07-29-2013 08:46 AM
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  1. clarker07's Avatar
    Lol there are some eternal optimists on here...
    And you, with the exact same lack of information as everyone else, are continually a pessimist. Neither mindset is wrong, especially for a product that isn't released.

    You can make the case for either pricing model.
    07-24-2013 12:02 PM
  2. osubeavs728's Avatar
    Why hasn't anyone even commented on what the thread was about? The biggest gripe I've seen people with about the the moto x was the "outdated dual core processor" but if the Op is correct and it has the same processor as the ultras, then the chip is not really outdated, or poised to be a slouch for that matter.
    Aquila, jbruha, jroc and 2 others like this.
    07-24-2013 09:16 PM
  3. Rizz1-2's Avatar
    Why hasn't anyone even commented on what the thread was about? The biggest gripe I've seen people with about the the moto x was the "outdated dual core processor" but if the Op is correct and it has the same processor as the ultras, then the chip is not really outdated, or poised to be a slouch for that matter.
    Yeah, is there any more information on if they are the same? I keep checking this thread but it has been off topic since the OP.
    07-25-2013 07:40 AM
  4. osubeavs728's Avatar
    Yeah, is there any more information on if they are the same? I keep checking this thread but it has been off topic since the OP.
    Not that I've seen, but it would make sense that Motorola would put their semi custom chip into both phones. Unless Google did some more tweaking to the one in the X.
    07-25-2013 10:02 AM
  5. Ry's Avatar
    Yeah, is there any more information on if they are the same? I keep checking this thread but it has been off topic since the OP.
    But people will still think it's outdated because it's not a Snapdragon 600 or 800.

    Do the new DROIDs use the same S4 Pro as the new Nexus 7? If so, that's a pretty huge order from Google & Motorola to Qualcomm.
    07-25-2013 10:23 AM
  6. drhill's Avatar
    High volume orders usually mean lower costs per unit.
    07-25-2013 10:27 AM
  7. Ry's Avatar
    High volume orders usually mean lower costs per unit.
    Plus the S4 Pro is relatively "older". Costs probably should have dropped for that reason too.
    07-25-2013 10:30 AM
  8. karn101's Avatar
    But people will still think it's outdated because it's not a Snapdragon 600 or 800.

    Do the new DROIDs use the same S4 Pro as the new Nexus 7? If so, that's a pretty huge order from Google & Motorola to Qualcomm.
    No, the new Nexus 7 is quad core. The Droids are dual cores.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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    07-25-2013 12:17 PM
  9. cgardnervt's Avatar
    I was looking at the Moto X as a backup phone as well. And seeing the fact that it has an old CPU I will just pass and get a NExus device. Either wait for the N5 (Or whatever it will be called) or order a N4 if need be. Moto drop the ball IMO and its sad because I wanted a lower budget phone. I would have been ok with a Snapdragon 600 CPU but its not the case. Oh well it just will not work for me. For the people who do buy it then awesome! Let us know how it is it just wont work for me personally. I want better specs and I'm willing to spend the money on it.
    07-25-2013 12:26 PM
  10. karn101's Avatar
    I was looking at the Moto X as a backup phone as well. And seeing the fact that it has an old CPU I will just pass and get a NExus device. Either wait for the N5 (Or whatever it will be called) or order a N4 if need be. Moto drop the ball IMO and its sad because I wanted a lower budget phone. I would have been ok with a Snapdragon 600 CPU but its not the case. Oh well it just will not work for me. For the people who do buy it then awesome! Let us know how it is it just wont work for me personally. I want better specs and I'm willing to spend the money on it.
    The Moto X is pulling better benchmarks than the N4. I wouldn't dismiss it yet, let's just all wait until it's officially announced. I'm on Verizon, so the Moto X is my closest option to AOSP after the GNex. For you guys on GSM networks, I envy you.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
    07-25-2013 12:33 PM
  11. cgardnervt's Avatar
    The Moto X is pulling better benchmarks than the N4. I wouldn't dismiss it yet, let's just all wait until it's officially announced. I'm on Verizon, so the Moto X is my closest option to AOSP after the GNex. For you guys on GSM networks, I envy you.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
    Oh I know its not official yet. But as it currently stands I would pass. If I'm wrong and eat my words I would order one. Att is my network of choice currently. So I guess my options are a little bit more open than yours. However your right. The Moto X will be your closest choice to Vanilla as it currently stands.
    07-25-2013 12:35 PM
  12. Ry's Avatar
    The Moto X is pulling better benchmarks than the N4. I wouldn't dismiss it yet, let's just all wait until it's officially announced. I'm on Verizon, so the Moto X is my closest option to AOSP after the GNex. For you guys on GSM networks, I envy you.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
    Your closest option would be the new second gen Verizon LTE-capable Nexus 7.
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    07-25-2013 12:42 PM
  13. cgardnervt's Avatar
    Your closest option would be the new second gen Verizon LTE-capable Nexus 7.
    Lol good call Ry! :P
    07-25-2013 01:19 PM
  14. osubeavs728's Avatar
    I was looking at the Moto X as a backup phone as well. And seeing the fact that it has an old CPU I will just pass and get a NExus device. Either wait for the N5 (Or whatever it will be called) or order a N4 if need be. Moto drop the ball IMO and its sad because I wanted a lower budget phone. I would have been ok with a Snapdragon 600 CPU but its not the case. Oh well it just will not work for me. For the people who do buy it then awesome! Let us know how it is it just wont work for me personally. I want better specs and I'm willing to spend the money on it.

    I don't get it, you think the the processor in the X and Ultras is "outdated" so you won't buy it...But yet you are willing to buy a N4 that has the processor that the X/ultra processors were based off of?
    07-25-2013 03:49 PM
  15. ttenpas's Avatar
    I was looking at the Moto X as a backup phone as well. And seeing the fact that it has an old CPU I will just pass and get a NExus device. Either wait for the N5 (Or whatever it will be called) or order a N4 if need be. Moto drop the ball IMO and its sad because I wanted a lower budget phone. I would have been ok with a Snapdragon 600 CPU but its not the case. Oh well it just will not work for me. For the people who do buy it then awesome! Let us know how it is it just wont work for me personally. I want better specs and I'm willing to spend the money on it.
    So, are you looking for a budget phone, or are you looking to spend more money on a higher end device?
    Ry, KWKSLVR, phathands and 3 others like this.
    07-25-2013 04:08 PM
  16. KWKSLVR's Avatar
    Everybody wants something for nothing indeed. How unsurprising!
    07-25-2013 05:14 PM
  17. Rule9's Avatar
    well since everyone is purely guessing, I'll throw one in: I'm betting the chip is going to be the same downclocked s600 that's in the newest nexus 7. That chip is also being called an S4 Pro. The new Nexus 7 motherboard has a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 APQ8064-1AA chipset, which as it turns out is a downclocked Snapdragon 600 chipset four Krait 300 cores (rather than Krait 200) at 1.5Ghz and Adreno 320. My guess is the leaks will turn out to be this chip but at 1.7Ghz dual core. RAM will be same as N7 as well: 2GB lpddr3 ram.
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    07-28-2013 10:15 AM
  18. karn101's Avatar
    The important part is the part that says the prices is expected to be comparable to those devices. $99 on contract and $299 off is absolutely NOT comparable pricing. No, there's no exact price, but there's enough info there that would debunk this crazy "Motorola is gonna sell this device at a cost because they can totally afford to do that with their plummeting revenue!" rumor.
    well since everyone is purely guessing, I'll throw one in: I'm betting the chip is going to be the same downclocked s600 that's in the newest nexus 7. That chip is also being called an S4 Pro. The new Nexus 7 motherboard has a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 APQ8064-1AA chipset, which as it turns out is a downclocked Snapdragon 600 chipset four Krait 300 cores (rather than Krait 200) at 1.5Ghz and Adreno 320. My guess is the leaks will turn out to be this chip but at 1.7Ghz dual core. RAM will be same as N7 as well: 2GB lpddr3 ram.
    They aren't pure guesses. The specs for the Moto X are already out there from multiple sources. We're just waiting to see what features they'll announce and at what price.
    07-28-2013 07:58 PM
  19. Rule9's Avatar
    They aren't pure guesses. The specs for the Moto X are already out there from multiple sources. We're just waiting to see what features they'll announce and at what price.
    how about "unconfirmed guesses" then? Since I see we're being technical.
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    07-28-2013 08:19 PM
  20. osubeavs728's Avatar
    They aren't pure guesses. The specs for the Moto X are already out there from multiple sources. We're just waiting to see what features they'll announce and at what price.
    When has there been word from Motorola or Google about what exact specs are going to be on the moto X? Because they're the only people who can say absolutely what the specs are. Everyone else is just guessing
    07-28-2013 10:16 PM
  21. karn101's Avatar
    how about "unconfirmed guesses" then? Since I see we're being technical.
    When has there been word from Motorola or Google about what exact specs are going to be on the moto X? Because they're the only people who can say absolutely what the specs are. Everyone else is just guessing
    I never said they were. I said they weren't pure guesses, since the post I responded to said "since everyone is purely guessing", that's what I responded to.

    Definition of a guess:

    a. To predict (a result or an event) without sufficient information.
    b. To assume, presume, or assert (a fact) without sufficient information.

    People who have the Moto X have already leaked what processor it has. You can see it by watching the various videos that have been posted. You'll see that its processor is listed as the
    MSM8960DT (the D probably entered because of the customization Motorola did). That processor is also in the Droid Ultra and Maxx.

    The MSM8960T benchmarks and specifications can be seen here (1.7ghz // dual core // Adreno 320):
    Performance Review of Qualcomm MSM8960T - News - AnTuTu Benchmark -- Know Your Android Better

    More (reasonable) proof that it runs that chip?
    Here's benchmarks ran from the Moto X. Note the MODEL number (XT1058). Note the processor.
    Motorola XT1058 performance in GFXBench

    That model number is for the Moto X. These are its variants.
    XT1060 (Verizon), XT1058 (AT&T), XT1056 (Sprint), XT1055 (US Cellular), XT1053 (T-Mobile)

    I would hardly say that the general assumption (yes, I know) of what processor the Moto X will be revealed with is just a *guess*. It's more of an inference. I've never said these are the absolute final specs the phone will be revealed with, but my previous post was simply in reply to the poster stating we were all making *guesses*. That's it.

    And after writing all this I realized how unnecessary it was. Oh internet, sometimes you get the best of me.
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    07-28-2013 11:29 PM
  22. Rule9's Avatar
    I never said they were. I said they weren't pure guesses, since the post I responded to said "since everyone is purely guessing", that's what I responded to.

    Definition of a guess:

    a. To predict (a result or an event) without sufficient information.
    b. To assume, presume, or assert (a fact) without sufficient information.

    People who have the Moto X have already leaked what processor it has. You can see it by watching the various videos that have been posted. You'll see that its processor is listed as the
    MSM8960DT (the D probably entered because of the customization Motorola did). That processor is also in the Droid Ultra and Maxx.

    The MSM8960T benchmarks and specifications can be seen here (1.7ghz // dual core // Adreno 320):
    Performance Review of Qualcomm MSM8960T - News - AnTuTu Benchmark -- Know Your Android Better

    More (reasonable) proof that it runs that chip?
    Here's benchmarks ran from the Moto X. Note the MODEL number (XT1058). Note the processor.
    Motorola XT1058 performance in GFXBench

    That model number is for the Moto X. These are its variants.
    XT1060 (Verizon), XT1058 (AT&T), XT1056 (Sprint), XT1055 (US Cellular), XT1053 (T-Mobile)

    I would hardly say that the general assumption (yes, I know) of what processor the Moto X will be revealed with is just a *guess*. It's more of an inference. I've never said these are the absolute final specs the phone will be revealed with, but my previous post was simply in reply to the poster stating we were all making *guesses*. That's it.

    And after writing all this I realized how unnecessary it was. Oh internet, sometimes you get the best of me.
    How about...

    peanut butter guesses?
    BBQ inferences!
    orange guesses?
    watery hazards
    hot ventures
    portable approximations...
    quantum entanglement speculations?
    07-29-2013 08:46 AM
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