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  1. strav22's Avatar
    If your computer ever dies you still have almost full computer functionality with a good back up phone.

    Sent from my LG870 via Tapatalk 2
    That's not a worry for me, but thank you for the perspective.

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    mrsmumbles likes this.
    12-07-2013 05:04 PM
  2. Lanhoj's Avatar
    Just curious, why would you need the G as a back up device?
    ...
    I don't "need" a backup device, but I get 4-6 phones/year (purchase 1 or 2 & sent 3 or 4) so if I don't make the G a backup to keep in my jacket pocket it'll just sit in its box...and I like to have one in case the battery on my primary dies (though I carry a portable charger too, LoL).

    I don't know, I just like to have a backup - it didn't cost me anything so might as well. If I had to pay for it though, I think I still would considering how cheap they are in Canada with some of the recent promotions to replace my more fragile N4.

    And before you ask why I keep them & not sell them - I work in Mobile Development so I like to have a few reference devices or at least 1 for each platform plus a few extra in case family members need a phone (I gave away one this morning, actually).

    So, if you have a bit of money hanging around, I'd say pick it up. It's better IMO to be safe with a backup phone somewhere worse comes to worse - it beats needing to dust off an old flip-phone!

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using AC Forums mobile app
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    12-07-2013 05:30 PM
  3. Matt Casey's Avatar
    Hey all,
    A tablet charger will charge it faster (my RAZR i got charged in about 1 hour with a Xoom 2 charger from 5% to 100%).
    But it might also shorten battery life over time. We are talking half a year to a year of every day charging with a tablet charger here. As far as I know charging faster than normal produces little cracks in the material. Not sure how, but over time, the capacity of the battery will lower. Personal experinece: My RAZR i would last from 7am to 6pm with my user habits. After charging it all the time with a Xoom 2 charger the battery went down from 7am to 4:30pm.
    As long as the Ampere values don't vary too much you should be fine. Best would be of course to use branded chargers, they are safer.
    Cheers,
    Nicole
    Everything I've been reading (e.g. How USB charging works, or how to avoid blowing up your smartphone | ExtremeTech ) indicates that there is no disadvantage or harm to your battery in using a faster higher amp charger. So, for example it should be completely safe to use a 5 volt 2.0 amp charger with the Moto G which is rated to charge at up to 1.5 amp ( https://motorola-global-portal.custh...50/action/auth ). The phone will only charge at a max of 1.5 amp, but using a higher 2.0 amp charger will cause no damage.

    Nicole, can you refer to your source of information that rapid charging with higher amp charger causes long-term loss of capacity? Does anyone else have any info sources indicating that higher amp chargers cause any harm? For example, I'm thinking of using the Nexus 7 5 v 2.0 amp charger with the Moto G.
    12-09-2013 06:17 PM
  4. Nicole Summers's Avatar
    Hey Matt,
    I take it back - I have read many things now as well that indicate the contrary and I simply forgot to update this post.

    Source is university education - thinking about it it might be well outdated! And industry today probably has many built in security functions to prevent that.

    However, in theory , ignoring any security features and just looking at a basic model, I learned that charging faster than the battery "likes" will result in a lower capacity over time, due to micro cracks in the the material. Hope that makes sense =)

    Cheers,
    Nicole
    12-10-2013 03:30 AM
  5. Fernando PG's Avatar
    any word on when Motorola is going to launch the bumper case?
    12-10-2013 01:40 PM
  6. strav22's Avatar
    any word on when Motorola is going to launch the bumper case?
    Sometime in January, that info is on their site
    12-10-2013 01:43 PM
  7. Matt Casey's Avatar
    Hey Nicole,
    Thanks for your reply. I agree that there is some uncertainty about whether or not faster charging reduces long-term battery capacity. What seems definite is that the Moto G will only pull a maximum of 1.5 amp, even if the charger allows higher (e.g. Nexus 7 charger allows 2.0 amp).

    The new Motorola brand wall chargers on the U.S. website ( Duo Rapid Charger at Motorola - A Google Company ) are rated at 1.2 amp (6w), so I guess we should assume that at least 1.2 amp is safe for the Moto G. Whether going all the way up to the maximum 1.5 amp the Moto G is rated to pull by using a higher amp charger would degrade long-term battery capacity, I certainly don't know for sure. I just haven't found anything on the internet that says definitely that higher amp charging (within the batteries acceptable limit) with Lithium Ion batteries causes reduced long-term capacity.

    Unfortunately, this still leaves me unsure if the Nexus 7 2.0 amp charger (or the off-brand 2.0 amp chargers that mobile websites in the U.K.
    ( Buy Motorola Moto G Chargers ) are selling for the Moto G will or won't reduce long-term capacity?
    12-10-2013 04:01 PM
  8. shmeeeel's Avatar
    I have the Moto G. I have enabled the hang up with power button which I find quite useful. However if I am using speakerphone I have no way of unlocking the phone to turn it off or use the phone at all without hanging up, apart from disabling the feature is there any fix? Thanks
    12-15-2013 08:24 AM
  9. Matt Casey's Avatar
    I'm still not sure, but after doing more research on Battery University website, I have concluded that there may in fact be some additional degradation (beyond normal reduction with time) in long-term battery capacity by using a 2A charger with the Moto G.

    Please see this post for my logic and references:
    http://forums.androidcentral.com/goo...ge-fast-2.html

    CORRECTION AND UPDATE:
    But here is an update since I first added the above post. (This correction is now added to the above post but repeated here for consistency.)

    I have more authoritative information directly from Battery University that changes the conclusion I drew based on my effort to extrapolate from the Battery University 'Fast and Ultra-Fast Chargers' website article.

    The extrapolation I did was based on the additional loss of battery capacity cited when going from a 1C to 2C charging rate. But according to direct communication from Battery University, when charging at a rate below .7C there should be no measurable improvement to long-term capacity by using slower charging rates. Charging above .7C would still be expected to add more stress to Lithium Ion Polymer batteries and likely add to long-term reduction of capacity.

    So, what this means for the Moto G and Nexus 5 is that there should be no measurable difference between charging with 2A, 1.2A, 1A, or 850mA chargers as far as effect on long-term battery capacity goes. Both the Moto G and Nexus 5 are supposed to automatically restrict the charge rate at 1500mA even when using a faster charger, which is just at or below .7C for both phones. So, as long as the charger dependably keeps to 5V, a higher amperage 2A charger will be faster but pose no problem to long-term capacity.
    12-17-2013 08:57 PM
  10. The Sun King's Avatar
    The charger isn't an issue, 5.00 from your local (private bussiness) phone shop, generic 3pin UK micro usb with a blue light, this ones Mymo, rated 1000mA - no problems at all.
    12-19-2013 05:42 AM
  11. Ruben Silva's Avatar
    It is, it runs perfectly on mine.
    12-24-2013 07:03 PM
  12. SASavva25's Avatar
    Hi guys. Just wondering if anyone has listened to music on their Moto G? The reason why I ask is because I want to know if anyone is experiencing any problems with the mp3 files. On my S3 I had a lot of trouble with the music files as they were always 'stuttering' throughout the song and even the ones that played well to start with..over time began to 'stutter' during the track. One of the main reasons why I switch to iPhone as I have never experienced this problem. They played well in iTunes but whenever I transferred them to my S3 they seemed to not play very well. Is this due to the Software or Hardware? Is it the operating system which at the time was Jelly Bean 4.2? Has this been fixed? I only ask because I really like the Moto G and would trade in my iPhone 4S to get it
    12-24-2013 09:56 PM
  13. smartiekins's Avatar
    I have listed to my files through Google play music & not noticed any stuttering

    Sent from my XT1032 using Tapatalk
    12-29-2013 02:25 AM
  14. kieran walker1's Avatar
    How do I sideload apps like third party apps cause it just says "there was a problem parsing the package" helpp!!!
    12-29-2013 11:29 AM
  15. Sizzers's Avatar
    It's a known issue.

    Some people have found a solution by performing one - or more - factory resets, a route I'm not minded to go down at the moment. The workaround is to upload the app/s to Drive and install them from there.
    12-29-2013 01:43 PM
  16. Cosmin Anton's Avatar
    Hi guys, just got my Moto G and I've noticed something weird, when I look at the screen from an angle any other row of subpixels looks darker, like the screen has lower resolution, that is the horizontal rows when in the portret position. Anybody else noticed that?
    01-01-2014 06:32 AM
  17. Sizzers's Avatar
    Assuming you have an LCD TV at home you will get the same effect (try standing at the side of the TV or on the floor looking up).

    All screens have an optimum viewing angle, the ideal looking straight ahead down the middle. Depending upon the panel used - TV or phone - they will have varying viewing angles before the image deteriorates which obviously will be a lot less on a tiny phone screen. Never understood why they never made a plasma screen for mobile.....

    Edit: I meant the viewing angle will be a lot less on an LCD mobile panel....considerably.
    01-01-2014 06:51 AM
  18. Fruz's Avatar
    Is there anyway I can get the camera to stop flipping my front camera pictures.
    01-01-2014 10:36 AM
  19. Khitha's Avatar
    Yes, Greek is supported and it will work fine in Greece. In het settings menu language & input I can choose language to set the language to Dutch. In the long list of languages there's also one that reads: " Ελληνικά ", because I don't know the Greek language I looked the frase up in Google and it translated as New Greek. So I think it's save for me to say to you that yes Greek is one of the very many languages on the Motorola Moto G.
    There's no limitation like sim card origin with this phone.
    Just to make sure I'm letting you know that I bought the 16 Gb version and not the 8 Gb version, it's a great phone to use and it already got the update to android Kitkat.
    I wish you the best and wisdom in your choice for your new phone. With kind regards from the Netherlands.
    01-20-2014 03:46 PM
  20. stenk's Avatar
    Does the UK version of Moto G will work in Japan ?
    01-21-2014 06:59 AM
  21. Naimur Rahman's Avatar
    Hi, I'm a kid and my dads gonna buy me a new phone (yay) however I'm into tech a lot so I'm deciding between nexus 4 or moto g (size does not matter to me at all). As for price. I can buy the moto g new around 129-139 16gb and the Nexus 4 USED around 175-185 and NEW 210 16gb.

    NEXUS 4 :
    I'm drawn to the fact that the n4 has a better camera + 1080p recording, nfc (main thing for me) as well as the fact that it has a faster CPU and has a better GPU on paper. It also has a rgb notification led that can change colours unlike the moto g.

    MOTO G:
    However I'm also drawn to the Moto G as it has a better screen, better build quality, better speaker, better battery life, FASTER in REALWORLD PERFORMANCE and the fact that it supports USB OTG so I can expand memory via USB drive. It also has more cloud storage. Ive noticed through some vids of the moto g that the gps and the wifi is faster.

    I'm really In a puzzle of which phone to purchase. I'd really like to know which device is best for gaming too as this is pretty important to me. Thnx

    PLZ HELP!!!!
    02-01-2014 01:04 PM
  22. gtanner00's Avatar
    Hi, I'm a kid and my dads gonna buy me a new phone (yay) however I'm into tech a lot so I'm deciding between nexus 4 or moto g (size does not matter to me at all). As for price. I can buy the moto g new around 129-139 16gb and the Nexus 4 USED around 175-185 and NEW 210 16gb.

    NEXUS 4 :
    I'm drawn to the fact that the n4 has a better camera + 1080p recording, nfc (main thing for me) as well as the fact that it has a faster CPU and has a better GPU on paper. It also has a rgb notification led that can change colours unlike the moto g.

    MOTO G:
    However I'm also drawn to the Moto G as it has a better screen, better build quality, better speaker, better battery life, FASTER in REALWORLD PERFORMANCE and the fact that it supports USB OTG so I can expand memory via USB drive. It also has more cloud storage. Ive noticed through some vids of the moto g that the gps and the wifi is faster.

    I'm really In a puzzle of which phone to purchase. I'd really like to know which device is best for gaming too as this is pretty important to me. Thnx

    PLZ HELP!!!!
    I'd say as a nexus 4 owner (and potential moto g buyer for a friend) that you will get roughly the same same user experience out of each. The nexus 4 sure has a lot of life in it but it isn't necessarily the most carefully designed phone when you compare it to the moto g.

    The nexus 4 will get you places faster when playing games (this is mostly because of GPU not CPU) but the older generation of processors is less efficient so expect to have to charge up every day.

    The moto g seems to me like it will be very efficient and the battery drains at a much slower rate.

    With you being a big tech person, have you thought much about rooting and installing custom firmware? The nexus 4 has a huge community for this on xda being a nexus device and all (I have spent a lot of time tuning kernels and picking out the perfect rom and features.)

    That being said, the moto g offers some of that too. It is boot loader unlockable but will cost you your warranty. There is a limited supply of Roms (and one or two kernels) right now with no "official" cm support the last time I checked but that is likely to change for the better.

    Honestly if I had to choose between the 4 and the g right now I would have a hard time with it. You seem to be familiar with the small features of each NFC, camera, and processor, vs efficiency, USB otg (this may have been disabled in KitKat), and nice external design.

    If gaming and development is your priority then the beefier specs of the nexus will serve you well. You can do a lot with custom Roms, kernels, and xposed modules which will make it even more desirable. The nexus 4 may not get android updates 8 months from now but you will always be able to load custom firmware on it.

    Happy choosing.



    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
    02-01-2014 01:44 PM
  23. Naimur Rahman's Avatar
    I'd say as a nexus 4 owner (and potential moto g buyer for a friend) that you will get roughly the same same user experience out of each. The nexus 4 sure has a lot of life in it but it isn't necessarily the most carefully designed phone when you compare it to the moto g.

    The nexus 4 will get you places faster when playing games (this is mostly because of GPU not CPU) but the older generation of processors is less efficient so expect to have to charge up every day.

    The moto g seems to me like it will be very efficient and the battery drains at a much slower rate.

    With you being a big tech person, have you thought much about rooting and installing custom firmware? The nexus 4 has a huge community for this on xda being a nexus device and all (I have spent a lot of time tuning kernels and picking out the perfect rom and features.)

    That being said, the moto g offers some of that too. It is boot loader unlockable but will cost you your warranty. There is a limited supply of Roms (and one or two kernels) right now with no "official" cm support the last time I checked but that is likely to change for the better.

    Honestly if I had to choose between the 4 and the g right now I would have a hard time with it. You seem to be familiar with the small features of each NFC, camera, and processor, vs efficiency, USB otg (this may have been disabled in KitKat), and nice external design.

    If gaming and development is your priority then the beefier specs of the nexus will serve you well. You can do a lot with custom Roms, kernels, and xposed modules which will make it even more desirable. The nexus 4 may not get android updates 8 months from now but you will always be able to load custom firmware on it.

    Happy choosing.



    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
    Thanks so much, you made my decision a lot more clearer for me. I'll probably go for the nexus 4.

    BTW, USB OTG functionality on the Moto G kitkat update still works, well the drivers are there they are just disabled and can be enabled through apps like "nexus media importer" and "total commander". Oh, and I am pretty familiar with custom roms and kernals...thnx for asking.

    Once again thank you for your help, I appreciate it.😀😀😀

    Sent from my hp touchpad running CM11.2 nightly.
    02-02-2014 03:08 PM
  24. GravityMan's Avatar
    How to enable USB OTG on the Moto G?

    Sent from my XT1033 using Tapatalk
    02-02-2014 03:10 PM
  25. gtanner00's Avatar
    Thanks so much, you made my decision a lot more clearer for me. I'll probably go for the nexus 4.

    BTW, USB OTG functionality on the Moto G kitkat update still works, well the drivers are there they are just disabled and can be enabled through apps like "nexus media importer" and "total commander". Oh, and I am pretty familiar with custom roms and kernals...thnx for asking.

    Once again thank you for your help, I appreciate it.😀😀😀

    Sent from my hp touchpad running CM11.2 nightly.
    No problem. Im sure you'll be happy with what you can do with the nexus. I got mine for my 17th birthday and love it.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
    02-02-2014 03:10 PM
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