No, not the specific processor. But they want the latest and greatest. It could be iPhone, etc. Bottom line is that the competition is the high end of the market at that price.
This thing costs approx $225 to make (in parts), which is the exact same range as the S4 and HTC One, and slightly higher than the iPhone (highest priced of them all retail). These prices exclude development, etc. and incidentally are the same costs as the Nexus 4. The Nexus did not use cheap parts, nor does this. The Nexus pricing is a subsidy, not a compromise on the device. There is no attempt to over charge. That is what they're trying to convey. This is not a "mid-range" device in any way except maybe the screen, compared to the S4 and One.
Just out of curiosity, where was it officially post how much the phone costs in parts?
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Just out of curiosity, where was it officially post how much the phone costs in parts?
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90% of people put a case on their phone so the customized backs are just a gimmick.
90% of people put a case on their phone so the customized backs are just a gimmick.
Right. And why do you have that opinion? How did you arrive there? It seems to me that an opinion like that would have to be based on the assumption that it might not perform on par with the competition. Is that the case in how you formed your opinion? I mean, otherwise, how would you know? And if you're one to look at benchmarks, then the performance preview at Ars Technica shows it outperforming the GS4 in some capacities. So...?
I'm not being combative here. I'm just asking questions.
No, they can always introduce a REAL phone. This is what $12 Billion dollars bought Google, it certainly wasn't the patents since they suck wind in court rulings. I wanted a high end phone something to get other OEM's off their butts but not this joke. I could have lived with 720p but not the old processor, or the lack of storage, no F'in way.
If you're going to charge me for cutting edge technology, put the technology in my phone. If you're not going to, don't charge me the same price.
to sell a phone that is way, way overpriced to a population that doesn't know any better.
They've insulted my intelligence
I expect a phone to be priced accordingly to the components inside of it.
In my OPINION, it's overpriced because it's using a smaller battery, a smaller screen, an older processor (with newer GPU's admittedly), doesn't have the extra addons like the Stylus of the Note 2, the IR blaster of the S4, etc.
I'm sorry my opinion doesn't make sense to you.
NothingIsTrue, before I reply to anything else you've said, I'm going to ask you once again...please post a link from a reputable component/teardown site that details the cost of the Moto X.
NothingIsTrue, before I reply to anything else you've said, I'm going to ask you once again...please post a link from a reputable component/teardown site that details the cost of the Moto X.
You've asked this, and it's been answered. My opinion isn't based on performance, benchmarks (which are probably the biggest BS around- see Samsung's recent drama with boosting benchmark scores), or any articles written by tech sites which are given phones for free to review. I don't even need to touch the X to know that it's going to be zippy, and it's going to run everything I want it to without a problem. I know the screen is going to look good, and I'm sure the battery is going to last a good party of a day. This is pretty much a given with any name brand-maker phone produced in the past 2 years now. I'm not bashing the phone. My first Android phone was the Droid, then the Droid X and X2, and I just recently switched over to Samsung with the S3 (with a few phones thrown in between that I got rid of before contract). I'm a Moto lover. They've always had, bar none, the best reception of any phone on the market, and their build quality was bullet-proof. The two biggest drawbacks Moto has always had were that the camera always sucked, and the battery always sucked (except for the Maxx, I hear). I digress, though. My point is that I don't dislike the phone. I hope it succeeds. In my OPINION, it's overpriced because it's using a smaller battery, a smaller screen, an older processor (with newer GPU's admittedly), doesn't have the extra addons like the Stylus of the Note 2, the IR blaster of the S4, etc. These little changes in components equal dollar savings, which is completely acceptable and expected in capitalism. I buy my phone off contract, because I am not going to lose unlimited until Verizon pulls the plug, and then I'm going to pull the plug on Verizon, thankfully, at last. I expect a phone to be priced accordingly to the components inside of it. In a month, there is going to be a phone sporting the S800, and it's going to sell for the same price as the Moto X. Now let me stop you before you even begin typing a response- I don't CARE about the processor, the speed, the cores, etc., as long as it's quick enough to do what I want. What I care about is charging me, the consumer, according to what you're putting in the device. If you're going to charge me for cutting edge technology, put the technology in my phone. If you're not going to, don't charge me the same price. I'm sorry my opinion doesn't make sense to you. You probably still think I care about cores, and speed, or some other stupid stuff, and will never understand the stand on principle that I'm making. I look at this as an Apple type phone debut by Moto- putting a bunch of fancy terms like "proprietary SOC" and "innovating features" and "optimized software" into an ad campaign to sell a phone that is way, way overpriced to a population that doesn't know any better. They've insulted my intelligence, and therefore, regardless of how much I want Moto or the X (which again, looks great) to succeed, I'm going to pass on this phone (edited to add: until the price comes down to a reasonable level). I'm not going to waste another moment replying to you about this, so take this answer for what you will.
This is the best, most sensible response yet. The phone looks great, but based on smartphone pricing at this time you aren't getting the cutting edge technology you are being charged for and that is what the "android geeks" are up in arms about.
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No, they can always introduce a REAL phone. This is what $12 Billion dollars bought Google, it certainly wasn't the patents since they suck wind in court rulings. I wanted a high end phone something to get other OEM's off their butts but not this joke. I could have lived with 720p but not the old processor, or the lack of storage, no F'in way.
This is the best, most sensible response yet. The phone looks great, but based on smartphone pricing at this time you aren't getting the cutting edge technology you are being charged for and that is what the "android geeks" are up in arms about.
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But you're getting technology that's far more cutting edge than what's being used on the phone in your signature. Nobody knows how this will work out for Moto, it may fail, it may even catch fire in a week, but it's something far more advanced than anyone else has done so far.