a lot of it is untrue.
    09-05-2018 11:47 AM
  12. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Well here's a real kick in the pants. My v20 died completely today. It just won't boot up for nothing even with a fresh battery.

    I had to switch my Sim into my litely used htc-u11.

    Let me tell you how much I miss my v20... This phone does not hold a candle to it except for the speakers on it.

    Will I get another one.. I don't know to be honest I simply don't know. I have a few months to go on my payments yet so I'll be stuck using this for a while. I might take my v20 in and see what if anything they can do to help me..

    Stay tuned

    Mac
    09-08-2018 10:21 PM
  13. Itsa_Me_Mario's Avatar
    Well here's a real kick in the pants. My v20 died completely today. It just won't boot up for nothing even with a fresh battery.

    I had to switch my Sim into my litely used htc-u11.

    Let me tell you how much I miss my v20... This phone does not hold a candle to it except for the speakers on it.

    Will I get another one.. I don't know to be honest I simply don't know. I have a few months to go on my payments yet so I'll be stuck using this for a while. I might take my v20 in and see what if anything they can do to help me..

    Stay tuned

    Mac
    Damn I'm sorry to hear that.
    09-08-2018 11:32 PM
  14. muckrakerX's Avatar
    Isn't there a key combination that is supposed to wake up a nonresponsive phone sometimes, like, both volume keys +power, or something like that? Might be worth a shot.
    09-09-2018 11:20 AM
  15. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Isn't there a key combination that is supposed to wake up a nonresponsive phone sometimes, like, both volume keys +power, or something like that? Might be worth a shot.
    I don't think that the issue here. He can't get it to boot up
    09-09-2018 12:42 PM
  16. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    I don't think that the issue here. He can't get it to boot up
    It's not the issue Mike the phone is just dead. I've never had this problem before with any phone.

    Took it into Sprint today and they couldn't get it to work at all either, so it's off to somewhere to get fixed. 7-10 business days per Sprint, so I'll probably be getting a refurbished unit back.

    This blows big-time.

    I did look at the g7 pretty close today and it looks nice and sounds nice but I don't know much about it.

    Mac
    09-09-2018 05:03 PM
  17. Itsa_Me_Mario's Avatar
    It's not the issue Mike the phone is just dead. I've never had this problem before with any phone.

    Took it into Sprint today and they couldn't get it to work at all either, so it's off to somewhere to get fixed. 7-10 business days per Sprint, so I'll probably be getting a refurbished unit back.

    This blows big-time.

    I did look at the g7 pretty close today and it looks nice and sounds nice but I don't know much about it.

    Mac
    We're so close to the V40 that since you have a backup it may be worth waiting to see it in person. Also I've seen new in box V20's for $200-250 recently, if you trust third parties.
    09-09-2018 05:07 PM
  18. Mike Dee's Avatar
    It's not the issue Mike the phone is just dead. I've never had this problem before with any phone.

    Took it into Sprint today and they couldn't get it to work at all either, so it's off to somewhere to get fixed. 7-10 business days per Sprint, so I'll probably be getting a refurbished unit back.

    This blows big-time.

    I did look at the g7 pretty close today and it looks nice and sounds nice but I don't know much about it.

    Mac
    Could be the power button if the battery is showing charged
    09-09-2018 05:18 PM
  19. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Could be the power button if the battery is showing charged
    I don't know.. Nothing is showing on it plugged in or not. It doesn't show charging when plugged in but the diffent batteries show charged in the oem cradle.

    I've discharged it without the battery in, tried to get into the bootloader, but nothing shows up or any haptic feedback.

    I think it's just doa and toast.

    Mac
    09-09-2018 06:18 PM
  20. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    We're so close to the V40 that since you have a backup it may be worth waiting to see it in person. Also I've seen new in box V20's for $200-250 recently, if you trust third parties.
    I have thought about this, but I don't know what Sprint is going to do. If I get a replacement v20, I'll run it till it stops too cause I really don't want to have to spend a grand on a new phone. I'm not back to work yet from my heart attack 1month ago yet.. So I got to be careful about money right now.

    We'll see what Sprint does in a week or so and then try to decide... Heck I might even switch carriers in a couple of months when my wife's and son's lease is up...

    I just hate having to wait for a decision on it...

    Mac
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    09-09-2018 06:37 PM
  21. Almeuit's Avatar
    Well here's a real kick in the pants. My v20 died completely today. It just won't boot up for nothing even with a fresh battery.

    I had to switch my Sim into my litely used htc-u11.

    Let me tell you how much I miss my v20... This phone does not hold a candle to it except for the speakers on it.

    Will I get another one.. I don't know to be honest I simply don't know. I have a few months to go on my payments yet so I'll be stuck using this for a while. I might take my v20 in and see what if anything they can do to help me..

    Stay tuned

    Mac
    That sucks :/
    09-11-2018 10:11 AM
  22. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    That sucks :/
    Yes it does... But hopefully we will have a replacement soon...

    Mac
    09-11-2018 10:44 AM
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