10-02-2017 10:07 PM
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  1. sjgoten6's Avatar
    And I was listening to music and trying the quad dac and comparing it with the note 8 and I couldn't tell too much difference. I did notice that the volume on the v30 stopped at 75% so that alone made me prefer the note 8. Any way to change that? I looked all throughout the settings.
    09-26-2017 09:53 PM
  2. NougatDude's Avatar
    And I was listening to music and trying the quad dac and comparing it with the note 8 and I couldn't tell too much difference. I did notice that the volume on the v30 stopped at 75% so that alone made me prefer the note 8. Any way to change that? I looked all throughout the settings.
    Where are you? it's not out in the US so can't tell you.
    09-26-2017 09:57 PM
  3. Mike Dee's Avatar
    And I was listening to music and trying the quad dac and comparing it with the note 8 and I couldn't tell too much difference. I did notice that the volume on the v30 stopped at 75% so that alone made me prefer the note 8. Any way to change that? I looked all throughout the settings.
    If you can't tell the difference then somethings wrong......the 75 is not a percentage. It's Max volume. Make sure you enable HiFi sound and use decent headphones
    09-26-2017 09:58 PM
  4. TheMarcus's Avatar
    And I was listening to music and trying the quad dac and comparing it with the note 8 and I couldn't tell too much difference. I did notice that the volume on the v30 stopped at 75% so that alone made me prefer the note 8. Any way to change that? I looked all throughout the settings.
    I can't tell the difference on the V20 either. I bet most people can't. Just like not everyone can tell (or care about) the difference between 1080p and 1440p. Just because one is better on paper, doesn't mean you have an eye or ear for it.

    With that said, there are plenty other defining features about these phones and not just certain features they like to shove in your face with their marketing.
    09-26-2017 10:24 PM
  5. Almeuit's Avatar
    Are you using the appropriate headphones to notice the difference?
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    09-26-2017 10:27 PM
  6. sjgoten6's Avatar
    I was using some Sony headsets we had in the store. They both sounded great but with volume set at 75 max it didn't have the punchier sounds as having it at 100 felt.
    09-26-2017 10:39 PM
  7. sjgoten6's Avatar
    And I'm in the US. The LG rep lady came to our store to show it off.
    09-26-2017 10:40 PM
  8. sjgoten6's Avatar
    Also hi-fi dac was enabled and she even walked through it. I just nodded in agreement that it sounds awesome (and it wasn't bad honestly just didn't notice anything different) I didn't want to make her mad by saying the others loudness won me over
    09-26-2017 10:41 PM
  9. sjgoten6's Avatar
    Also to get more clarification on the source of music, I was playing Sound of Silence by disturbed streaming from Google Play Music. So I don't know of it had to be a special coded song for me to bear a difference
    09-26-2017 10:45 PM
  10. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I can't tell the difference on the V20 either. I bet most people can't. Just like not everyone can tell (or care about) the difference between 1080p and 1440p. Just because one is better on paper, doesn't mean you have an eye or ear for it.

    With that said, there are plenty other defining features about these phones and not just certain features they like to shove in your face with their marketing.
    I don't usually make bets I can't win and I don't speak for other people. What I do know is there's a big difference even to the untrained ear and it's also highly measurable in signal to noise ratio, range and amplitude. The only time the difference is less discernable is with low impendance or cheap head phones which don't fully activate the amp and don't have the proper dynamic range.
    09-26-2017 10:50 PM
  11. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I was using some Sony headsets we had in the store. They both sounded great but with volume set at 75 max it didn't have the punchier sounds as having it at 100 felt.
    The 75 is full volume. The Sony headset was probably low impendance which doesn't trigger the full gain of the Quad DAC. Though I disagree with that method of implementation it is done not to overdrive low impendance high sensitivity headphones. If the Amp was fully activated, you ears would hurt at 75.
    09-26-2017 10:56 PM
  12. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Also to get more clarification on the source of music, I was playing Sound of Silence by disturbed streaming from Google Play Music. So I don't know of it had to be a special coded song for me to bear a difference
    Streaming music from Google play is mostly lower bit rate and not as appreciable as a high definition or lossless file.
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    09-26-2017 10:58 PM
  13. mister2d's Avatar
    He's clearly not the target audience if he's loading up Google Play music to evaluate the V30.

    If you're serious then you come strapped with a USB stick with some 24-bit music and a USB to go cable.
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    09-26-2017 11:08 PM
  14. TheMarcus's Avatar
    I don't usually make bets I can't win and I don't speak for other people. What I do know is there's a big difference even to the untrained ear and it's also highly measurable in signal to noise ratio, range and amplitude. The only time the difference is less discernable is with low impendance or cheap head phones which don't fully activate the amp and don't have the proper dynamic range.
    I assumed the headphones LG gave me were ones that would take advantage of it since they brag so hard about the DAC.
    09-26-2017 11:24 PM
  15. Mike Dee's Avatar
    He's clearly not the target audience if he's loading up Google Play music to evaluate the V30.

    If you're serious then you come strapped with a USB stick with some 24-bit music and a USB to go cable.
    Without a doubt and to the point. Having said I have streamed some decent music as long as the bit rate is decent. Nothing beats hi-res files with decent headphones.
    09-27-2017 04:43 AM
  16. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I assumed the headphones LG gave me were ones that would take advantage of it since they brag so hard about the DAC.
    The B&O headphones aren't bad by themselves, however they are low impendance and don't trigger full output. Impendance by itself is actually kind of a silly way to decide which headphones kick in high gain, since low sensitivity headphones are what need the extra juice. These days high impendance and low sensitivity are sometimes mutually exclusive. As for the B&O headphones, I find them on the clean side when it comes to sound. Many people prefer a headphones that crank out bass to the point that I call it muddy. It helps with the B&O and many headphones to allow some burn in time to get peak performance.
    09-27-2017 04:58 AM
  17. mister2d's Avatar
    Without a doubt and to the point. Having said I have streamed some decent music as long as the bit rate is decent. Nothing beats hi-res files with decent headphones.
    Indeed. Bit rate is the thing to look at. I use Tidal hifi exclusively so that I can at least stream uncompressed music. It sounds fantastic. Doesn't count against my Tmo cap either.

    MQA music from Tidal also sounds great on my V20, but I have to be on my home's wifi to be able to do this.
    09-27-2017 05:57 AM
  18. sunriseshell's Avatar
    The 75 is just an arbitrary number, it could be 1000 or that one could go to 11. Full volume on one phone will likely be different than full volume on another.
    As far as the quad DAC, it's my understanding to really be able to hear the difference you need high impedance headphones and a lossless file format (flac, wav). Compressed audio and standard headphones should sound more or less the same on most devices.
    09-27-2017 07:06 AM
  19. sjgoten6's Avatar
    So the beats we sell in store is not a high impedance right? Also where does one buy music that is lossless? Has to be ripped from CD?
    09-27-2017 07:20 AM
  20. sjgoten6's Avatar
    Also I gotta know this info of a customer asks me about it. Don't wanna sound stupid heh!
    09-27-2017 07:23 AM
  21. mister2d's Avatar
    ...Also where does one buy music that is lossless?...
    Have a look at hdtracks dot com.
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    09-27-2017 07:34 AM
  22. Mike Dee's Avatar
    The 75 is just an arbitrary number, it could be 1000 or that one could go to 11. Full volume on one phone will likely be different than full volume on another.
    As far as the quad DAC, it's my understanding to really be able to hear the difference you need high impedance headphones and a lossless file format (flac, wav). Compressed audio and standard headphones should sound more or less the same on most devices.
    Even without high impendance headphones there is a difference and you don't have to have lossless files to appreciate it. That is just what you would want for optimum results.
    09-27-2017 07:58 AM
  23. sjgoten6's Avatar
    Yeah but the galaxy was way louder. I even put the galaxy to 3/4 volume to see if it was truly at 75% and yes it did have the same volume. But I guess my ears just suck at trying to find the difference. I had to listen to a song on one device the hurry and pull the cord and put it in the other one and go back and forth.
    09-27-2017 08:19 AM
  24. Mike Dee's Avatar
    So the beats we sell in store is not a high impedance right? Also where does one buy music that is lossless? Has to be ripped from CD?
    I'm thinking that all beats are low impendance....don't know for sure.
    You can rip CDs or download flac files. Tidal music subscription allows you to listen.
    09-27-2017 09:38 AM
  25. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Yeah but the galaxy was way louder. I even put the galaxy to 3/4 volume to see if it was truly at 75% and yes it did have the same volume. But I guess my ears just suck at trying to find the difference. I had to listen to a song on one device the hurry and pull the cord and put it in the other one and go back and forth.
    The 75 is irrelevant on the LG....it's full volume for whatever mode it's in. Try the Poweramp app on a V20 and you will see that to the app uses a different scale. It will go to one hundred but no louder.

    The reason the Samsung is louder is they are using the same amount of output regardless of headphones. The LG in high output will kill it. If you have headphones with a removable cord you can bump up the LG into external device mode which will get you more juice. Plug the cord into the phone first without the headphones to trick the device.
    09-27-2017 09:44 AM
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