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  1. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    Wouldn't be fair trade, galaxy s 3 can do a lot more than the moto x. 2012 was a great year for samsung.

    Posted via Android Central App
    El. Oh. El.
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    08-27-2013 03:55 PM
  2. JHBThree's Avatar
    No one ever said it wasn't the same. Oh yeah except for my huge battery and my phone isnt glued together.

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    That the best you can do? Hate to break it to you, but with no exposed screws Motorola has to keep the Maxx together somehow, and it isn't by magic.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    08-27-2013 03:57 PM
  3. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    That the best you can do? Hate to break it to you, but with no exposed screws Motorola has to keep the Maxx together somehow, and it isn't by magic.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    Magic? No.

    Obviously it's high-end velcro.
    08-27-2013 04:25 PM
  4. JungleLarry's Avatar
    No one ever said it wasn't the same. Oh yeah except for my huge battery and my phone isnt glued together.

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    You (wrongfully) criticize the Moto X for having an outdated chipset. Your Maxx has the same chipset. How does a battery and glue change that?
    Ry likes this.
    08-27-2013 04:27 PM
  5. Rigelian's Avatar
    You (wrongfully) criticize the Moto X for having an outdated chipset. Your Maxx has the same chipset. How does a battery and glue change that?
    You're not seriously going to hold him responsible for his own older arguments are you? That would be cruel.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
    Ry likes this.
    08-27-2013 04:43 PM
  6. Rigelian's Avatar
    Magic? No.

    Obviously it's high-end velcro.
    No it's tractor beams.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
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    08-27-2013 04:46 PM
  7. Aquila's Avatar
    The only thing outdated on the Moto X, from what I can tell, is the exclusivity deals. Carrier monogamy is so old fashioned that even my grandmother's jaw dropped.

    08-27-2013 04:51 PM
  8. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    I haven't broken my S3 at all, it doesn't even have a scratch. What did you do? Drop kick it? The phone's not the problem, you probably jammed the charger in too hard

    Sent from my SGH-I747 using AC Forums mobile app
    Yes, I drop kicked my phone. Considering I just barely said that I baby my electronic devices. And drop kicking would break the charging port and not the screen or anything.

    How would you even "jam the charger in too hard"? The little plug is like the size of a cheerio. Who can get enough leverage to jam the thing when it easily slides in with no problem? The problem began after I charged it in my truck with my travel charger (which was made by Samsung and I bought it from the ShopAndroid site). So I don't know if you're not supposed to charge the Galaxy S3 with travel chargers or what. If that is what broke it, they need to make them more efficient, or durable. OR they need to tell you when you buy it to never charge it in a vehicle.

    This isn't a thread about S3 charging problems though. I only mentioned that to someone else who said the Moto X wasn't as good as a phone that doesn't charge after one year of gentle use. (I really do LOVE my S3 aside from that. I just have to use wireless charging now).
    08-27-2013 04:55 PM
  9. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Yes, I drop kicked my phone. Considering I just barely said that I baby my electronic devices. And drop kicking would break the charging port and not the screen or anything.

    How would you even "jam the charger in too hard"? The little plug is like the size of a cheerio. Who can get enough leverage to jam the thing when it easily slides in with no problem? The problem began after I charged it in my truck with my travel charger (which was made by Samsung and I bought it from the ShopAndroid site). So I don't know if you're not supposed to charge the Galaxy S3 with travel chargers or what. If that is what broke it, they need to make them more efficient, or durable. OR they need to tell you when you buy it to never charge it in a vehicle.

    This isn't a thread about S3 charging problems though. I only mentioned that to someone else who said the Moto X wasn't as good as a phone that doesn't charge after one year of gentle use. (I really do LOVE my S3 aside from that. I just have to use wireless charging now).
    Still, you probably broke it. And it takes like $10 and a screwdriver to fix it, all you need to do is replace the tiny board the micro USB port is attached to.

    Sent from my SGH-I747 using AC Forums mobile app
    08-27-2013 05:11 PM
  10. Raptor007's Avatar
    If you're paying for something built in the USA, then it is priced about right. They can always take their manufacturing to slaves and sell it to you cheap.
    Sorry, but I disagree. They are not employing 1000 american workers to make the Moto X, its mostly machine/robot made. The rising costs in China are forcing companies to look back to the USA for american mfg again since we are no longer considered super expensive. The parts are made in China, assembled in the US, that is a HUGE difference.
    08-27-2013 09:07 PM
  11. Raptor007's Avatar
    Well, I don't follow the logic here.

    People get the phone that suits their needs. Doesn't mean it is mediocre.

    What is it that you do exactly that needs all that power? Facebook?

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    are you saying you (or I) CAN'T explain SoC in one simple sentence?
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't use Facebook on a phone or tablet, and when and IF I actually visit which is less than 2 minutes a day so wish friends/family happy birthday I don't visit it EVER on my SMARTphone or any mobile device (save my laptop). As an IT consultant I need to carry alot of apps that work for my daily business needs and having a large bright screen with solid resolution is an important part of my day. So for the FB crowd this phone will do just fine.
    08-27-2013 09:10 PM
  12. Raptor007's Avatar
    I think it's pretty well established that within the mobile device market there are sub markets that are not necessarily strongly overlapping.

    Generally the Note 2 (and 3) customer is not the same as the iPhone customer, which is a far cry from the Windows Phone customer, etc. Those are probably the three extremes, but for a 4th extreme one could throw in the Nexus and treat customer likes and dislikes as a measurable spectrum. Some people do want small devices, some want huge, some want fat, some want skinny. Some want popular, some want subtle.

    There's not much that's inherently better in one end of the spectrum versus the other, in an absolute sense. But when two similar devices, say the HTC One and Moto X are compared, it's easier to draw the parallels.

    Moto doesn't have anything right now that would appeal to the Note crowd except MAYBE the Droid Maxx, but it's still not really in the same category in anything but battery life.
    I agree with you on that. Sadly for me I was a huge user of Moto devices for many, many years and like Nortel Networks they simply fell behind and ultimately Moto had to be gobbled up to be saved. But can they truly be what they once were. I hope so but not if their main focus is Verion and the "Droid" brand. They have previously stated they have no interest in the Phablet space, which is fine, they will simply lose that market share to Samsung and others. It does generate significant sales.
    08-27-2013 09:12 PM
  13. Raptor007's Avatar
    Oh the irony.
    I do have an iPad Mini for a few key reasons and none are embarrassing to me. First it was FREE. Second Android OEM's continue to FAIL at delivering a tablet with more than 32GB of storage, if it has 32GB of storage it does NOT have a microSD (important to me). I need storage for apps, content, work slides and other related documents for my business. The iPad mini was FREE for me to use has 64GB of storage, Verizon LTE and those are TWO things NONE of the Android tablets offer today.

    If Samsung would grow a pair of balls, sell the Galaxy Note 8 32GB either WiFi or with LTE (neutered it with 16GB less than 10GB usable) then I would have been on it. They don't so I won't buy it. Like I said before I have used every mobile OS on the market for the last 15 years, except for Symbian, (Firefox OS, Tizen and any other minor ones don't count its not in the US yet).

    So if you can find me a tablet that will work for my job needs with the storage needs I will sell my iPad mini and get that.
    08-27-2013 09:17 PM
  14. Raptor007's Avatar
    Actually, that's an ipad. He's talking about phones. I will say apple nailed tablets and is still on top with them. As for phones, yeah the iPhone is for ifan hipsters who will throw down hundreds just for the logo

    Sent from my SGH-I747 using AC Forums mobile app
    Thank you. I personally have sold off every Apple product I owned, tablets, iphones, macbook pro, iMac, etc and moved far away. But when you get an iPad mini for free and it meets your storage and work requirements you really cannot pass it up. I would love nothing more than to have the Nexus 7 actually show up on Verizon LTE you know before Christmas and have say 64GB of storage. The first may happen, the second will NEVER happen.
    08-27-2013 09:20 PM
  15. roadkizzle's Avatar
    Sorry, but I disagree. They are not employing 1000 american workers to make the Moto X, its mostly machine/robot made. The rising costs in China are forcing companies to look back to the USA for american mfg again since we are no longer considered super expensive. The parts are made in China, assembled in the US, that is a HUGE difference.
    The factory starting up in Fort Worth was actually employing 2000 workers by the end of this month with a goal to get to 3000 by the end of September. Granted, the Moto X is not the only product being assembled here but it is still a big driver for the new factory.
    08-27-2013 09:34 PM
  16. bryantest's Avatar
    Speaking of ranting about specs

    How about ranting about battery life?

    AnandTech | Moto X Review

    :P
    08-27-2013 10:14 PM
  17. osubeavs728's Avatar
    So for the FB crowd this phone will do just fine.
    but it wont do fine for any other crowd? is that what youre getting at?
    08-27-2013 10:30 PM
  18. Farish's Avatar
    So if you can find me a tablet that will work for my job needs with the storage needs I will sell my iPad mini and get that.
    Amazon.com: Microsoft Surface (64GB with Black Touch Cover): Computers & Accessories

    and you can add a sd card and a usb flash drive.

    Imagine that, you can have that and keep your principles too.
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    08-27-2013 10:30 PM
  19. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    but it wont do fine for any other crowd? is that what youre getting at?
    Basically.

    It's like the successor to the HTC First... Right guys? :rollseyes:
    osubeavs728 likes this.
    08-28-2013 12:03 AM
  20. lingcod777's Avatar
    Speaking of ranting about specs

    How about ranting about battery life?

    AnandTech | Moto X Review

    :P
    I saw this yesterday and haven't fully digested how to interpret the results (didn't find the test details in the privies reviews I quickly searched throughI'm sure they are there somewhere). Are the results offset to take into account the battery capacity? The graphs speak for themselves in a constant usage situation (assuming the network conditions are consistent between the tests and the devices are transmitting roughly the same power) but it seems there's some missing information to support the conclusion that the Moto battery life claims are bogus. It might be valid for continuous use but not sure this holds for a typical use model in 24 hrs or if it's taking into account the different battery capacities.

    Interesting results, just not sure how that translates into actual battery life in a typical day with respect to different phones to use in a spec debate.
    08-28-2013 12:08 AM
  21. JHBThree's Avatar
    Amazon.com: Microsoft Surface (64GB with Black Touch Cover): Computers & Accessories

    and you can add a sd card and a usb flash drive.

    Imagine that, you can have that and keep your principles too.
    No LTE and the usable space on the surface after the OS is installed is only about 32 GB.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
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    08-28-2013 01:34 AM
  22. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Amazon.com: Microsoft Surface (64GB with Black Touch Cover): Computers & Accessories

    and you can add a sd card and a usb flash drive.

    Imagine that, you can have that and keep your principles too.
    I'll take it if you pay me

    Sent from my humble S4
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    08-28-2013 02:43 AM
  23. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Honestly, I don't think the moto x lives up to the expectations people have. It's a wonderful phone, but it Motorola included a micro SD card maybe people would be more willing to jump to the phone. It's the little things people like, it may not seem like much but it does make a difference to have the options of a micro SD card and removable battery and those sorts of things

    Sent from my SGH-I747 using AC Forums mobile app
    08-28-2013 06:19 AM
  24. matt-helm#AC's Avatar
    Honestly, I don't think the moto x lives up to the expectations people have. It's a wonderful phone, but it Motorola included a micro SD card maybe people would be more willing to jump to the phone. It's the little things people like, it may not seem like much but it does make a difference to have the options of a micro SD card and removable battery and those sorts of things

    Sent from my SGH-I747 using AC Forums mobile app
    In the past 2 months I've used a iPhone 5 -> GS4 -> Nokia 920 -> HTC One -> Moto X.

    For me the 16gb vs 32gb is irrelevant. I have dropbox with all my "crap" in it. I don't use my phone as a mp3 player. I'll toss an audio book on it every once in awhile, but that's it. I don't use my phone for serious gaming... so there's not a ton of games on it. I'm not going to put TV shows or Movies on it either. I have a 14" laptop to consume media. I'm not sure what else i'de fill the space up with?

    Removable battery is irrelevant to me as well. If I needed that extra juice I guess keeping after having an extra battery and keeping that charged would annoy me. There's always those quick charge usb devices if I really needed some extra battery time.

    So this is just HOW I use my phone. I'm not sure where I fit in with everyone else.. but micro sd and removable battery just don't matter to me at all.
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    08-28-2013 07:30 AM
  25. Farish's Avatar
    No LTE and the usable space on the surface after the OS is installed is only about 32 GB.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    He said earlier he would buy a Wifi or LTE Note 8 if it was bigger.

    If Samsung would grow a pair of balls, sell the Galaxy Note 8 32GB either WiFi or with LTE (neutered it with 16GB less than 10GB usable)
    Also even though the surface is only 32gb usable space, after the SD Slot and flash drive he could easily add another 192gb.
    08-28-2013 07:47 AM
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