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  1. tdizzel's Avatar

    Lastly I find first hand experiences lacking in this sub-forum. So far just a lot of name calling, parroting, and overall lack of critical thinking.
    Are you saying that most people haven't used a phone that's not available yet(oh, I forgot, it IS available if you live near the factory)? I find that hard to believe. By the way, are you posting this while riding around in your flying car? I'm just wondering.

    Speaking of parroting and lack of critical thinking-was there anything in your "review" that you posted that hasn't been posted in virtually every review of the phone so far? I give you credit for not actually using cut and paste, but you didn't bring a single new ounce of anything to your "review"
    08-11-2013 02:06 PM
  2. Jerry Hildenbrand's Avatar
    Reading, Jerry. It's your friend. You should try it, specially with what you just wrote and what I've posted already.
    Pretty **** poor but expected response from someone coming in here with trash posts, who by the way doesn't own the phone, right Jerry?
    But I'm not saying anything about the phone I don't have. I'm merely commenting on your behavior. One important thing you seem to have forgotten...
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    08-11-2013 02:06 PM
  3. asanatheist's Avatar
    Are you saying that most people haven't used a phone that's not available yet(oh, I forgot, it IS available if you live near the factory)? I find that hard to believe. By the way, are you posting this while riding around in your flying car? I'm just wondering.

    Speaking of parroting and lack of critical thinking-was there anything in your "review" that you posted that hasn't been posted in virtually every review of the phone so far? I give you credit for not actually using cut and paste, but you didn't bring a single new ounce of anything to your "review"
    Guess you missed the first post or are just wanting to attack someone's character because you are bored? Either way it doesn't speak highly of you.

    Wasn't anything new to add, lastly having the device for one days doesn't really grant me the same freedom as reviewers who have it for week(s). All I am hearing is excuses so far.

    But I'm not saying anything about the phone I don't have. I'm merely commenting on your behavior. One important thing you seem to have forgotten...
    Right. Because this sub-forum seems to be positive and constructive and not a neigh ounce of bad attitudes, trolling, and parroting? Anyways I came in with a serious thread about my 1 days experience, and my overall thoughts on Motorola's marketing campaign. No where did I troll, or make statements that would cause people to be riled up.

    Apparently people who don't own or have ever used the device felt it necessary to come in and add nothing to the conversation but to ridicule?
    Then you come in to add jokes?
    08-11-2013 02:20 PM
  4. Paisley's Avatar
    The Moto X factory is a drive away (35 minutes away to be exact). I have only used the phone for a day. It was late last night and didn't want to have to type up another large paragraph on my experience using the phone.
    Let's see:
    Touchless controls were fun to use even if the microphone wasn't as responsive. When it works it works flawlessly, when it decides to hiccups I am stuck repeating Ok Google now a few times. It's a nifty feature however I find my self in awkward situations when texting friends, or trying to look things up and I am having to repeat my self Ok Google Now or I am having to disclose everything I am texting to strangers around me. Often times I found my self just reaching for the phone, unlocking and going ahead and using the device to perform more personal tasks (texting, emails, etc).

    Quick Glances was nice, but it's just a neat feature not really terribly useful since it only displayed your last notification.
    Camera is iffy, sometimes it takes good shots but most of the times it fails with contrast, sharpness, and detail. Bad post processing mostly. The Iphone 5 took better pictures despite being lower MP, and being far older. In low light scenarios it faired okay, but honestly the Lumia 920/928 completely tramples the Moto X's camera.
    I did however greatly appreciate a non cluttered notification bar, similar to what you see on the Nexus device. Helped a bit when managing notifications.

    The GUI is fast, and responsive. Only times I got lag were when updating multiple apps (auto update), uploading files, directly after playing a game, or downloading a large file. This appears to be normal on the smartphones I've used or own: HTC One, Samsung S4, Iphone 5, Moto X. I need to get my hands on an LG G2, perhaps one of my customers will come in with one once it releases.
    Overall it seems to work just as well as a HTC one, or Iphone 5 albeit the Iphone 5 is a bit smoother experience due to the restrictive and controlled ecosystem and lower spec requirements to run iOS (no multitasking for one).
    The S4 as you may know has touchwiz lag here and there although MF3 has certainly helped a bit, and with S voice disabled from home it's a bit better it still isn't as lag free as the HTC One, or Moto X.
    Battery life was quite good..
    It lasted 4:30 hours of heavy use before dropping to 25%~. That was 1.5 hours of gaming (Restaurant story in intervals, and playing mostly DH4), 30 minutes of youtube, 20 minutes of downloading/uploading apps, and setting phone up, and the rest of the time in my pocket.

    Sound is okay, then again having an HTC One makes most speakers sound just "Ok."

    Overall I can say the phone works really well, and for the price it's worth it. However the price justification doesn't come in the way of the 2 features heavily pushed by Moto X. It comes from the USA Assembled aspect, and the customization (which unfortunately are locked down to At&t until november).
    So the battery is better in the X than the htc one and the gs4, the phone is less laggy, (and more comfortable hold in the hand, and in the pocket, you know, those little details about how it feels on and next to the body alllll day) which to me, sound like a much better experience, but yet this "better experience" thing is just a marketing scam so people should spend the money for laggy big not as comfy in the hand machine that they have to pick up off the desk to see if they have msgs dozens of times a day b/c technically, breathing/active notifications is just "1" feature (that just so happens to save people having to touch their phone dozens of times a day, 365 days a year). That is some freaky-deaky logic.

    This might be hard to believe, but that's why some people prefer user experience over whatever you're on about. ready? Alum chassis, in your mind = "better" material, but if it's overly large and doesn't feel as good in the hand, it's is not "better" for many who are holding/using/carrying it.

    Removable battery vs. charging a battery less often. That's not even worth comparing, but you seem to think non-removable battery is a weakness. lol. Ya know what's a weakness? Having to recharge your battery more often. Or maybe it's more high end to just carry extra batteries around cuz your phone can't hold a charge as long. Sounds like hot feature. lol

    And I guarantee you a whooooole lotta people would prefer picking up their phone less, and waking their phone less often, charging their phone less often, taking their phone out of their pocket to check the time without having to wake the phone, to having BOOM SOUND. It's called convenience, and that's what we like about this modern era we live in.

    I'll put it this way, my company just gave 100's of employees in my company free GS4's, many don't ike it, they are complaining it's wonky (glitchy) and many don't like the size. Guarantee you they woudn't be complaining about a 720P great screen on a buttery smooth fast phone that feels great in the hand, that fits nicely in their pocket, over an sd card.
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    08-11-2013 02:25 PM
  5. retsaw's Avatar
    I'm curious. How does living near the factory get you the opportunity to try the phone out for a day?
    08-11-2013 02:34 PM
  6. JungleLarry's Avatar
    Exactly. Every point you have made here is what I have been saying, but getting literary booed down. I definitely do not think 2-3 features are enough to ask for that much money.
    On the other hand, if they had stuck a 4000mah battery in there and guaranteed 2 days battery life, I would be throwing money at them at this point.
    The PR machine is hard at work, and we should be able to see past it. Am just suprised how most people are defending it.
    If any other android oem made a phone with this specs and dared call it high end, they would be laughed back to china/Taiwan/Korea

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    What a tired shtick, and a wonderful fantasy of delusion you've painted for yourself. Is it too difficult for you to absorb that hardware specifications don't tell the whole story, and that real-world performance trumps numbers on a piece of paper? Honestly.

    Most people aren't defending the Moto X, they're defending the opportunity to GIVE IT A CHANCE. People like you, who have just written it off as worthless and useless based on your cursory comparitive analysis of spec sheets, are the real enemies of critical thinking here.

    Do you even find it a little strange that people who have actually used the Moto X have returned positive reviews of its performance? You're welcome to purchase whatever phone you want, of course, and if not having an off-the-shelf quad core CPU will keep you awake at night, then please don't get the Moto X. But do us all a favor and stop talking about that which you have no clue.
    08-11-2013 02:35 PM
  7. tdizzel's Avatar
    Guess you missed the first post or are just wanting to attack someone's character because you are bored? Either way it doesn't speak highly of you.

    Wasn't anything new to add, lastly having the device for one days doesn't really grant me the same freedom as reviewers who have it for week(s). All I am hearing is excuses so far.



    Right. Because this sub-forum seems to be positive and constructive and not a neigh ounce of bad attitudes, trolling, and parroting? Anyways I came in with a serious thread about my 1 days experience, and my overall thoughts on Motorola's marketing campaign. No where did I troll, or make statements that would cause people to be riled up.

    Apparently people who don't own or have ever used the device felt it necessary to come in and add nothing to the conversation but to ridicule?
    Then you come in to add jokes?
    Unfortunately, I did read your first post. And besides the innumerable grammatical errors it just seemed to drag on and on trying to make a point without ever actually making a point while simultaneously contradicting itself throughout.
    You say there wasn't anything new to add, but I can guarantee that within 24 hours of the phone being released, people who actually use it for a day will be posting dozens of new features and observations that haven't been mentioned yet.
    Did you really come into a Moto X sub-forum, make a post bashing the phone and the people who are excited about it (accusing them of drinking the "cool aid"-whatever that is) and expect positive reactions?
    And you keep mentioning that people don't own or haven't used the device...you seem to keep forgetting that we all don't live near the factory, so we cant just walk up to it, knock on the door and get us a Moto X like you did.
    08-11-2013 02:36 PM
  8. Jerry Hildenbrand's Avatar
    Right. Because this sub-forum seems to be positive and constructive and not a neigh ounce of bad attitudes, trolling, and parroting? Anyways I came in with a serious thread about my 1 days experience, and my overall thoughts on Motorola's marketing campaign. No where did I troll, or make statements that would cause people to be riled up.

    Apparently people who don't own or have ever used the device felt it necessary to come in and add nothing to the conversation but to ridicule?
    Then you come in to add jokes?
    Just because we don't believe you, or don't have faith in your assessment does not mean we are the bad guys here. We just don't believe you or have faith in your assessment. These are the consequences of your actions. Spin that however you like.

    If I were to talk about what I think of the Moto X after using it, I would start off with a picture of it in my hand. This is the Internet, where everyone has claims that they have done everything but die and seen everything but the wind.

    I'll find out if the Moto X is a good device after I use one. Until then, it's all just more noise that adds nothing of value.
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    08-11-2013 02:39 PM
  9. asanatheist's Avatar
    Just because we don't believe you, or don't have faith in your assessment does not mean we are the bad guys here. We just don't believe you or have faith in your assessment. These are the consequences of your actions. Spin that however you like.

    If I were to talk about what I think of the Moto X after using it, I would start off with a picture of it in my hand. This is the Internet, where everyone has claims that they have done everything but die and seen everything but the wind.

    I'll find out if the Moto X is a good device after I use one. Until then, it's all just more noise that adds nothing of value.
    Fair enough, Jerry.
    If I understand what you are saying: You basically say you will wait for the device to be in your hands to form an opinion. That's something I can agree with. Nothing beats first hand experience.
    You (and everyone else) could of just forgone all the crappy jokes, and poor trolling and just been serious instead, don't you think so?

    Then again that's expecting too much it appears.
    08-11-2013 02:48 PM
  10. asanatheist's Avatar
    Unfortunately, I did read your first post. And besides the innumerable grammatical errors it just seemed to drag on and on trying to make a point without ever actually making a point while simultaneously contradicting itself throughout.
    You say there wasn't anything new to add, but I can guarantee that within 24 hours of the phone being released, people who actually use it for a day will be posting dozens of new features and observations that haven't been mentioned yet.
    Did you really come into a Moto X sub-forum, make a post bashing the phone and the people who are excited about it (accusing them of drinking the "cool aid"-whatever that is) and expect positive reactions?
    And you keep mentioning that people don't own or haven't used the device...you seem to keep forgetting that we all don't live near the factory, so we cant just walk up to it, knock on the door and get us a Moto X like you did.
    I came with a serious thread. I apologize for the grammatical errors, it was very late. Next time I will wait until morning.
    I came in expecting a conversation, not an immediate troll thread. Apparently people get hostile quite quickly here.

    Then you got people like Larry here who's own profile picture seems to sum of his existence here on AC.
    08-11-2013 02:52 PM
  11. Rigelian's Avatar
    So the battery is better in the X than the htc one and the gs4, the phone is less laggy, (and more comfortable hold in the hand, and in the pocket, you know, those little details about how it feels on and next to the body alllll day) which to me, sound like a much better experience, but yet this "better experience" thing is just a marketing scam so people should spend the money for laggy big not as comfy in the hand machine that they have to pick up off the desk to see if they have msgs dozens of times a day b/c technically breathing/active notifications is just "1" feature (that will save people having to touch their phone dozens of times a day, 365 days a year). That is some freaky-deaky logic.
    This is exactly what I was thinking. He described all of the reasons why I would prefer the Moto X over the HTC One and the S4 and then argues that it doesn't justify the same price as the S4 and HTC One. I don't quite understand the point. I love the new features, I like that it has a better hand feel than the HTC One (which I think is a very nice looking phone), I like that it is smaller. But I get all of this and it's just as fast and its battery lasts longer. Why is this considered some kind of misdirection?
    08-11-2013 02:55 PM
  12. JungleLarry's Avatar
    Yeah, screw that Larry guy. Let's just repeat the spec war nonsense until we crap our pants.

    08-11-2013 02:56 PM
  13. asanatheist's Avatar
    What a tired shtick, and a wonderful fantasy of delusion you've painted for yourself. Is it too difficult for you to absorb that hardware specifications don't tell the whole story, and that real-world performance trumps numbers on a piece of paper? Honestly.

    Most people aren't defending the Moto X, they're defending the opportunity to GIVE IT A CHANCE. People like you, who have just written it off as worthless and useless based on your cursory comparitive analysis of spec sheets, are the real enemies of critical thinking here.

    Do you even find it a little strange that people who have actually used the Moto X have returned positive reviews of its performance? You're welcome to purchase whatever phone you want, of course, and if not having an off-the-shelf quad core CPU will keep you awake at night, then please don't get the Moto X. But do us all a favor and stop talking about that which you have no clue.
    First off, thanks for the serious response even if it is a tad bit hostile.

    If they really want people to give it a chance they should focus on what it can do that other phones can't. Which so far is 3 main features, 1 being tied down to AT&T. Touchless control, quick glance feature, and customization. The vanilla stock appeal is already present in Nexus devices.
    But those three features (well customization is awesome but sucks about it being tied down till about end of the year) doesn't really make an appealing phone does it? Nope instead they will use pretty words, and blanket statements to confuse the public into thinking the Moto X is different from the competition.
    08-11-2013 02:58 PM
  14. tdizzel's Avatar
    I came with a serious thread. I apologize for the grammatical errors, it was very late. Next time I will wait until morning.
    I came in expecting a conversation, not an immediate troll thread. Apparently people get hostile quite quickly here.

    Then you got people like Larry here who's own profile picture seems to sum of his existence here on AC.
    There's always room for discussion and differing opinions, but when you start off your post saying that people are drinking Kool Aid and don't know any better, you can't expect people to be very civil about that.
    08-11-2013 02:58 PM
  15. asanatheist's Avatar
    There's always room for discussion and differing opinions, but when you start off your post saying that people are drinking Kool Aid and don't know any better, you can't expect people to be very civil about that.
    Point taken.

    Lastly my multiquote is broken.
    08-11-2013 03:01 PM
  16. asanatheist's Avatar
    Yeah, screw that Larry guy. Let's just repeat the spec war nonsense until we crap our pants.

    http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee3/vkyle8/t.gif
    And that's what I meant by you personifying that profile picture.
    Can you tell me what is this specs war in detail? I would certainly like to hear your take on it.
    08-11-2013 03:02 PM
  17. JungleLarry's Avatar
    08-11-2013 03:09 PM
  18. asanatheist's Avatar
    I'm curious. How does living near the factory get you the opportunity to try the phone out for a day?
    Since a lot of people are asking: the factory near me needs permits, tax "breaks" (not sure if they got any) and required 2,000+ employees which was a human resource nightmare but awesome for the economy in Forth Worth.
    Anyways, some politicians here in Texas have the Moto X. I got to borrow the phone from one of them, by sheer luck.
    Lastly I didn't really try to look for new things because I was busy seeing how it worked with what I used my phone for.
    08-11-2013 03:12 PM
  19. Paisley's Avatar
    This is exactly what I was thinking. He described all of the reasons why I would prefer the Moto X over the HTC One and the S4 and then argues that it doesn't justify the same price as the S4 and HTC One. I don't quite understand the point. I love the new features, I like that it has a better hand feel than the HTC One (which I think is a very nice looking phone), I like that it is smaller. But I get all of this and it's just as fast and its battery lasts longer. Why is this considered some kind of misdirection?
    and then it was "worth the price" but not, b/c they're tricking customers into paying bmw prices (even though the phone costs as much to make as the other phones that sell for the same price). Logic like that happens when it just makes no sense in the first place.
    08-11-2013 03:25 PM
  20. Paisley's Avatar
    First off, thanks for the serious response even if it is a tad bit hostile.

    If they really want people to give it a chance they should focus on what it can do that other phones can't. Which so far is 3 main features, 1 being tied down to AT&T. Touchless control, quick glance feature, and customization. The vanilla stock appeal is already present in Nexus devices.
    But those three features (well customization is awesome but sucks about it being tied down till about end of the year) doesn't really make an appealing phone does it? Nope instead they will use pretty words, and blanket statements to confuse the public into thinking the Moto X is different from the competition.
    Those are 2 or 3 features on top of a phone that is a better chassis size for many, better form for even more, and that has better battery life and runs smoother than the htc/gs4. You're stuck on the marketing thing because that's your original hypothesis, but battery life, form and operating system are huge aspects of a phone. HUGE. You know what people like to hear "quad-core", but ya know what sucks? a stuttering o/s that the GS4 is known to have. and no matter what marketing either put forth, reviews say the X runs smoother than the GS4. And yes, in marketing they highlight new features, or unique features, like boom sound. That boom sound is pretty fabulous. And so is not having to wake or pick up your phone as often. Some people get more out of the Boomsound and some get more out of active display.

    As as to what the phones can actually offer people?
    So now what can the gs4 do that the X can't. You can remove the battery. What can X users do? Go longer without charging their battery.
    What can htc do? boom sound. what can x do? fit in your pocket.
    what can gs4 do? beat x in a cpu benchmark. what can x do? be more convenient.
    what can the gs4 do? beat x in a cpu benchmark. what can x do? run without stuttering.
    what can gs4 do? offer you more storage. what can x do that htc/gs4 cannot? navigate you in a car without you taking your eyes of the road to ask for it directions.
    that sexy metal chassis can be as sexy as it wants but if it's too big for the user it's not a better chassis, no matter how pretty.

    and we have to pick and choose among those features, that's how we make decisions in life.
    08-11-2013 03:38 PM
  21. roadkizzle's Avatar
    My take on ending the specs war, aka marketing blitz for the Moto X.
    I believe there is a big misconception and misleading that some people may not be aware of and seem to be fine drinking the cool aid.

    Lets explain what has been stated.
    Motorola claims its no longer pursuing a specs war that everyone else is involved in.
    Motorola claims the experience matters more than specs.
    Motorola claims people want features more than hardware specs.
    This can lead to misinform or mislead those who dont know better into thinking that everyone else besides Motorola is caught up in specs, and fails to deliver on the experience which is complete nonsense.


    Lets look at what has happened:
    Specs wars have yet to impede with experience for the past couple years, and every year the experience gets better and better. Projects like Butter, mfg confessions of having to simplify the OS (HTC/LG recent with the One and G2) and Motorola's own decision to scrap motoblur are proof that Motorola's statements as a clever marketing guise. The experience is getting better and better every year right along with hardware with NO signs that hardware is impeding software advances if anything at all, making them possible.
    Most flagship phones are expected to provide a good experience, and most flagships already do. Just look at the reviews surrounding the S4, HTC One, Lumia 920/928/1020, and Iphone 5 (old I know).
    All of them provide a good experience, each having their own strengths and therefore weaknesses. Some relying on camera features (1020), some relying on an abundance of software and hardware features even if gimmicky (Samsung S4), some relying on feel mixed with premium hardware, lessened bloatware, and high quality build (HTC One), and lastly the Iphone 5 providing a safe ecosystem.
    With the Moto X it isnt really about experience per say, after all they are not giving you a completely different OS nor a safe ecosystem nor a better camera, gaming, multimedia, or anything experience, at least going by Motorolas focus it really is just about 2 features: Voice control, and quick glance. They're simply giving a semi stock but not truly stock android OS, for contract price and they added 2 more features. That about sums it up. It isn't some mystical unicorn fantasy Android version, it actually removes useful features, and doesn't really do much but give you a near Nexus experience, with a contract price to boot.
    You will notice most of these phones have strengths and weaknesses: Some are hardware strengths some are software. But lets get to the meat of it: the specs wars. Lets point out the unique positives in the devices.o Samsung S4: SD Card, Removable battery, 13MP Camera.
    o HTC One: Large pixel low light camera, boom sound, aluminum chassis.
    o Nokia 1020: 41mp camera hopefully thats evident.
    o Iphone 5: Superior fit and finish, sapphire crystal camera lens?
    Now name one bad negative review for one of the aforementioned devices, except for the Lumia 920 and iphone 5 since theyre different OS.
    Motorola is attempting to pull the wood over the eyes of the consumer by trying to mislead the public into thinking the industry is in a specs war and that they HAVE the solution to the problem with a new better experience. An experience that consists of 2 features.
    Funny and hypocritical enough, Motorola is fine with flaunting their hardware when convenient with their RGB non pentile AMOLED, and their custom technically octa-core SoC.
    All the while saying anyone who compares specs does not understand the product design. They want to compare specs: but when they touch on flaws they immediate revert back to their hiding behind the unquantifiable: the experience, which we all know to be so delicate it could be thrown out of balance\ by something as simple as having yellow instead of blue in some menu somewhere lost in a pool of binary code.

    What Motorola is banking on is basically for people to pay a BMW price, for a Lexus all because the Lexus seems to do everything the BMW can. They are essentially asking with really nice marketing for consumers to take less pay the same all the while Motorola is fine with making a phone that is "just enough".

    It is very clear the Moto X is meant to be used as a cash cow, to increase profits and put Motorola back in the map. But to say it's a great device fit to challenge others in the top tier of smartphones is lying to themselves. This device is meant to be the Iphone equivalent of Android in sense of becoming a money cow, without the goodies attached*.
    By goodies I mean: (great apple store support, superb build quality, strongest accessories availability and a solid an well reserved ecosystem)
    I really think the issue is that the other Android manufacturers are really trying to get the users to pay for non-value adding hardware/features.

    Why in the world do you think a user should pay higher costs for a Galaxy S4 having a 1080p screen and Quad Core processor when it isn't able to perform with as high a framerate, heating up as much, and still having substantially lower battery life despite a 18% larger battery with the corresponding worse form factor.

    I'm sorry, but users should not pay more for a phone with a 1080p screen when it really only provides an extremely minimal sharpness benefit and as a tradeoff causes substantially more battery drain, and strain on the phones hardware to push the additional 2.25x more pixels to achieve the same framerate.

    I'll list out the pro's and con's that I really feel of the Moto X vs the other android flagships.
    Galaxy S4:
    Pros:
    -Excellent Screen
    -Multi-window functionality
    -Very good camera
    -Removable Battery
    -You can scroll up and down web pages without touching the phone

    Cons:
    -Lags and stutters
    -The phone is to large to easily use one-handed


    HTC One:
    Pros:
    -Boomsound allows for loud sound with good clarity
    -Excellent Screen
    -Smoothest running quad-core phone

    Cons:
    -The worst battery life of the "flagship" phones
    -HTC had to reduce the ability of the multi-tasking to get the smooth phone
    -Metal body makes the phone the heaviest and most slick of the flagships increasing the chances of dropping it. When dropped the metal is most likely to dent causing long-term issues

    Moto X:
    Pros:
    -Form factor is most ergonomic and comfortable bar none
    -According to all reviews the performance (smooth responsiveness of the phones GUI) is substantially better than Galaxy S4 and on par with HTC One
    -The undisputed king of these flagship phones battery life
    -The phone that gets the best framerate in highly graphics intensive situations such as gaming. (In addition, all reviews that test gaming say it heats up substantially less than comparative phones)
    -The Touchless Controls allows you to get much more useful touchless capabilities than scrolling through web pages, such as calling people, sending texts, setting alarms and reminders, taking notes, searching the internet, getting translations, and making calculations and unit conversions.)
    -The Active Display allows you to always see at a glance the pertinent new notifications without having to touch your phone.
    -The phone has the quickest accessible camera of the flagship Android devices.
    -Very good screen (providing the ability for the phone to have the highest framerate and lowest battery consumption for a very negligible visual differences)
    -The phones speaker apparently blows away the HTCs Boomsound in terms of loudness with little loss of clarity or distortion

    Cons:
    -Unpredictable camera

    I really cannot think of any reason why the Galaxy S4 and HTC One should be more marketable and worth higher prices. The Moto X includes all the value added features required for phones without loading the phone down with completely unnecessary features used by makers to do nothing but justify higher prices for more poorly performing phones.
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    08-11-2013 03:46 PM
  22. roadkizzle's Avatar
    Those are 2 or 3 features on top of a phone that is a better chassis size for many, better form for even more, and that has better battery life and runs smoother than the htc/gs4. You're stuck on the marketing thing because that's your original hypothesis, but battery life, form and operating system are huge aspects of a phone. HUGE. You know what people like to hear "quad-core", but ya know what sucks? a stuttering o/s that the GS4 is known to have. and no matter what marketing either put forth, reviews say the X runs smoother than the GS4. And yes, it marketing they highlight new features, or unique features, like boom sound. That boom sound is pretty fabulous. And so is not having to wake or pick up your phone as often. Some people get more out of the Boomsound and some get more out of active display.

    and to what the phones can actually offer people, So now what can the gs4 do that the X can't. You can remove the battery. What can X users do? Go longer without charging their battery.
    What can htc do? boom sound. what can x do? fit in your pocket.
    what can gs4 do? beat x in a cpu benchmark. what can x do? be more convenient.
    what can the gs4 do? beat x in a cpu benchmark. what can x do? run without stuttering.
    what can gs4 do? offer you more storage. what can x do that htc/gs4 cannot? navigate you in a car without you taking your eyes of the road to ask for it directions.
    I agree with all of this. In fact, the reviews are saying that the Moto X's speakerphone is very comparable to the Boomsound. The only differences are the Moto X is louder, slightly less clarity, and potentially more likely to accidentally cover the grill with your finger.
    08-11-2013 03:50 PM
  23. Paisley's Avatar
    I agree with all of this. In fact, the reviews are saying that the Moto X's speakerphone is very comparable to the Boomsound. The only differences are the Moto X is louder, slightly less clarity, and potentially more likely to accidentally cover the grill with your finger.
    i wouldn't go so far to say that, and reviews i've read note that. I mean, there's no way you're getting close to boom sound with those huge *** speakers on the top and bottom of that phone, even though motorola makes great speakers (i've heard the Moto on you tube, it's pretty awesome for a regular phone). BS is fuller, it's for music, and it's awesome. X has great speakers compared to most other phones on the market, which is gonna be great for when i'm asking it for information without it being in my hand. ;D

    But moto also has some great sound cancelling technology. which is pretty cool.
    08-11-2013 03:55 PM
  24. MikeLip's Avatar
    It's new. It's all shiny and stuff. I want it. Game over.
    08-11-2013 04:16 PM
  25. roadkizzle's Avatar
    i wouldn't go so far to say that, and reviews i've read note that. I mean, there's no way you're getting close to boom sound with those huge *** speakers on the top and bottom of that phone, even though motorola makes great speakers (i've heard the Moto on you tube, it's pretty awesome for a regular phone). BS is fuller, it's for music, and it's awesome. X has great speakers compared to most other phones on the market, which is gonna be great for when i'm asking it for information without it being in my hand. ;D

    But moto also has some great sound cancelling technology. which is pretty cool.
    I wasn't trying to say that the Moto X speaker is fully better than the Boomsound, just that the HTC One doesn't have the advantage over the Moto X that it does over the other phones in regards to its music and speakerphone capabilities.

    While Boomsound is a determining factor against most other phones it is only a small benefit over the Moto X while I find much more pros for the Moto X.
    08-11-2013 04:20 PM
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