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The number of people that buy handsets at those prices is tiny.

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Exactly.

The price that matters to consumers is the price that they pay.

Most consumers pay the on-contract price. Full retail is nearly irrelevant.

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Exactly.

The price that matters to consumers is the price that they pay.

Most consumers pay the on-contract price. Full retail is nearly irrelevant.

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Even so, the One is $100 cheaper than the iPhone on contract and the N4 is $200 cheaper.

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But that's the real price of the phone. That's what should be compared.

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No it shouldn't. What should be compared is what consumers actually pay.

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Even so, the One is $100 cheaper than the iPhone on contract and the N4 is $200 cheaper.

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The nexus is available on one carrier, so that's a nonstarter.

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You can make a nexus device stutter easily. Just go into the app drawer and swipe through the apps until you get to the widget pages. Lag city.

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My Optimus G with Nova launcher does not lag doing this. The widget icons aren't drawn the first time through, but the animations/frame rates remain smooth


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My Optimus G with Nova launcher does not lag doing this. The widget icons aren't drawn the first time through, but the animations/frame rates remain smooth


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And the Optimus G is somehow a Nexus device?

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And the Optimus G is somehow a Nexus device?

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It is the exact same hardware as the Nexus 4. Are you saying that the manufacturer optimizations improve performance? I think it is more likely it is just a good graphics chip. And iOS devices also have good graphics performance because Apple has always pushed to get the most powerful graphics hardware available.

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It is the exact same hardware as the Nexus 4. Are you saying that the manufacturer optimizations improve performance? I think it is more likely it is just a good graphics chip. And iOS devices also have good graphics performance because Apple has always pushed to get the most powerful graphics hardware available.

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What he's saying has absolutely nothing to do with the hardware and everything to do with the software. A phone running nova launcher is not the same as a nexus running stock.

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You can make a nexus device stutter easily. Just go into the app drawer and swipe through the apps until you get to the widget pages. Lag city.

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Just tried it on my N4 using the stock launcher. I can honestly tell you that I experienced zero lag.

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Just tried it on my N4 using the stock launcher. I can honestly tell you that I experienced zero lag.

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Its done it for me on every nexus device I've used.

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What he's saying has absolutely nothing to do with the hardware and everything to do with the software.
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No. Neither LG nor the developer of Nova launcher has any kind of magical lag-killing software tweaks. The Nexus 4/Optimus G just has powerful hardware. This cannot be said of older Nexus devices.

1) Lag on older and/or low cost devices indicates a problem with Android's performance on older/low cost devices
2) A powerful new device can run Android perfectly fine whether it is a Nexus or not
3) Some of Samsung's features appear to hurt the GS4's performance

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No. Neither LG nor the developer of Nova launcher has any kind of magical lag-killing software tweaks. The Nexus 4/Optimus G just has powerful hardware. This cannot be said of older Nexus devices.

1) Lag on older and/or low cost devices indicates a problem with Android's performance on older/low cost devices
2) A powerful new device can run Android perfectly fine whether it is a Nexus or not
3) Some of Samsung's features appear to hurt the GS4's performance

Agreed?

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Curious -

Do you get the same results without Nova?

Are you saying the hardware on the Nexus 7 is old and irrelevant? It's the current Nexus 7" tablet.
 

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My Optimus G with Nova launcher does not lag doing this. The widget icons aren't drawn the first time through, but the animations/frame rates remain smooth


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And the Optimus G is somehow a Nexus device?

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The Galaxy Nexus is, and I have zero lag doing this (on Nova Launcher)
 

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No. Neither LG nor the developer of Nova launcher has any kind of magical lag-killing software tweaks. The Nexus 4/Optimus G just has powerful hardware. This cannot be said of older Nexus devices.

1) Lag on older and/or low cost devices indicates a problem with Android's performance on older/low cost devices
2) A powerful new device can run Android perfectly fine whether it is a Nexus or not
3) Some of Samsung's features appear to hurt the GS4's performance

Agreed?

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No. Not agreed at all. Android still lags on powerful hardware. Especially in a specific place like the widget drawer. Other launchers are irrelevant to the discussion.

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And back to the X phone..... Evleaks put out a post on twitter clarifying the model numbers......

To clarify: DROID Ultra=XT1080, DROID MAXX=XT1080M, DROID Mini=XT1030, and Moto X=XT1060

I am going to assume that the Droid phones were the leftovers in the pipeline, and the Moto X is the customizable brainchild of Google/Moto.
 

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I am going to laugh when there is absolutely nothing interesting about the fabled xphone. I guarantee it will be just a different variation of the upcoming droids that they will slap an x on.

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