10-18-2017 11:48 AM
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  1. flyingkytez's Avatar
    I currently own a V20. I went into two different T-Mobile stores. They both didn't have it on display and they had to bring it out from the backroom to show it. Sales guys didn't really know anything about it nor seem to care.

    My first impression: gorgeous looking device, a lot better looking than the Note 8 or S8 Plus (or even iPhone 8's recycled design). It's also very light weight compared to the V20, slightly narrower and shorter (not super narrow like the S8 Plus). I'm very glad the curves were done right, not too curvy nor affecting usage. The back looks kinda weird though, glass looks a little warped.

    Camera: I honestly didn't see any immediate difference with the camera quality and speed (compared to the V20) with the exception of the 13MP camera which looks awesome, the wide angle distortion is gone and quality is very good. I haven't gotten to really test it out as I was in the store playing with it for a minute, I think it does focus a little faster and has a better bokeh effect when taking pictures of objects close up.

    Display: I also didn't see much difference with the V20's display and the V30's AMOLED screen, looks very similar. I'm sure it would look better in dim light since it's AMOLED. I think the P-AMOLED helped make the phone lighter since it's plastic and not glass.

    If you already have the V20/G6, then maybe it's better to hold off till a price drop or wait for the G7/V40. Otherwise, I still think it's a MUCH better choice than the Pixel 2 and Note 8 personally, price wise and feature wise. If you have the extra cash this holiday season and willing to splurge, I'd say do it! Think I'm gonna wait a bit longer, at least until a very good tempered glass screen protector is released and see if there are any reports of issues (there's already reports of glass scratching easily, not surprised with Gorilla Glass 5).
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    10-11-2017 12:50 PM
  2. krazyatom's Avatar
    I say V20 is better because of removal battery.
    10-11-2017 12:52 PM
  3. Skyway's Avatar
    Just to clarify, the v30 doesn't have an AMOLED display. It uses a P-OLED display
    10-11-2017 02:44 PM
  4. Kendahl Titcomb's Avatar
    Wait your giving this impression from a store display experience.. not finding that the most reliable source for an impression is rather hear it from someone that bought the phone
    10-11-2017 02:58 PM
  5. Jeremiah Bonds's Avatar
    So are you changing your mind about getting one?
    10-11-2017 03:27 PM
  6. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Just to clarify, the v30 doesn't have an AMOLED display. It uses a P-OLED display
    The difference is subtle

    http://www.androidauthority.com/poled-vs-amoled-792869/
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    10-11-2017 03:48 PM
  7. RaRa85's Avatar
    I say V20 is better because of removal battery.
    I would say so as well but it was more of a convenience than an actual need. I barely needed to have a backup battery and the only I did invest in was 6400 mAh which was really great and not super bulky like some of the other options like the ridiculous but practical ZeroLemon ones.
    10-11-2017 03:53 PM
  8. MA2GA28's Avatar
    You should, you know, buy and use the phone before giving your input from fiddling with it for 20 minutes in a store.

    Also, where are the glass scratching reports? I have yet to see any here or on Reddit.
    md308 likes this.
    10-11-2017 03:57 PM
  9. krazyatom's Avatar
    I would say so as well but it was more of a convenience than an actual need. I barely needed to have a backup battery and the only I did invest in was 6400 mAh which was really great and not super bulky like some of the other options like the ridiculous but practical ZeroLemon ones.
    May I ask which extended battery you got?
    10-11-2017 03:57 PM
  10. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I currently own a V20. I went into two different T-Mobile stores. They both didn't have it on display and they had to bring it out from the backroom to show it. Sales guys didn't really know anything about it nor seem to care.

    My first impression: gorgeous looking device, a lot better looking than the Note 8 or S8 Plus (or even iPhone 8's recycled design). It's also very light weight compared to the V20, slightly narrower and shorter (not super narrow like the S8 Plus). I'm very glad the curves were done right, not too curvy nor affecting usage. The back looks kinda weird though, glass looks a little warped.

    Camera: I honestly didn't see any immediate difference with the camera quality and speed (compared to the V20) with the exception of the 13MP camera which looks awesome, the wide angle distortion is gone and quality is very good. I haven't gotten to really test it out as I was in the store playing with it for a minute, I think it does focus a little faster and has a better bokeh effect when taking pictures of objects close up.

    Display: I also didn't see much difference with the V20's display and the V30's AMOLED screen, looks very similar. I'm sure it would look better in dim light since it's AMOLED. I think the P-AMOLED helped make the phone lighter since it's plastic and not glass.

    If you already have the V20/G6, then maybe it's better to hold off till a price drop or wait for the G7/V40. Otherwise, I still think it's a MUCH better choice than the Pixel 2 and Note 8 personally, price wise and feature wise. If you have the extra cash this holiday season and willing to splurge, I'd say do it! Think I'm gonna wait a bit longer, at least until a very good tempered glass screen protector is released and see if there are any reports of issues (there's already reports of glass scratching easily, not surprised with Gorilla Glass 5).
    Doesn't sound like you're giving it a fair chance at proving itself. I'll bet if it had a removable battery and an IR blaster you would be all over it.
    10-11-2017 04:00 PM
  11. RaRa85's Avatar
    Oh yeah I should've included the link. It's by Hyperion and I highly recommend it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N0...cUvbUpU6015471 The only downside is after you install the battery the phone may not recognize it a few times and reboot but once it reads all the information, it's all good from there.
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    10-11-2017 04:03 PM
  12. traviswhayne's Avatar
    That's not correct it's just marketing. Both Samsung and LG use P-OLED displays, but Samsung chooses to market theirs as AMOLED (Active Matrix OLED Display), which is what LG uses as well, but they identify by a different marketing language probably due to trademarks etc...

    Inside the LG V30's new display - POLED vs Samsung's Super AMOLED - Android Authority
    10-11-2017 04:35 PM
  13. md308's Avatar
    My impressions after a couple days: Build and looks are great as you say. I think the N8 looks great too, but just too tall for me. Back is a fingerprint magnet, but it had a case on as soon as the SIM was in. Size and weight for a screen this size is just unreal.

    Camera: Between work and bad weather, haven't taken but 1 pic so far. As for quality, I was extremely pleased with the V20 camera, from what I have seen the G6 improved on that somewhat, and I expect the same incremental improvements with the V30. Face it, unless you are coming from a low-end phone, all the flagships have cameras on par now, with their own unique strengths in certain areas. If you are waiting for one that is going to blow all others out of the water, get comfortable...

    Display: Blows the V20 away. I was able to tweak the color on the V20 to where it didn't bother me "too much", but I'm biased towards LED. Comparing the same pics on my V20 - V30, color, clarity, and of course depth of black is miles ahead. No banding or hot spots either, but maybe I'm just lucky there.

    Agree on price drop if that's your priority, but I like having the latest and greatest. As for comparison to the V20, other than my preference for LED over LCD, the biggest difference is in size and form factor. Using and carrying the V20 feels like a brick now in comparison, and this is from a guy who isn't afraid of big phones (had a Nexus 6 before the V20). The features and screen size they have put into a package this small and light just amazes me. Was also worried I would miss the second screen, but I actually prefer the Always On now for when off. The floating bar is not quite as good, but acceptable and not a deal breaker for me.

    So far, loving it.
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    10-11-2017 04:50 PM
  14. Kendahl Titcomb's Avatar
    That's not correct it's just marketing. Both Samsung and LG use P-OLED displays, but Samsung chooses to market theirs as AMOLED (Active Matrix OLED Display), which is what LG uses as well, but they identify by a different marketing language probably due to trademarks etc...

    Inside the LG V30's new display - POLED vs Samsung's Super AMOLED - Android Authority
    Actually Samsung uses Amoled and LG is using POLED these are very different in one perspective. Samsung's phones use a glad substrate for the screen where as LG is using plastic hence the P. It's similar in color reproduction but comes very far apart in is overall size and weight also hence why the Samsung phones tend to be a bit heavier
    10-11-2017 05:06 PM
  15. MA2GA28's Avatar
    Actually Samsung uses Amoled and LG is using POLED these are very different in one perspective. Samsung's phones use a glad substrate for the screen where as LG is using plastic hence the P. It's similar in color reproduction but comes very far apart in is overall size and weight also hence why the Samsung phones tend to be a bit heavier
    You should read the article...
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    10-11-2017 05:14 PM
  16. Aquila's Avatar
    I say V20 is better because of removal battery.
    Weak. The V20 is better in only one way: not a glass body.
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    10-11-2017 05:21 PM
  17. Aquila's Avatar
    If you already have the V20/G6, then maybe it's better to hold off till a price drop or wait for the G7/V40. Otherwise, I still think it's a MUCH better choice than the Pixel 2 and Note 8 personally, price wise and feature wise. If you have the extra cash this holiday season and willing to splurge, I'd say do it! Think I'm gonna wait a bit longer, at least until a very good tempered glass screen protector is released and see if there are any reports of issues (there's already reports of glass scratching easily, not surprised with Gorilla Glass 5).
    loling at the more features thing. Value, maybe, all in, no way.

    Also if you can't tell the difference between the v20 and v30 camera, isn't that really bad news for the v30?
    10-11-2017 05:25 PM
  18. Kendahl Titcomb's Avatar
    This is taking about phones other than the high end phones like the Note and S series.. These phones use the glass substrate over the plastic
    10-11-2017 07:09 PM
  19. flyingkytez's Avatar
    I say V20 is better because of removal battery.
    Loving the removal battery more than ever. Never need to worry about battery again, unless I forget to bring my extra battery with me. Everyone else I guess enjoys using bulky battery packs I guess.
    10-12-2017 09:41 AM
  20. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Wait your giving this impression from a store display experience.. not finding that the most reliable source for an impression is rather hear it from someone that bought the phone
    I said in the title first impression. And I did mentioned that I played with it for a minute or two. Coming from a V20 owner and not judging the phone for it's non removable battery.
    10-12-2017 09:43 AM
  21. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Just to clarify, the v30 doesn't have an AMOLED display. It uses a P-OLED display
    I mentioned that. I said the phone felt lighter because it's P-AMOLED.
    10-12-2017 09:43 AM
  22. flyingkytez's Avatar
    So are you changing your mind about getting one?
    Not exactly, I still want that 13MP camera upgrade along with the 1.6 aperture low-light. Might not get it immediately this time around, could hold off for a bit longer. Could probably wait until the G7 And enjoy the price drop.
    10-12-2017 09:46 AM
  23. flyingkytez's Avatar
    You should, you know, buy and use the phone before giving your input from fiddling with it for 20 minutes in a store.

    Also, where are the glass scratching reports? I have yet to see any here or on Reddit.
    It's a $800 phone, can't really test it out without taking a loss. Only if I could borrow it, YouTube reviewers are lucky they get a loaner.

    Some guy on Instagram was complaining on LG's page that his V30 already got scratched too soon. I know it's using Gorilla Glass 5, in my experience it scratches easily.
    10-12-2017 09:47 AM
  24. flyingkytez's Avatar
    Doesn't sound like you're giving it a fair chance at proving itself. I'll bet if it had a removable battery and an IR blaster you would be all over it.
    That would be true. I can live without removable battery but I'm really judging the phone based on a first impression and quickly comparing the camera on the spot.

    I still think LG actually did the most in terms of upgrades/changes from last year's model compared to other manufactures whom really didn't add much, in fact taking out features like the headphone jack (Pixel 2) or fingerprint scanner (iPhone X) and offering minimal to no improvements.
    10-12-2017 09:54 AM
  25. flyingkytez's Avatar
    loling at the more features thing. Value, maybe, all in, no way.

    Also if you can't tell the difference between the v20 and v30 camera, isn't that really bad news for the v30?
    More features is better. Pixel 2, One Plus 5? Great devices but really nothing exciting and missing a lot of features such as dual camera. Less features is better? Enjoy not having the headphone jack.

    I didn't get to test the low-light capabilities as well as video recording upgrade. I'm sure it has improved. I also mentioned the 13MP camera being way better than the 8MP from the V20.
    10-12-2017 09:58 AM
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