10-12-2012 09:26 AM
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  1. pappy53's Avatar
    I received this private message:

    "Hello pappy53,

    The post that you created in the following thread has been un-approved

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    Post ID: Watch out for "Rudeco". He has scammed several members on......
    Thread: [ROM-CM9]Paranoid Android Tablet UI~August 15th,2012 MIC FIXED
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    If you have any questions, you can ask an administrator for assistance.

    Sincerely,
    The Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com staff
    --Chris [cole2kb]"

    Why wouldn't they want the members to know about a known scammer? I don't understand.
    09-17-2012 10:45 PM
  2. Cory Streater's Avatar
    Guys, if you read the Marketplace Rules, it is stated in bold red font that you are at your own risk when purchasing items in the Marketplace.

    You are free to post your feedback here in the Marketplace forum, but it's not our responsibility to get in the middle of nor police buyer/seller disputes.

    All I know right now, is that this person has sold 4 items in the Marketplace forum. Nobody has complained about him up until this thread was started yesterday. Now there's 5 of you all saying he tried to and/or did scam you.

    That said, I sent Rudeco a PM yesterday, to inform him that he had 24-hours to respond in this thread. He has not done so and has been banned.

    Pappy, your post was unapproved because it was outside of the Marketplace forum.

    I personally wouldn't conduct a transaction, with anyone on the internet, unless I had some sort of assurance that my payment would be protected in the event something went wrong.
    YourMobileGuru and pkcable like this.
    09-17-2012 11:14 PM
  3. chris2k5's Avatar
    He tried to pull the same stunt with me. He said he was leaving the country and dropped it off at Fedex for me.
    I luckily tried paying him with my credit card + non-gift via Paypal. He rejected the payment and said he wanted GIFT ONLY.

    I told him no because there was no protection. Watch out for this guy. He has been doing the same thing on other forums. From now on, everyone must use NON-GIFT Paypal.
    Bren S. likes this.
    09-18-2012 04:54 PM
  4. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Any news from anyone? Looks like he did the same thing over on the Android Forums. Ripped a bunch of people off under a lot of different names.
    09-19-2012 02:28 PM
  5. MichaelBane's Avatar
    Any news from anyone? Looks like he did the same thing over on the Android Forums. Ripped a bunch of people off under a lot of different names.
    From what I can tell they saw he logged on under the same IP for all 3 names.... they've since blocked that IP and the users. Safe to say he's gone because of all the heat on him now on the forums. Its friggin nuts.
    09-19-2012 02:52 PM
  6. Wildo6882's Avatar
    From what I can tell they saw he logged on under the same IP for all 3 names.... they've since blocked that IP and the users. Safe to say he's gone because of all the heat on him now on the forums. Its friggin nuts.
    Yeah. That's absolutely insane. I've been buying and selling here and on CrackBerry for a couple years and I couldn't imagine doing that to anyone. It's premeditated wire fraud. Obtaining money via the Internet over fraudulent means. I knew there was always the chance something may not come in the condition as described, but damn this is crazy.
    09-19-2012 03:08 PM
  7. Bren S.'s Avatar
    He tried to pull the same stunt with me. He said he was leaving the country and dropped it off at Fedex for me.
    I luckily tried paying him with my credit card + non-gift via Paypal. He rejected the payment and said he wanted GIFT ONLY.

    I told him no because there was no protection. Watch out for this guy. He has been doing the same thing on other forums. From now on, everyone must use NON-GIFT Paypal.
    Have you noticed how many of the ads here ask for payment as gift? Not good...Not good at all.

    Sent telepathically via my Galaxy Nexus
    09-19-2012 06:31 PM
  8. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Have you noticed how many of the ads here ask for payment as gift? Not good...Not good at all.

    Sent telepathically via my Galaxy Nexus
    I've sold tons of stuff on here and CrackBerry like I said and have always asked for payment via gift because it saves money for me and until I had enough PayPal transactions regular payments took a few days for me to be able to withdraw them. Luckily for me, a few people trusted me early on and I was able to earn a good reputation as an honest seller.

    I have also added the caveat to my sales that if you want the protection of it being a regular purchase to add in the fees. Most everyone is okay with that (I've done it numerous times on purchases I've made as well), or at least you can negotiate it in. And I never turned someone away who demanded it be regular payment. That's just dumb business. Like I said, worst case scenario is you negotiate it in to the price.

    What I'm getting at is paying via gift isn't always the problem. It's the person who you're dealing with. That they ask for it as gift doesn't mean they are a scammer. It's the multitude of their actions. That being said, if someone can't point you to their feedback, and isn't willing to work with you, I would NEVER pay via gift in the forums anymore. To some trusted sellers that I've already done transactions with (or am close to someone who has), I would.
    09-19-2012 07:28 PM
  9. TBolt's Avatar
    I've sold tons of stuff on here and CrackBerry like I said and have always asked for payment via gift because it saves money for me and until I had enough PayPal transactions regular payments took a few days for me to be able to withdraw them. Luckily for me, a few people trusted me early on and I was able to earn a good reputation as an honest seller.

    I have also added the caveat to my sales that if you want the protection of it being a regular purchase to add in the fees. Most everyone is okay with that (I've done it numerous times on purchases I've made as well), or at least you can negotiate it in. And I never turned someone away who demanded it be regular payment. That's just dumb business. Like I said, worst case scenario is you negotiate it in to the price.

    What I'm getting at is paying via gift isn't always the problem. It's the person who you're dealing with. That they ask for it as gift doesn't mean they are a scammer. It's the multitude of their actions. That being said, if someone can't point you to their feedback, and isn't willing to work with you, I would NEVER pay via gift in the forums anymore. To some trusted sellers that I've already done transactions with (or am close to someone who has), I would.
    1. Are you saying the buyer sends you the fee as a separate gift transaction? Otherwise, aren't you just raising the sale price and therefore the fee, as well?

    2. The fact that seller reputations aren't tracked and referenced here at AC is a major weakness. If AC is going to offer a marketplace, they ought to develop some form of seller reputation tracking. Failing this ... AC ought to AT LEAST assist in cases of obvious & recurring fraud.

    3. I still see AC's failure to help its community in fraud cases as a major stain in the otherwise bright reputation AC has ... had.


    Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
    09-19-2012 07:46 PM
  10. Wildo6882's Avatar
    1. Are you saying the buyer sends you the fee as a separate gift transaction? Otherwise, aren't you just raising the sale price and therefore the fee, as well?

    2. The fact that seller reputations aren't tracked and referenced here at AC is a major weakness. If AC is going to offer a marketplace, they ought to develop some form of seller reputation tracking. Failing this ... AC ought to AT LEAST assist in cases of obvious & recurring fraud.

    3. I still see AC's failure to help its community in fraud cases as a major stain in the otherwise bright reputation AC has ... had.


    Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
    1. Absolutely not what I was saying. For example, say I want $300 net to me for my phone. You want to be covered under PayPal's protection, so you don't want to pay as a gift. So we've agreed on a price, but you want their protection, so if you pay me $300 not as gift, I'll lose roughly $9 from their fees. So we negotiate a slightly higher price, say $305-ish. You pay as regular payment to cover you. I get close to my $300 net payment after PayPal takes their fee. And everyone is happy.

    2. Absolutely agree 100%.

    3. Absolutely agree 100%.
    TBolt, titans30dude and Jonneh like this.
    09-19-2012 07:57 PM
  11. pappy53's Avatar
    Paypal turned down my "unauthorized use" claim.
    09-22-2012 08:19 AM
  12. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Paypal turned down my "unauthorized use" claim.
    Damn. Any other claim you can make?
    09-22-2012 08:50 AM
  13. willistheyounger's Avatar
    I just got the same type of email and they wont let you file any other type of claim
    09-22-2012 10:11 AM
  14. svfd757's Avatar
    bump because this scam artist is a ****** bag
    Bren S. likes this.
    09-25-2012 04:36 AM
  15. ibcop's Avatar
    Sorry, but it ain't gonna happen. I am getting the Feds involved.
    I hate to say it, but the Feds won't do anything - it doesn't meet their investigative criteria. They may tell you they will look into it, but the reality is they have bigger and better things to do - the monetary loss that you incurred isn't enough for them to get involved, but it sucks *** that you were burned. Hopefully you get your cash back in some fashion.
    10-02-2012 11:05 AM
  16. cgardnervt's Avatar
    /bump!

    Just glad its not the norm! Hope you got your money back some how.
    10-11-2012 02:43 PM
  17. SteveISU's Avatar
    I agree. Providing the means to deal, and then turning a blind eye when a large issue arises and leave it up to the members to handle it is lazy at best. Other sites do more for the members in the marketplace. I understand caveat emptor, but the firm stance that they don't get involved is pathetic.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Android Central Forums

    Admins and Mods on NASIOC would have pulled enough info that every address that showed up would have led to 3-4 members showing up at every residence. lol


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    10-12-2012 09:26 AM
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