07-16-2013 12:56 PM
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  1. Eaglemaniac's Avatar
    Tbh, if the rumored phone we have been hearing about comes specs and features that some have claimed it has, it would be a giant fail for google/Motorola. It's very underwhelming and can not compete with the big boys.
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    07-14-2013 12:34 AM
  2. nazem's Avatar
    Give the phone a chance, it hasn't even been announced yet. Plus hardware is only so much without the right software.

    Posted via Android Central App
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    07-14-2013 12:44 AM
  3. josearmz10789's Avatar
    Its not supposed to compete with the big guys. Its a midrange device aimed to those not looking to drop half a grand on a phone. Hopefully they release the full specs and price soon. If its a little less than the nexus 4 unlocked its might be a no brainer for many.

    Sent from my SPH-L720 using AC Forums mobile app
    07-14-2013 12:47 AM
  4. ne0ne's Avatar
    Think about it. Say it is a dual core 1.7ghz with 2gig of ram and a 720p display. Combine that with the rumored 4000mAh battery and you have a phone that will have great battery life. Adapt the OS to the hardware and it should be a very competitive mid range phone...

    I don't think everyone wants a phone on contact. If they make this reasonably priced I could see it doing very well.

    I love my one but I still look forward to seeing what this phone has to offer. May even get it as a backup

    Sent from my HTC One
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    07-14-2013 12:58 AM
  5. Aquila's Avatar
    07-14-2013 03:10 AM
  6. Aquila's Avatar
    Yeah, moto isn't trying to sell hardware on this one. They're trying to sell features. I agree we should look at it before determining if they succeeded or not.
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    07-14-2013 03:15 AM
  7. nazem's Avatar
    Think about it. Say it is a dual core 1.7ghz with 2gig of ram and a 720p display. Combine that with the rumored 4000mAh battery and you have a phone that will have great battery life. Adapt the OS to the hardware and it should be a very competitive mid range phone...

    I don't think everyone wants a phone on contact. If they make this reasonably priced I could see it doing very well.

    I love my one but I still look forward to seeing what this phone has to offer. May even get it as a backup

    Sent from my HTC One
    I agree with what you said but didn't motorola's CEO say that the Moto X wasn't gonna be one of the lower priced phone's at D11?
    07-14-2013 12:31 PM
  8. osubeavs728's Avatar
    Its going to be very funny when this "underwhelming" phone runs better, smoother, and has better battery life then some of the "big boys" but will have a good amount of features as well. One of the "big boys" has documented lag issues, so if the moto X gets along better then that phone, then what makes it underwhelming?

    These are all assumptions, we know nothing for sure until it's officially outed
    07-14-2013 05:27 PM
  9. slywalk's Avatar
    Think about it. Say it is a dual core 1.7ghz with 2gig of ram and a 720p display. Combine that with the rumored 4000mAh battery and you have a phone that will have great battery life. Adapt the OS to the hardware and it should be a very competitive mid range phone...

    I don't think everyone wants a phone on contact. If they make this reasonably priced I could see it doing very well.

    I love my one but I still look forward to seeing what this phone has to offer. May even get it as a backup

    Sent from my HTC One
    Sources on that 4000mah battery please? I don't mean to be a ****, i just haven't read that anywhere and if it's true,I'm psyched.
    07-14-2013 05:32 PM
  10. Aquila's Avatar
    I've seen rumors for 2100, but no 4000 except on this page.

    Transmitted through spacetime.
    07-14-2013 06:21 PM
  11. bunique4life05's Avatar
    I've seen rumors for 2100, but no 4000 except on this page.

    Transmitted through spacetime.
    Removable or Non Removable? The battery specification have not been to clear.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using AC Forums mobile app
    07-14-2013 06:38 PM
  12. ultravisitor's Avatar
    I agree with what you said but didn't motorola's CEO say that the Moto X wasn't gonna be one of the lower priced phone's at D11?
    Yes. I was actually reading that again this morning.
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    07-14-2013 06:39 PM
  13. Aquila's Avatar
    Removable or Non Removable? The battery specification have not been to clear.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using AC Forums mobile app
    I haven't seen anything that specified one way or the other. Based on recent Motorola devices I'd say not removable, but this isn't a typical recent Motorola device so who knows?
    07-14-2013 07:03 PM
  14. Ry's Avatar
    Tbh, if the rumored phone we have been hearing about comes specs and features that some have claimed it has, it would be a giant fail for google/Motorola. It's very underwhelming and can not compete with the big boys.
    How so?

    Posted via Android Central App
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    07-14-2013 07:06 PM
  15. Rule9's Avatar
    This latest leak, if true, means this phone just comes across as an average contender to me. Nothing impressed me as exceptional or innovative, but nothing struck me as being terrible either. I see this phone as a "nice/ok" phone for average folks. That's neither praise nor criticism, it's just my observation.

    What I do criticize is based on where I live - Canada. As a former owner of a Moto smartphone, I can testify that the customer support forums for NON-USA owners is riddled with very poor customer service complaints. If you're outside of the US, Moto's treatment of you, to be blunt, sucks balls. What I'm seeing now is what I've seen in the past from Motorola outside of the USA: carrier exclusivity. That set off an alarm with me. I'm also very concerned that Google never did restructure Motorola's infrastructure after they acquired the company, which means same old faces, and likely a lot of poor practices and habits continuing in the guts of the employee pool from the pre-buyout days.

    In fact, their support forums look exactly the same as they always have and their support staff are also the pre-buyout people. I don't think it's far fetched at all to assume that Google's management of Moto is likely pretty light and they've allowed them to conduct their affairs pretty much the same as they always have.

    Having been burnt once, and seeing some activity now that worries me, I'm going to take the ultra safe wait and see approach and watch Motorola's 2013 phones from the sidelines to see if they've mended their ways since the Google takeover.
    07-14-2013 07:14 PM
  16. Ry's Avatar
    This latest leak, if true, means this phone just comes across as an average contender to me. Nothing impressed me as exceptional or innovative, but nothing struck me as being terrible either. I see this phone as a "nice/ok" phone for average folks. That's neither praise nor criticism, it's just my observation.

    What I do criticize is based on where I live - Canada. As a former owner of a Moto smartphone, I can testify that the customer support forums for NON-USA owners is riddled with very poor customer service complaints. If you're outside of the US, Moto's treatment of you, to be blunt, sucks balls. What I'm seeing now is what I've seen in the past from Motorola outside of the USA: carrier exclusivity. That set off an alarm with me. I'm also very concerned that Google never did restructure Motorola's infrastructure after they acquired the company, which means same old faces, and likely a lot of poor practices and habits continuing in the guts of the employee pool from the pre-buyout days.

    In fact, their support forums look exactly the same as they always have and their support staff are also the pre-buyout people. I don't think it's far fetched at all to assume that Google's management of Moto is likely pretty light and they've allowed them to conduct their affairs pretty much the same as they always have.

    Having been burnt once, and seeing some activity now that worries me, I'm going to take the ultra safe wait and see approach and watch Motorola's 2013 phones from the sidelines to see if they've mended their ways since the Google takeover.
    Rogers is getting the X.

    AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon are all supposedly getting the X.

    More carriers will probably get the X. What was the last Motorola phone widely available to most/all carriers? The original (flip phone) RAZR?

    The Moto X will be ahead of old Moto upon release.

    Not sure why you need to take an ultra safe approach.

    The X is the halo/flagship for the new Motorola. Just like the One and GS4 for HTC and Samsung. Having a halo won't stop Motorola from making other devices, just like the One and GS4 haven't stopped HTC and Samsung from making other devices.

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    07-14-2013 07:22 PM
  17. Rule9's Avatar
    Not sure if you're aware of Canadian carriers Ry, but Bell is actually the largest of the big 3 carriers in Canada. You can see how any phone being exclusive to Rogers is more of a big deal to us than you make it out to be. Neither Samsung nor HTC seemed to have any problem at all getting their phones out to everyone up here. What's Moto's excuse?
    07-14-2013 07:26 PM
  18. Ry's Avatar
    Not sure if you're aware of Canadian carriers Ry, but Bell is actually the largest of the big 3 carriers in Canada. You can see how any phone being exclusive to Rogers is more of a big deal to us than you make it out to be. Neither Samsung nor HTC seemed to have any problem at all getting their phones out to everyone up here. What's Moto's excuse?
    So any leaks that say Bell isn't getting a variant of the Moto X?

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    07-14-2013 07:37 PM
  19. Rule9's Avatar
    So any leaks that say Bell isn't getting a variant of the Moto X?

    Posted via Android Central App
    The Rogers video clearly states the X is "coming exclusively to Rogers".
    07-14-2013 07:47 PM
  20. Ry's Avatar
    The Rogers video clearly states the X is "coming exclusively to Rogers".
    Whoa. Missed that line. Sorry Canada.

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    07-14-2013 07:55 PM
  21. Rule9's Avatar
    Whoa. Missed that line. Sorry Canada.

    Posted via Android Central App
    Yeah, I have a sinking feeling that Bell customers are totally S.O.L. for Moto phones this year. Looks like Rogers gobbled up exclusivity for the X, and given that whenever a phone is an exclusive to one carrier in the USA, then usually Rogers ends up being that carrier in Canada. So I expect the rumored Motorola Droid Ultra phone will also be Rogers only.

    Bell's biggest weak spot is variety. They primarily stick to the safe bets and always carry iPhones and Samsung phones, with a very light sprinkle of other OEM's. To be honest I was quite surprised they even carried the HTC One this year. The only reason I stick to Bell at all is that they have the largest service coverage in Canada, and I'm on a heavily discounted grandfathered plan.
    07-14-2013 08:01 PM
  22. ultravisitor's Avatar
    The only reason I stick to Bell at all is that they have the largest service coverage in Canada, and I'm on a heavily discounted grandfathered plan.
    That's how it is for a lot of Verizon customers, except Verizon is the carrier that gets the Motorola exclusives, for better or for worse. I wish the top Motorola devices would make it to other carriers here in the States because more people would appreciate their phones, but that unfortunately doesn't happen.
    07-14-2013 08:07 PM
  23. svfd757's Avatar
    Tbh, if the rumored phone we have been hearing about comes specs and features that some have claimed it has, it would be a giant fail for google/Motorola. It's very underwhelming and can not compete with the big boys.
    I am okay with less than super phone specs as long as it does not negatively impact the usefulness of the phone. Look at the new BlackBerry phones. They don't have monster specs, but what they do have is an operating system that works well with the internals to provide the customer with, in my opinion, the fastest most responsive U/I on the market. Go to a store and play with a BB10 device. You will not experience a bit of lag. How is this possible without monster specs? The operating system works well with the components, that's how. Give it a chance.
    07-15-2013 12:17 AM
  24. Rizz1-2's Avatar
    Tbh, if the rumored phone we have been hearing about comes specs and features that some have claimed it has, it would be a giant fail for google/Motorola. It's very underwhelming and can not compete with the big boys.
    Out of curiosity, what defines the "big boys"? Is it just latest and greatest internal specs?

    If they could release this phone without releasing specs, and it was blazing fast and super smooth, would it be considered a "big boy"?
    07-15-2013 10:41 AM
  25. mattopotamus's Avatar
    As others have said, if the hardware and software work great together the "specs" will be a non-issue. The only people who need these crazy quad and octa cores phones are people who game on their phones. The reason we still see lag is b.c poor software optimization. It will all depend on the off contract price of this phone. If they price it at the nexus level they will sell really well.
    07-15-2013 10:46 AM
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