1. Alan Kaf's Avatar
    The Moto G4 & G4 Plus are missing LTE band 17 -- which in practically a necessity if you want to use it on AT&T in the U.S.

    The G4 Play has band 17. Very strange...
    06-29-2016 12:04 PM
  2. dpham00's Avatar
    It has band 12 which is a superset of band 17. Att broadcasts both band 12 and band 17. So you would be fine.
    06-30-2016 04:32 PM
  3. Old Stoneface's Avatar
    It has band 12 which is a superset of band 17. Att broadcasts both band 12 and band 17. So you would be fine.
    That is assuming band 12 remains enabled, and doesn't get Moto-G'd, as happened with the 2015 Moto models (and several other lower-end brands/models of phones) following their first update.
    07-01-2016 08:19 AM
  4. Ry's Avatar
    That is assuming band 12 remains enabled, and doesn't get Moto-G'd, as happened with the 2015 Moto models (and several other lower-end brands/models of phones) following their first update.
    Blame T-Mo.

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    07-02-2016 11:32 AM
  5. Old Stoneface's Avatar
    Blame T-Mo.
    *shrug* The pro-Moto crowd says "Blame TMO." The pro-TMO crowd says "Blame Lenovorola." In the end the consumer ends-up with a crippled device--often finding out only after the fact.

    Regardless of whom is to blame: My goal is simply to raise the possibility, so yet more Lenovorola/TMO customers don't unwittingly fall victim to whatever you call this.
    07-02-2016 11:40 AM
  6. Ry's Avatar
    *shrug* The pro-Moto crowd says "Blame TMO." The pro-TMO crowd says "Blame Lenovorola." In the end the consumer ends-up with a crippled device--often finding out only after the fact.

    Regardless of whom is to blame: My goal is simply to raise the possibility, so yet more Lenovorola/TMO customers don't unwittingly fall victim to whatever you call this.
    T-Mobile seems to be making it cost prohibitive for OEMs (not just Motorola and Lenovo) to be certified for VoLTE, thus Band 12 isn't supported or ends up getting removed.

    The workaround? Buy a recent T-Mobile-branded device.

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    07-02-2016 12:04 PM
  7. Old Stoneface's Avatar
    T-Mobile seems to be making it cost prohibitive for OEMs (not just Motorola and Lenovo) to be certified for VoLTE, thus Band 12 isn't supported or ends up getting removed.
    Or the makers of the less-expensive, low-to-midrange devices don't feel the return on investment is there. Hard to say which. I suspect a combination of the two, honestly.

    The workaround? Buy a recent T-Mobile-branded device.
    Yeahhhh... Nothing suspicious there, eh?

    If I like the next generation smaller Nexus, and I find it affordable, I'll be kissing both Lenovorola and TMO hasta la bugger-off.
    07-02-2016 06:04 PM
  8. stanleywinthrop's Avatar
    T-Mobile seems to be making it cost prohibitive for OEMs (not just Motorola and Lenovo) to be certified for VoLTE, thus Band 12 isn't supported or ends up getting removed.

    The workaround? Buy a recent T-Mobile-branded device.

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    Keen observation. IMO, Legere's goal has been to steer custmers into buying phones from T-Mobile stores.

    Point in fact: the 2015 pure has had tons of difficulty operating on tmobile VoLTE. But VoLTE works fine w Verizon.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-04-2016 03:53 PM

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