08-23-2017 10:22 AM
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  1. Mike Dee's Avatar
    There are a lot of leaks but so far no real confirmation if all variations will have the Dedicated DAC.
    As a V20 owner that uses and appreciates the DAC on a daily basis I will definitely not upgrade if it missing. I am wondering how many of you V20 owners that enjoy great audio and are considering the V30 will buy it without the DAC.
    I for one will not upgrade, especially since we already lost the battery. I know many of you V20 owners aren't upgrading regardless but I'm curious to how those of you that are dedicated to the dedicated DAC will not compromise.
    08-17-2017 06:44 PM
  2. JkdJedi's Avatar
    Well, id be upset if it didn't and would have to consider other options for sure, the DAC was the main reason I got the v20, it turned me into a HiFi enthusiast and $1000 later in headphones equipment I don't think that's gonna change anytime soon. My question is, will there or is there anything coming out that will come close the dac of the v20?
    08-17-2017 06:49 PM
  3. RaRa85's Avatar
    There is no way a V series device will come without the DAC magic. The question is will they differentiate with the whole tuned by B&O thing like they did with the V20 again.
    08-17-2017 06:50 PM
  4. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Well, id be upset if it didn't and would have to consider other options for sure, the DAC was the main reason I got the v20, it turned me into a HiFi enthusiast and $1000 later in headphones equipment I don't think that's gonna change anytime soon. My question is, will there or is there anything coming out that will come close the dac of the v20?
    I have heard the HTC U11 is pretty good but I will not touch a phone without a dedicated headphone jack.
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    08-17-2017 06:51 PM
  5. SchinkenSpicker's Avatar
    I hope they make this "tuned by B&O" thing again, because then there's some hope they'll use it as an exclusive feature for the korean market instead of the DAC itself. I want this DAC so bad.
    08-17-2017 07:01 PM
  6. vasekvi's Avatar
    I don't forsee LG going without the DAC especially since the V20 was an upgrade over the V10, plus making it available on the G6 in some markets.

    Although I love it, and I have the B&O headphones, I wish LG had some high fidelity signal processing for the Bluetooth side.

    If the V30 had a removable battery and no DAC I'd still get it. But I'm likely skipping over the V30 till the V40 or we will see what else is out there.
    08-17-2017 07:06 PM
  7. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I don't forsee LG going without the DAC especially since the V20 was an upgrade over the V10, plus making it available on the G6 in some markets.

    Although I love it, and I have the B&O headphones, I wish LG had some high fidelity signal processing for the Bluetooth side.

    If the V30 had a removable battery and no DAC I'd still get it. But I'm likely skipping over the V30 till the V40 or we will see what else is out there.
    The V20 supports APT X Bluetooth so if you have compatible headphones it should be good as I doubt they will remove APT X from the V30.
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    08-17-2017 07:19 PM
  8. jamielov's Avatar
    Wasnt this billed already as a multi-media/music powerhouse? I swear I read a few times an improved DAC. May not be the same one as the V30 Plus but i cant see it not having one. There was talk of the sound system being so advanced it will even support external mics and improved recording playback.
    08-17-2017 07:22 PM
  9. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    If LG minces up features with the V30 again this year like they did with the G6 earlier...I'll just laugh and hold onto the V20 for a little longer.

    If they did this, they would deserve any poor sales numbers...
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    08-17-2017 07:26 PM
  10. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    The V20 supports APT X Bluetooth so if you have compatible headphones it should be good as I doubt they will remove APT X from the V30.
    Will the V20 support Bluetooth 5.0? That's the trick.
    08-17-2017 07:27 PM
  11. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Wasnt this billed already as a multi-media/music powerhouse? I swear I read a few times an improved DAC. May not be the same one as the V30 Plus but i cant see it not having one. There was talk of the sound system being so advanced it will even support external mics and improved recording playback.
    I've heard improved audio and the DAC speculated on here and there. There is a lot of concern that LG will pull a G6 maneuver. The sound support for ext. microphone is separate from the DAC. Im under the impression that we can use external on the V20 already.
    08-17-2017 07:31 PM
  12. jamielov's Avatar
    Not sure about external mic on V20, just remember it as a part of the whole "powerhouse" package that was discussed with the V30. I guess we will know in a few weeks.

    I may be misinterpreting but it almost seems to me, from your various posts about what LG is doing wrong, you are looking for reasons to justify not buying it. If it's that close, as a few others will do, the V40 might be worth the wait.
    08-17-2017 09:14 PM
  13. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Will the V20 support Bluetooth 5.0? That's the trick.
    I think you mean V30.... And I don't know
    08-17-2017 10:14 PM
  14. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Not sure about external mic on V20, just remember it as a part of the whole "powerhouse" package that was discussed with the V30. I guess we will know in a few weeks.

    I may be misinterpreting but it almost seems to me, from your various posts about what LG is doing wrong, you are looking for reasons to justify not buying it. If it's that close, as a few others will do, the V40 might be worth the wait.
    Definitely misinterpreting..... No DAC would be an immediate no go. Everything else is wait and see what's really inside the box. What they are doing wrong is making too many variations based on geography.
    08-17-2017 10:19 PM
  15. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    I think you mean V30.... And I don't know
    No, I meant the V20. Is Bluetooth 5.0 tied only to S835 chips?
    08-17-2017 11:24 PM
  16. jamielov's Avatar
    Mike....100% agree on your take on the DAC and geography. To me if there is some top-tier version and all of the units don't have it I do think that's wrong. If we still get an improved version most likely I'm a buyer especially with the rumors of the improved camera which is most important for me but I won't be completely satisfied but I suppose with phone that's always the case anymore. No matter what I got I'm never going to be completely satisfied but this one seems it could have been an easily solved problem
    08-18-2017 01:04 AM
  17. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    If LG minces up features with the V30 again this year like they did with the G6 earlier...I'll just laugh and hold onto the V20 for a little longer.

    If they did this, they would deserve any poor sales numbers...
    No. I wouldn't even consider the V30 without the DAC. That's one of the main reasons I bought the V20.
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    08-18-2017 01:50 AM
  18. dov1978's Avatar
    But LG arrogantly know that for people who say they'll look for elsewhere if there is no DAC, there is no direct competing phone in the V30 sector that has a hifi DAC. I really like LG but this arrogance over the past few years is starting to grind on me a litte. You expect it from Apple or Samsung but LG are dictating what regions get certain features and what they decide people want in a phone, if they release the phone there at all (V10&V20 here in Europe)
    08-18-2017 01:54 AM
  19. VoodooMagnetman's Avatar
    I just don't know why more phone makers don't try and put out a phone that has quality sound and internals like DAC's. I understand that things are going wireless and people want hands free, but what a difference it makes to plug in a quality pair of headphones into a solid DAC. If the LG V30 moves away from this, I'm out. One of the main reasons I purchased the V20.
    08-19-2017 09:41 AM
  20. vasekvi's Avatar
    Phone makers make what they think most people want and leave out features most people don't use to save on cost and for more design flexibility. That's why the removal battery and IR blaster went away from Samsung Phones.
    08-19-2017 09:45 AM
  21. flyingkytez's Avatar
    There are a lot of leaks but so far no real confirmation if all variations will have the Dedicated DAC.
    As a V20 owner that uses and appreciates the DAC on a daily basis I will definitely not upgrade if it missing. I am wondering how many of you V20 owners that enjoy great audio and are considering the V30 will buy it without the DAC.
    I for one will not upgrade, especially since we already lost the battery. I know many of you V20 owners aren't upgrading regardless but I'm curious to how those of you that are dedicated to the dedicated DAC will not compromise.
    If I do upgrade I'm keeping both phones. V20 for music, remote control IR, traveling on the go with no power source while on foot (removable battery) and then V30 solely for the 1.6 aperture camera.
    08-19-2017 10:39 AM
  22. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    Phone makers make what they think most people want and leave out features most people don't use to save on cost and for more design flexibility. That's why the removal battery and IR blaster went away from Samsung Phones.
    Funny enough, Xiaomi manages to keep those features with how they set up their lines and still offer value for money. Some of these others OEMs want to charge extra and drop features, so...
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    08-19-2017 04:28 PM
  23. MSFTisMIA's Avatar
    There are a lot of leaks but so far no real confirmation if all variations will have the Dedicated DAC.
    As a V20 owner that uses and appreciates the DAC on a daily basis I will definitely not upgrade if it missing. I am wondering how many of you V20 owners that enjoy great audio and are considering the V30 will buy it without the DAC.
    I for one will not upgrade, especially since we already lost the battery. I know many of you V20 owners aren't upgrading regardless but I'm curious to how those of you that are dedicated to the dedicated DAC will not compromise.
    I've been a quality audio chaser for years. I used to listen to music on the go from the Windows Mobile days when we had media player and Winamp. The first big phone I got with a multimedia focus was the HTC Touch HD.

    I love the audio on the V20. Sound is great and the amp is more than enough to help navigate a noisy subway commute with little disortion in music quality. Gone are the days of cranking up volume and putting up with the disortion at high levels - I keep the volume between 40-45 with the DAC enabled.

    If LG screws us by piecemealing the features, I'll keep the V20.
    08-19-2017 04:33 PM
  24. Joshua_Muldoon's Avatar
    No, I meant the V20. Is Bluetooth 5.0 tied only to S835 chips?
    Yes, so far. The Bluetooth chip is built into the 835's platform.
    08-20-2017 01:35 PM
  25. Joshua_Muldoon's Avatar
    The V30 should support Bluetooth 5.0 because of using the Snapdragon 835.
    08-20-2017 01:38 PM
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