08-12-2013 01:00 PM
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  1. GeekMoxie's Avatar
    Thanks everyone for your insight!
    The more I read/research/scour/whine about the device choices - the more I find myself leaning towards the Moto X.

    I'm a visual person, so I like the way the Moto X looks compared to the Droid line. As well as everything else that has been already mentioned that sets it apart.

    Still struggling with the camera weaknesses - someone brought up a good point about using a 3rd party app to avoid the post processing flaws but that takes away from the quick launch wrist flick thinger since I'm assuming it cannot be customized to open a different camera.

    Guess I just need to wait until they release and tinker with them in person.
    08-11-2013 11:53 AM
  2. tdizzel's Avatar
    Thanks everyone for your insight!
    The more I read/research/scour/whine about the device choices - the more I find myself leaning towards the Moto X.

    I'm a visual person, so I like the way the Moto X looks compared to the Droid line. As well as everything else that has been already mentioned that sets it apart.

    Still struggling with the camera weaknesses - someone brought up a good point about using a 3rd party app to avoid the post processing flaws but that takes away from the quick launch wrist flick thinger since I'm assuming it cannot be customized to open a different camera.

    Guess I just need to wait until they release and tinker with them in person.
    I don't think you can go wrong with the X. Hopefully there will be an update before launch or shortly after launch that will fix the problems with the camera. I'm sure Moto knows about it, I just hope they are working on a fix.
    08-11-2013 12:01 PM
  3. TechTinker's Avatar
    I don't think you can go wrong with the X. Hopefully there will be an update before launch or shortly after launch that will fix the problems with the camera. I'm sure Moto knows about it, I just hope they are working on a fix.
    Agree, I mean I tried to contract them a few times and the issue is known somewhere since they responded. Heres what the camera needs, to fix the post processing issues, add photoshere (to really compete with the iphone), And have andvanced settings that you can enable, like macro, exposure, but one at a time so the wheel isnt cluttered, or just Ps and marcro. Also I really don't like filters but there should be a default way to do it for the people who do, somehow, should be int the gallery.
    08-11-2013 02:45 PM
  4. briankariu's Avatar
    Please people, don't get side tracked. Someone asked for help, so help!
    Anyway what I would advice is to go to a verizon/at&t shop and handle the different phones yourself. Play with them a bit, maybe take one home and return within the two week period. The current top android phone honchos are pretty nice. In terms of asthetics and feel. Read reviews, lots of them. I feel that each different review covers a different aspect of the phone.
    But if you are looking to reign that monstrously high phone bill, a nexus 4+t-mobile combo is the way to go.

    Sent from the heartland of Africa
    08-11-2013 02:58 PM
  5. TechTinker's Avatar
    Please people, don't get side tracked. Someone asked for help, so help!
    Anyway what I would advice is to go to a verizon/at&t shop and handle the different phones yourself. Play with them a bit, maybe take one home and return within the two week period. The current top android phone honchos are pretty nice. In terms of asthetics and feel. Read reviews, lots of them. I feel that each different review covers a different aspect of the phone.
    But if you are looking to reign that monstrously high phone bill, a nexus 4+t-mobile combo is the way to go.

    Sent from the heartland of Africa
    Uhm. If you read the post, she has been helped. But the take home for the return period is nice advice. So +1.
    08-11-2013 03:14 PM
  6. Paisley's Avatar
    I don't think you can go wrong with the X. Hopefully there will be an update before launch or shortly after launch that will fix the problems with the camera. I'm sure Moto knows about it, I just hope they are working on a fix.
    But don't you think if moto had a way a fixing it after so many of their cameras have been poor, that they would know at least enough software tweaks to not have the camera be this poor at this point? They've had poor cameras for a while from what i understand. I think hope is great and everything, but a person is probably better off in this case accepting this as a reality of the phone.
    08-11-2013 03:17 PM
  7. tdizzel's Avatar
    But don't you think if moto had a way a fixing it after so many of their cameras have been poor, that they would know at least enough software tweaks to not have the camera be this poor at this point? They've had poor cameras for a while from what i understand. I think hope is great and everything, but a person is probably better off in this case accepting this as a reality of the phone.
    This is a totally new camera. And this is the first time that Moto has created under Google. With those two factors hopefully things will be different. "At this point" is still weeks before release so I'm not too worried about issues that are showing up right now.
    08-11-2013 03:41 PM
  8. maxman1's Avatar
    This is a totally new camera. And this is the first time that Moto has created under Google. With those two factors hopefully things will be different. "At this point" is still weeks before release so I'm not too worried about issues that are showing up right now.
    I agree, any issues with it are likely to be addressed prior to launch. Does anyone know if this camera will be the same as installed in the new Droid series?

    Sent from my Droid RAZR MAXX using Tapatalk2
    08-11-2013 04:07 PM
  9. Paisley's Avatar
    This is a totally new camera. And this is the first time that Moto has created under Google. With those two factors hopefully things will be different. "At this point" is still weeks before release so I'm not too worried about issues that are showing up right now.
    Usually early handsets given out at unveiling/hands on events are reviewed with images shot from them, and all those seem fine compared to this one. I think there is nothing to base hope on other than the camera is obviously not good. sry! Just don't want you to get your hopes up, sometimes phones just have their flaws. Time will tell, but it sounds like you are having a good bit of faith. The odds are against it. Just hope for the best, but expect the worst.
    08-11-2013 06:12 PM
  10. tdizzel's Avatar
    Usually early handsets given out at unveiling/hands on events are reviewed with images shot from them, and all those seem fine compared to this one. I think there is nothing to base hope on other than the camera is obviously not good. sry! Just don't want you to get your hopes up, sometimes phones just have their flaws. Time will tell, but it sounds like you are having a good bit of faith. The odds are against it. Just hope for the best, but expect the worst.
    Actually everyone is saying the same things. The camera takes some really good shots but it also takes some really bad ones. Obviously the camera is good in order to take good pictures. Most of the people have also said that it seems to be a problem with post-processing, meaning the camera is taking good pictures, but the phone is screwing them up. If that truly is the case, then a software update could easily fix it. Moto/Google is doing things totally different. From the way they put the phone together to the launch event, to the functionality, so what usually happens has no bearing at all on what will happen with this phone. I don't know if I'm having a good bit of faith, I just know that Moto has a lot riding on this phone, and if so much noise is being made about one of the functions, I'm pretty sure they will address it, especially seeing how much lead time they have before launch.
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    08-11-2013 07:17 PM
  11. Paisley's Avatar
    Actually everyone is saying the same things. The camera takes some really good shots but it also takes some really bad ones. Obviously the camera is good in order to take good pictures. Most of the people have also said that it seems to be a problem with post-processing, meaning the camera is taking good pictures, but the phone is screwing them up. If that truly is the case, then a software update could easily fix it. Moto/Google is doing things totally different. From the way they put the phone together to the launch event, to the functionality, so what usually happens has no bearing at all on what will happen with this phone. I don't know if I'm having a good bit of faith, I just know that Moto has a lot riding on this phone, and if so much noise is being made about one of the functions, I'm pretty sure they will address it, especially seeing how much lead time they have before launch.
    Will you be let down if it doesn't happen?
    08-11-2013 07:25 PM
  12. tdizzel's Avatar
    Will you be let down if it doesn't happen?
    Let down? No. Suprised? Yes. Camera isn't very high on my list of reasons to pick a cell phone. And I haven't even decided if I'm gonna buy an X yet. I'm very interested in this phone due to the reviews its been getting, but I never decide on a phone until its in my hands.
    08-11-2013 07:50 PM
  13. Ry's Avatar
    Actually everyone is saying the same things. The camera takes some really good shots but it also takes some really bad ones. Obviously the camera is good in order to take good pictures. Most of the people have also said that it seems to be a problem with post-processing, meaning the camera is taking good pictures, but the phone is screwing them up. If that truly is the case, then a software update could easily fix it. Moto/Google is doing things totally different. From the way they put the phone together to the launch event, to the functionality, so what usually happens has no bearing at all on what will happen with this phone. I don't know if I'm having a good bit of faith, I just know that Moto has a lot riding on this phone, and if so much noise is being made about one of the functions, I'm pretty sure they will address it, especially seeing how much lead time they have before launch.
    Yup. It may take a bit to get a good shot, but you can get there - and since that's the case, this could probably be fixed by a software update.
    08-12-2013 01:00 PM
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