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  1. Farish's Avatar
    I think Phil ditched us. So I think there is no use in asking questions when there is no one there to answer them.

    A wise man once said. This is one small step for ios and one giant leap for android.
    It is the weekend, he maybe enjoying it.
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    08-03-2013 05:39 PM
  2. ultravisitor's Avatar
    I think Phil ditched us.
    I think he has a family whom he perhaps might want to spend some time with.

    Imagine that.
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    08-03-2013 05:53 PM
  3. tdizzel's Avatar
    How can they sell it on customization when only one Carrier can do it??? Google doesn't know how to sell phones. Pretty disgusted over this as well. They should take a lesson from Samsung and Apple on how to send a phone to market, all Carriers all at once with all versions. The amount of money AT&T gave Motorola/Google is not nearly enough compared to the amount of sales they will loose over the few months or whatever time length they gave AT&T their exclusive for. By that time people will loose interest, other phones will be released including the new iPhone and that will be the end of this experiment called customization only because they screwed up big time. It could have been great but it just sucks.
    I can't put into words how much I agree with this. People are gonna have a bad taste in their mouth over this and moto will suffer for quite a while unless they have some miracle phone up their sleeves.
    08-03-2013 06:48 PM
  4. ser_solace's Avatar
    I can't put into words how much I agree with this. People are gonna have a bad taste in their mouth over this and moto will suffer for quite a while unless they have some miracle phone up their sleeves.
    Yeah, I agree too. No one will care enough a few months down the road when that carrier exclusive BS ends. By then the specs will be even more outclassed regardless of how nice the design is.

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    08-03-2013 08:49 PM
  5. Farish's Avatar
    I can't put into words how much I agree with this. People are gonna have a bad taste in their mouth over this and moto will suffer for quite a while unless they have some miracle phone up their sleeves.
    Sure if these forums really had any pull, Apple would be the worst smartphone selling company and Google would be making everybody Nexus devices and ignoring all the oems.
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    08-03-2013 08:52 PM
  6. tdizzel's Avatar
    Sure if these forums really had any pull, Apple would be the worst smartphone selling company and Google would be making everybody Nexus devices and ignoring all the oems.
    When was the last time Apple released a new iPhone, said it was gonna be on every carrier, really pushed certain features of it, but then said those features will only be available on iPhones from 1 specific carrier right now, but they will be available on iPhones on the other carriers...eventually. I can't stand Apple but they have marketing down to a science and they would never pull a bonehead move like that.
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    08-03-2013 09:15 PM
  7. moosc's Avatar
    So Phil do you see a pink tint in the display? Moto guys said there is a pink tint. Also disagree with moto remark about the droid brand. There not a more powerful device there just like the X with a different body.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
    08-03-2013 09:17 PM
  8. Farish's Avatar
    When was the last time Apple released a new iPhone, said it was gonna be on every carrier, really pushed certain features of it, but then said those features will only be available on iPhones from 1 specific carrier right now, but they will be available on iPhones on the other carriers...eventually. I can't stand Apple but they have marketing down to a science and they would never pull a bonehead move like that.
    They did that exact same thing with Siri.
    08-03-2013 10:24 PM
  9. tdizzel's Avatar
    They did that exact same thing with Siri.
    when exactly did that happen?
    08-03-2013 10:37 PM
  10. cdmta's Avatar
    apples and oranges. He was talking about being able to buy/customize a device on all carriers at launch. Siri was a feature that only came to the newest device. Very different things.
    08-03-2013 10:45 PM
  11. Farish's Avatar
    when exactly did that happen?
    With the release of Siri, it wasn't available on all carriers and all countries even though the iPhone was a worldwide release.
    apples and oranges. He was talking about being able to buy/customize a device on all carriers at launch. Siri was a feature that only came to the newest device. Very different things.
    Not talking about the hardware. Siri wasn't even available for certain locales till IOS 6 came out.
    08-03-2013 10:49 PM
  12. tdizzel's Avatar
    With the release of Siri, it wasn't available on all carriers and all countries even though the iPhone was a worldwide release.


    Not talking about the hardware. Siri wasn't even available for certain locales till IOS 6 came out.
    Siri was introduced with the iPhone 4s. Which carriers got the iPhone 4s when it first came out but those iPhone 4s didn't have Siri? Because that's what I said Apple wouldn't do.
    08-03-2013 10:55 PM
  13. wakazuki's Avatar
    Thanks for answering the questions Phil.
    Mine is one which has been often repeated without being answer to, I assume it's because you've had the phone for little time.
    Now that you've had at least one full cycle, can you screenshot the on screen time when the battery is almost over? ( say 5%)
    Thanks
    08-03-2013 10:58 PM
  14. neonworm's Avatar
    Is it worth the cost?
    08-03-2013 11:00 PM
  15. Aquila's Avatar
    Thanks for answering the questions Phil.
    Mine is one which has been often repeated without being answer to, I assume it's because you've had the phone for little time.
    Now that you've had at least one full cycle, can you screenshot the on screen time when the battery is almost over? ( say 5%)
    Thanks
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+...87846188704264
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    08-03-2013 11:03 PM
  16. Farish's Avatar
    when exactly did that happen?
    Siri was introduced with the iPhone 4s. Which carriers got the iPhone 4s when it first came out but those iPhone 4s didn't have Siri? Because that's what I said Apple wouldn't do.
    When Siri was released, not every Carrier that had an iPhone 4s had Siri activated.

    Mapping, local search, and other features were only available in the United States, in other countries, a majority of the other features were disable.

    Here is screenshot example.

    08-03-2013 11:15 PM
  17. tdizzel's Avatar
    When Siri was released, not every Carrier that had an iPhone 4s had Siri activated.

    Mapping, local search, and other features were only available in the United States, in other countries, a majority of the other features were disable.

    Here is screenshot example.

    http://657b072aab060d50f8ce-d7abb53c...m/26899_27.jpg
    This actually shows that the phones did have Siri. If they didn't then these screenshots wouldn't exist, but those phones clearly had Siri. Did it work well? no, but I think everyone is well aware that when it was introduced it was actually still in beta and had tons of bugs. But those phones certainly did have Siri.
    08-03-2013 11:25 PM
  18. Farish's Avatar
    This actually shows that the phones did have Siri. If they didn't then these screenshots wouldn't exist, but those phones clearly had Siri. Did it work well? no, but I think everyone is well aware that when it was introduced it was actually still in beta and had tons of bugs. But those phones certainly did have Siri.
    I didn't go through every carrier. There were several carriers that did not have Siri available or activated till IOS 6.

    You are also working against your own argument.

    Moto X has customization, it isn't available for everybody yet.

    Instead of bugs, they might have supply constraints because nobody else has done this with a smartphone before. Maybe they don't know who wants what color. What if they under order pink and get too many pink orders. Maybe they hired 2000 people and do to demand from ATT alone they realize they need to hire another 1000 people.

    This idea is just as much in Beta as anything else.
    08-03-2013 11:44 PM
  19. tdizzel's Avatar
    I didn't go through every carrier. There were several carriers that did not have Siri available or activated till IOS 6.

    You are also working against your own argument.

    Moto X has customization, it isn't available for everybody yet.

    Instead of bugs, they might have supply constraints because nobody else has done this with a smartphone before. Maybe they don't know who wants what color. What if they under order pink and get too many pink orders. Maybe they hired 2000 people and do to demand from ATT alone they realize they need to hire another 1000 people.

    This idea is just as much in Beta as anything else.
    How am I working against my own argument? I said Apple wouldn't release a new iphone to all carriers, promote a feature on those iphones and not have it available at certain carriers. When the iphone 4s came out, you could go to any carrier that sold the iphone 4s, ask for an iphone 4s with Siri and get an iphone 4s with Siri. I can't speak to the mindset of the sheep that would want a phone with a half-baked feature, but the fact is if you wanted an iphone 4s with Siri, you got an iphone 4s with Siri. With the moto x, if you want a moto x that you can customize and aren't on AT&T you're SOL. That's a boneheaded move and nobody with any marketing sense would make that kind of move. If they can't handle the demand for it, then don't promote it as a feature.
    08-03-2013 11:59 PM
  20. bryantest's Avatar
    Question

    If you're going to issue voice commands to the Moto X - simple voice commands like setting the time alarm - does that mean the phone still has to be connected to the 'Net via Wi-Fi or 4G/3G data connection?

    Thanks!
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    08-04-2013 12:21 AM
  21. ultravisitor's Avatar
    If you're going to issue voice commands to the Moto X - simple voice commands like setting the time alarm - does that mean the phone still has to be connected to the 'Net via Wi-Fi or 4G/3G data connection?
    Unless they've modified Google Now for the X, you have to have some sort of connection to the Internet. I just tried it with my Galaxy Nexus in airplane mode and it didn't work.
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    08-04-2013 12:45 AM
  22. Aquila's Avatar
    Unless they've modified Google Now for the X, you have to have some sort of connection to the Internet. I just tried it with my Galaxy Nexus in airplane mode and it didn't work.
    Only thing mine will do without any data connection is make phone calls. (It will search for names/numbers locally)
    08-04-2013 12:50 AM
  23. Farish's Avatar
    I didn't go through every carrier. There were several carriers that did not have Siri available or activated till IOS 6.
    How am I working against my own argument? I said Apple wouldn't release a new iphone to all carriers, promote a feature on those iphones and not have it available at certain carriers. When the iphone 4s came out, you could go to any carrier that sold the iphone 4s, ask for an iphone 4s with Siri
    Once again, it was not available on all carriers. I listed Canadian Carriers as an example of missing features. There were several carriers around the world who didn't get Siri till at least a year after its release.
    08-04-2013 01:34 AM
  24. bunique4life05's Avatar
    How long will it before we get a full review?

    Sent from my SGH-T999 using AC Forums mobile app
    08-04-2013 01:52 AM
  25. heplock's Avatar
    I want to be able to issue voice commands like making notes and setting alarms with no data connection. Is this possible?
    08-04-2013 02:44 AM
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