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  1. JHBThree's Avatar
    What did I expect? Anything other than this. This is a joke.

    I expected stock Android at a reasonable price. Instead we got bloatware at a high-end price.
    You know what they say when you assume things...

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    08-05-2013 02:31 AM
  2. JHBThree's Avatar
    I'm aware... My point was who cares... the X doesn't have 1 redeeming feature that isn't available elsewhere for the same/similar price. The X was "supposed" to be a low priced phone that did everything really well (but perhaps not much amazingly well). The X still might do everything really well but it isn't at a low price. So that being said, unless you're OBSESSED with customization there isn't a reason to get an X for the sole reason (assuming it runs/reviews well) that is was priced horribly...
    The x wasn't 'supposed' to be anything. Fanboys got it in their head that this was going to be a cheap phone, when there was absolutely nothing anywhere to support that idea.

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    08-05-2013 02:33 AM
  3. JHBThree's Avatar
    Oh, I thought you were starting a support group!

    I wasn't let down either, and not surprised. I am disappointed that they're using mid-range display, storage and processor - but selling it at flagship prices.

    Seriously, who buys this over an S4 or One?

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    The processor is not mid range. It is a snapdragon 600 with half its cores chopped off. In benchmarks, it bests the S4 pro quad core.

    If Samsung and HTC could get away with powering their 1080p screens with a dual core, they would. But those screens require too much power for that to be possible.

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    08-05-2013 02:36 AM
  4. briankariu's Avatar
    The processor is not mid range. It is a snapdragon 600 with half its cores chopped off. In benchmarks, it bests the S4 pro quad core.

    If Samsung and HTC could get away with powering their 1080p screens with a dual core, they would. But those screens require too much power for that to be possible.

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    No it does not.
    Moto X preview: A Google phone assembled with you, the user, in mind
    08-05-2013 04:38 AM
  5. anon(5982890)'s Avatar
    The processor is not mid range. It is a snapdragon 600 with half its cores chopped off. In benchmarks, it bests the S4 pro quad core.

    If Samsung and HTC could get away with powering their 1080p screens with a dual core, they would. But those screens require too much power for that to be possible.

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    If you ran those chips with a screen that was the same resolution as the Moto X, they would rape this phone.
    08-05-2013 07:21 AM
  6. roadkizzle's Avatar
    If you ran those chips with a screen that was the same resolution as the Moto X, they would rape this phone.
    But they're not, so that comment is a moot point. The only thing your comment means is that Motorola understands what is actually important to make a useful phone than the competition.
    08-05-2013 07:29 AM
  7. Aquila's Avatar
    If you ran those chips with a screen that was the same resolution as the Moto X, they would rape this phone.
    Maybe, perhaps probably... But that's not what anyone built.

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    08-05-2013 07:31 AM
  8. Honestabebread's Avatar
    If you ran those chips with a screen that was the same resolution as the Moto X, they would rape this phone.
    That's irrelevant. The fact of the matter is the Moto X runs just as well as the other top dogs because Moto took the time to optimize everything to achieve great performance and battery life.

    In my opinion that R&D is just as valuable as taking the easy way out and slapping in a Snapdragon 600 or 800 because that's "the market standard."

    As far as the screen goes, the Note 2 looks gorgeous with 5.5" at 720p. The Moto X should be fine with the same resolution and the same RGB arrangement at 4.7".

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    08-05-2013 07:35 AM
  9. anon(5982890)'s Avatar
    But they're not, so that comment is a moot point. The only thing your comment means is that Motorola understands what is actually important to make a useful phone than the competition.
    Just like benchmarking a video card for a computer, you cannot compare the two unless they are setup with the same environmental variables.

    This is like saying a 5 year video card is better than a modern one because it can play Half Life at 140FPS on an 800x600 resolution, while the new one only plays the game at 80FPS on a 1600x1200 resolution.......they're not comparable at different resolutions.
    08-05-2013 08:08 AM
  10. JungleLarry's Avatar
    Just like benchmarking a video card for a computer, you cannot compare the two unless they are setup with the same environmental variables.

    This is like saying a 5 year video card is better than a modern one because it can play Half Life at 140FPS on an 800x600 resolution, while the new one only plays the game at 80FPS on a 1600x1200 resolution.......they're not comparable at different resolutions.
    But I'm not interested in individual components. I'm interested in how they come together to provide a rich user experience.
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    08-05-2013 09:48 AM
  11. fierro951's Avatar
    For the love of god...how about waiting till the dust settles and we see how well it ACTUALLY PERFORMS?

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    This guy....

    makes perfect sense!

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    08-05-2013 11:05 AM
  12. Pollster's Avatar
    There is that still lingering question. When will we actually see this thing and get to check out how it performs. I believe that's the only thing I'm disappointed in. Motorola have not learned their Apple lesson yet. Announce the thing and have it available within two weeks.

    I thought after the Chromecast launch, which was handled brilliantly, Google was on this. Release what you announce right away and have enough stock to fill orders.
    Why announce if you don't even know when it's available?
    08-05-2013 12:01 PM
  13. tech_head's Avatar
    Actually the GPU which drives the screen *IS* the same.
    It's just two less ARM cores that they replaced with two application specific processors.

    If you look at the benchmarks for processing video via the HDMI, the performance is the same.
    The device FPS is higher because the screen is lower resolution.

    Anyway, the GPU is the same so let's stop debating GPU and video performance.
    08-05-2013 12:12 PM
  14. JHBThree's Avatar
    Yes, it does.

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    08-05-2013 03:36 PM
  15. JHBThree's Avatar
    If you ran those chips with a screen that was the same resolution as the Moto X, they would rape this phone.
    I'm talking about off screen tests that ignore the resolution.

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    08-05-2013 03:37 PM
  16. philly's Avatar
    But they're not, so that comment is a moot point. The only thing your comment means is that Motorola understands what is actually important to make a useful phone than the competition.
    I have given Motorola the benefit of the doubt because I thought they put all their focus into battery life.. and then I read the moto x reviews today only to realize the phone has barely average battery life.
    08-05-2013 04:36 PM
  17. Aquila's Avatar
    I have given Motorola the benefit of the doubt because I thought they put all their focus into battery life.. and then I read the moto x reviews today only to realize the phone has barely average battery life.
    What? I'm seeing great battery life, who is showing barely average?

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    08-05-2013 04:42 PM
  18. roadkizzle's Avatar
    So far, out of the 5 or 6 reviews I've seen today, only Laptop Mag I've seen say that the battery life is about average.

    Many other reviews have stated the phone getting easily 24-26 hours with very heavy use.
    08-05-2013 05:46 PM
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