08-05-2013 10:41 PM
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  1. vferrari's Avatar
    No. That's what you said. And honestly, what's with the attitude? If you want to use a case, then use one. How or why does my case-less phone threaten you that you need to roll your eyes?

    I don't like cases because I don't like adding bulk to my phone. My Galaxy Nexus is very plainly colored, and I'm fine with it. I think it looks attractive as is.

    The customizable colors are appealing because it's an opportunity to have a phone that comes in colors specifically geared toward my taste, and I can have that without adding ANY bulk to my phone.

    Not using cases and having a somewhat uniquely-colored phone are mutually exclusive to me.
    You are right, my conclusion was invalid. I was overreacting to posts that took one aspect of my post (a perhaps misguided conclusion that most people use cases) that I was using to make a more general point regarding the main selling point of the Moto X appears to be cover customization, which seemed to me to be a thin selling point since most people use covers. It seemed to me people were trying to make the point that the underlying basis for my statement was false (i.e., me, me, me) without addressing my more general point. I apparently mistook that response for people trying to defend what I considered a flawed marketing approach (cover customization). I guess I was wrong, and you guys set me straight. So much for jumping to conclusions. Grandma and I will take our car bras home now (wish grandma wouldn't wear one, though).

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    08-04-2013 06:15 PM
  2. vferrari's Avatar
    You asked a simple question, and I delivered a simple answer. You didn't like my answer and issued a demeaning reply that was both illogical and irrelevant. Excuse me if I don't feel sorry for responding in kind.

    I know plenty of people who use phone cases for the same reasons you suggest. Personally, I've never understood the purpose behind covering up a beautifully designed phone with a plastic shell that is usually decidedly less so. It's neither creative nor attractive. The same goes for car bras, laptop covers, people who leave the plastic covers on their digital cameras, and grandmas who insists on wrapping her furniture in cling film.

    This phone, in my eyes, was designed to look and feel beautiful in your hand...by itself. If I buy one, I would like to enjoy it as such. You're welcome to buy your protective case if it suits your needs (which I understand completely), but don't turn your nose up at others who don't just because you're insecure and less-than-sure-handed.

    Do what you want. It's not that big of a deal.
    My original point/comment was directed at Motorola's marketing pitch and whether it would reasonate with the masses. Since at least three people felt compelled to let me know they don't use covers on their phones, I took that to mean you all felt my point was invalid and I simply jumped to the conclusion that you all were down with the Moto X customization thing and were going to get them. Call me insecure and less-than-sure-handed if you want, but I honestly couldn't care less whether people use covers or not, so I was not turning my nose up at anyone (just as you weren't doing so to those with less "creative and attractive" habits such as rocking car bras, laptop covers, digital camera plastic covers, and grandmas and cling film). If I copped an attitude, it was probably due to the fact that all I was getting was "Hey I don't use one" and nobody directly addressed whether I had a valid point re: moto's marketing strategy. Just wanted to get that out there. Thanks for listening.

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    08-04-2013 06:38 PM
  3. spawndoodling's Avatar
    My original point/comment was directed at Motorola's marketing pitch and whether it would reasonate with the masses. Since at least three people felt compelled to let me know they don't use covers on their phones, I took that to mean you all felt my point was invalid and I simply jumped to the conclusion that you all were down with the Moto X customization thing and were going to get them. Call me insecure and less-than-sure-handed if you want, but I honestly couldn't care less whether people use covers or not, so I was not turning my nose up at anyone (just as you weren't doing so to those with less "creative and attractive" habits such as rocking car bras, laptop covers, digital camera plastic covers, and grandmas and cling film). If I copped an attitude, it was probably due to the fact that all I was getting was "Hey I don't use one" and nobody directly addressed whether I had a valid point re: moto's marketing strategy. Just wanted to get that out there. Thanks for listening.

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    I felt the same way when this "customization" stuff started floating. Is it really going to make a difference? Sure, the wood grain textures are awesome, but I was indifferent about whether this would be the 'game changer' Google and Moto envisioned it. The very fact that you have to stick to the phone you order, that cases and different parts are not interchangeable, was actually baffling to me. The very fact that only one carrier will offer this feature at launch is equally confusing. And to top it off, the fact that the phone offers no water resistance, waterproofing, and/or shock/drop resistance makes me skeptical. Many people may not have a case, but they've chosen to do so understanding the risks of dropping their phone and damaging it. Many others have chosen not to take that risk. Motorola is potentially closing out a good segment of buyers who may look at the X and say, "I love the customization option, but what's the point of a lovely wood grain texture if it's going to be hidden beneath an Otterbox case?"

    I think the real point is, if Motorola and Google are really trying to make the X a volume seller, something that brings in Galaxy-esque sales and becomes more than a decent product, why aren't they considering the masses? They would have been smarter to skip the whole customization romp and build different editions of the X with different texture choices. For example, one with a wood finish, another black metal version, and maybe a more rugged version. Because a good portion of X buyers are never going to see their customization when the case goes on top of it. And knowing they can get new cases witg different colors whenever they want, but can't do the same with their so called customizable phone, many may just skip customization altogether and get the phone in black/white or another phone altogether.

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    08-04-2013 07:13 PM
  4. SteelGator's Avatar
    I felt the same way when this "customization" stuff started floating. Is it really going to make a difference? Sure, the wood grain textures are awesome, but I was indifferent about whether this would be the 'game changer' Google and Moto envisioned it. The very fact that you have to stick to the phone you order, that cases and different parts are not interchangeable, was actually baffling to me.
    I wonder what percentage of the population uses a case. I don't. I hate them. They add bulk that I don't want, and rarely make the phone look better. I will be a top quality screen protector on it, but that is it.

    I have to believe that Moto did extensive market research, and they believe the market exists. Either way, it is an interesting marketing problem, and I look forward to watching it play out.
    08-04-2013 07:21 PM
  5. Lanzeelus's Avatar


    Look at 0:32

    Motorola sells transparent cases as an add-on. You can have the best of both worlds.
    08-04-2013 10:32 PM
  6. ultravisitor's Avatar
    And to top it off, the fact that the phone offers no water resistance, waterproofing, and/or shock/drop resistance makes me skeptical.
    Slight correction: I've read in numerous sources that the Moto X does have the nano coating for water resistance (externally and internally) that the Droid phones also receive.
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    08-05-2013 01:53 AM
  7. KDogg241's Avatar
    I wonder what percentage of the population uses a case. I don't. I hate them. They add bulk that I don't want, and rarely make the phone look better. I will be a top quality screen protector on it, but that is it.

    I have to believe that Moto did extensive market research, and they believe the market exists. Either way, it is an interesting marketing problem, and I look forward to watching it play out.
    I would bet that there are plenty of people out there who will use Motomaker to design their perfect phone and throw an Otterbox Defender on it as soon as it shows up at the door. Not saying it's right or wrong, just that there will be more of a market than non-case users. People won't want to scratch up their pretty new phone, even if they can't see it.
    08-05-2013 09:08 AM
  8. SteelGator's Avatar
    I would bet that there are plenty of people out there who will use Motomaker to design their perfect phone and throw an Otterbox Defender on it as soon as it shows up at the door. Not saying it's right or wrong, just that there will be more of a market than non-case users. People won't want to scratch up their pretty new phone, even if they can't see it.
    +1
    That is so true.
    08-05-2013 10:13 AM
  9. spawndoodling's Avatar
    Slight correction: I've read in numerous sources that the Moto X does have the nano coating for water resistance (externally and internally) that the Droid phones also receive.
    Ooh, I stand corrected then on that point.

    On a slightly unrelated note, wouldn't it have been cool for Moto or another manufacturer to team up with Otterbox for a phone? Rugged, waterproof, all the bells and whistles that come with an Otter box case on a phone. From a marketing perspective, I think that partnership could thrive if the phone's not **** ugly. I know we are probably headed in this direction anyways with Sony, Samsung, and (now) Motorola doing water resistance, but I can't wait till we have full feature phones that don't sacrifice design for ruggedness. Obviously still a niche product but in my opinion, a smart idea no less. (I may be a minority in this domain, though - I always have a million things in my hand and drop things nonstop, so I didn't even bother using my GS3 without an Otter box - not that I'm really sacrificing anything in terms of design or aesthetics by doing so)

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    08-05-2013 09:29 PM
  10. tdizzel's Avatar
    It seemed to me people were trying to make the point that the underlying basis for my statement was false (i.e., me, me, me) without addressing my more general point.
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    08-05-2013 10:39 PM
  11. tdizzel's Avatar
    Has anybody seen any Moto X commercials on TV yet? I haven't but I didn't watch any TV over the weekend. I ask because today I've seen commercials for Droids 7 or 8 times on 3 different networks but have yet to see a commercial for the X.
    08-05-2013 10:41 PM
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