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  1. garublador's Avatar
    I just call it planning ahead with some variety. I don't need to have ALL my music at anyone one time. Like I said, it's a different way of looking at things.
    We're probably arguing the same point from different angles. We're both arguing that there are very good reasons to both need lots of storage and not need lots of storage. Neither is objectively better, it depends on how you'll use the phone. I think that in a few years it won't matter because we'll get lots of storage compared to the size of a song as the standard amount of internal memory.
    08-28-2013 03:15 PM
  2. Dregur's Avatar
    We're probably arguing the same point from different angles. We're both arguing that there are very good reasons to both need lots of storage and not need lots of storage. Neither is objectively better, it depends on how you'll use the phone. I think that in a few years it won't matter because we'll get lots of storage compared to the size of a song as the standard amount of internal memory.
    Oh, I'm absolutely sure that's whats happening. :P

    I was never trying to comment if anything was objectively better, I think my original argument was against the idea that only "iSheeple" or any sort of un-educated consumer didn't need more storage. I was trying to prove the point that I just adapted and my reasons for adapting that way.
    08-28-2013 03:23 PM
  3. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Oh, I'm absolutely sure that's whats happening. :P

    I was never trying to comment if anything was objectively better, I think my original argument was against the idea that only "iSheeple" or any sort of un-educated consumer didn't need more storage. I was trying to prove the point that I just adapted and my reasons for adapting that way.
    If you only use 16 gigs of storage space, you don't use your phone like it's supposed to be used. I'm just saying, extra memory and a removable battery are things the smart consumer would look into.

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    08-28-2013 05:38 PM
  4. JungleLarry's Avatar
    If you only use 16 gigs of storage space, you don't use your phone like it's supposed to be used. I'm just saying, extra memory and a removable battery are things the smart consumer would look into.

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    i gess im just 2 stoopid to by phonez then!
    08-28-2013 05:45 PM
  5. JHBThree's Avatar
    If you only use 16 gigs of storage space, you don't use your phone like it's supposed to be used. I'm just saying, extra memory and a removable battery are things the smart consumer would look into.

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    That's incredibly insulting.

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    08-28-2013 05:54 PM
  6. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    If you only use 16 gigs of storage space, you don't use your phone like it's supposed to be used. I'm just saying, extra memory and a removable battery are things the smart consumer would look into.

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    Sales figures disagree with your rude, judgemental statement. See: iPhone. Case closed.

    If you're still carrying around memory cards and extra batteries, you're doing it wrong.

    See? People have opinions. No need to get snarky when yours don't align with anothers.

    Personally, I'm glad removable storage is disappearing outside of Samsung. That said, I also don't feel as though users should be forced to use cloud services.

    On-board storage is still by and large the best solution out there. I have a Nexus 4 and a 3GB data plan, and I also use Spotify for music and a 50GB box.net account for extra storage. Does that work? Sure. Quite well, actually. But I'd be lying if I said I don't envy 64GB iPhone's...

    In the end, different strokes for different folks. No need to get nasty about it.
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    08-28-2013 06:04 PM
  7. Aquila's Avatar
    I guess I use my smartphone primarily as a communication device... phone, texts, e-mail, forums, social stuff and a little media consumption and games. Music streams infinitely, documents are on Drive and pictures are on dropbox and google +. My device has 21.71GB free of the 28.13GB available from 32GB on the side of the box. My tablet has many more games and some books on it, otherwise it also streams music and videos and photos go to the cloud and get taken off the device.

    I used to have problems with storage on older devices, but ever since All Access from Google Play Music and Auto Backup for photos the need for massive storage just isn't there for how I use my devices. I know I have a couple hundred GB worth of stuff out there, but at once time it seems like no more than 10 or so has to be on the device.

    So... using a device within it's limitations and maximizing the efficiency of resources available makes one stupid. That sucks. I used to consider myself to be somewhat competent.
    08-28-2013 06:10 PM
  8. grooks's Avatar
    If you only use 16 gigs of storage space, you don't use your phone like it's supposed to be used. I'm just saying, extra memory and a removable battery are things the smart consumer would look into.
    Expandable storage and removable battery may be the ideal situation for you, but don't call everyone else who doesn't want or need those options stupid.

    I do have an external battery charger for those times I need an extra boost to my battery. It is preferable to me rather than shutting down the phone, removing the back cover, taking out the dead battery, putting in a new battery, putting the back cover on then powering up the phone.

    I've had phones with expandable storage and found that I just don't use it. I personally utilize the cloud for my pictures, documents and music. If I'm on a flight and want to use my phone for music then I have the option to download 5 or 6 hours worth of music without worrying about running out of storage space on my 16gb phone.
    08-28-2013 06:14 PM
  9. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    This is why I said "the smart consumer". It's your opinion, but why waste all that data when you don't have to. And I don't carry around spare batteries and micro SD cards, I use a single 64 gb card for movies, music, TV, everything. And the funny thing is, those 64 gb iphones are like 500 bucks on contract, where I paid 200 bucks plus 20 for the card. Cloud storage? More excuse for not having enough storage on non expandable phones

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    08-28-2013 06:14 PM
  10. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    That's incredibly insulting.

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    Insulting..... Truth...... Insulting.... Truth?
    Sorry, that's the truth. And the truth is served ice cold

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    08-28-2013 06:23 PM
  11. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    More excuse for not having enough storage on non expandable phones

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    More like the cloud is the inevitable future as devices abandon archaic technologies such as removable storage.
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    08-28-2013 06:23 PM
  12. grooks's Avatar
    Cloud storage? More excuse for not having enough storage on non expandable phones
    Actually cloud storage means I can listen to my music on my phone, work computer, home computer, tablet and chromecast. I can view photos from my phone, work computer, home computer and tablet. Documents can be viewed and updated via my phone, work computer, home computer and tablet. I can watch tv shows and movies.....you get the idea.
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    08-28-2013 06:24 PM
  13. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    i gess im just 2 stoopid to by phonez then!
    Never said you guys were stupid, it's just you don't think the proper way sometimes. You're all very capable of using phones and loving android, it's just the options you choose for the phone aren't so great

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    08-28-2013 06:24 PM
  14. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Actually cloud storage means I can listen to my music on my phone, work computer, home computer, tablet and chromecast. I can view photos from my phone, work computer, home computer and tablet. Documents can be viewed and updated via my phone, work computer, home computer and tablet. I can watch tv shows and movies.....you get the idea.
    Yes.... For a fee. Where I can have all of it local, without Internet, for no fees and supreme quality. I'll be sure to use this "cloud *cough* ripoff *cough* storage

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    08-28-2013 06:26 PM
  15. Tele_Phone's Avatar
    Never said you guys were stupid, it's just you don't think the proper way sometimes. You're all very capable of using phones and loving android, it's just the options you choose for the phone aren't so great

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    :thumbdown:

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    08-28-2013 06:29 PM
  16. Aquila's Avatar
    Never said you guys were stupid, it's just you don't think the proper way sometimes. You're all very capable of using phones and loving android, it's just the options you choose for the phone aren't so great

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    They're not so great for how you use your devices. For the way we (or at least I, I'm loathe to speak for everyone else) use our devices, it seems to be working out perfectly. Optimization is relative to the tasks you're trying to complete and what measures you're trying to solve for.
    08-28-2013 06:29 PM
  17. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Okay okay, let's set this straight. I use cloud as well, don't use an SD card, and always stream. Good to see you guys are making the right choices. I'm just screwing with you guys. And for the mods, no this is not anything bad. Think of it as an "experiment". You should have seen what the people of tumblr said: "screw cloud storage! SD cards for life!" absolutely awesome, thanks for participating in the experiment

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    08-28-2013 06:31 PM
  18. Aquila's Avatar
    Yes.... For a fee. Where I can have all of it local, without Internet, for no fees and supreme quality. I'll be sure to use this "cloud *cough* ripoff *cough* storage

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    I'm not paying any fees to have 100% of my content available on 100% of my devices, irregardless of platform aside from my home internet and normal mobile subscription. I pay for that by participating in Google's ecosystem, but it costs $0.00 in dollars (other than Google Play Music All Access, which is $7.99 but that's not required to use Google Play Music for up to 20,000 songs for free). If you want to listen to the same song on 5 devices, you're saying you have it stored locally on 5 devices. I have it stored on 0 devices. For the way I use my devices my way is MUCH more efficient. I never have to copy things from one device to another, never have to remember where something is... it's just everywhere, all the time, on every major operating system.
    08-28-2013 06:33 PM
  19. Rigelian's Avatar
    Actually cloud storage means I can listen to my music on my phone, work computer, home computer, tablet and chromecast. I can view photos from my phone, work computer, home computer and tablet. Documents can be viewed and updated via my phone, work computer, home computer and tablet. I can watch tv shows and movies.....you get the idea.
    This is precisely the reason why I prefer cloud storage. I can pick up any and all my devices and know that I can get access to my data. Given that I have 2TB of data available for free, it makes sense that I use it.

    If I need media for the short run, where a signal isn't available, I can just download it.

    I have an SD card in my S3 and it sits in the phone unused.

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    08-28-2013 06:36 PM
  20. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    I'm not paying any fees to have 100% of my content available on 100% of my devices, irregardless of platform aside from my home internet and normal mobile subscription. I pay for that by participating in Google's ecosystem, but it costs $0.00 in dollars (other than Google Play Music All Access, which is $7.99 but that's not required to use Google Play Music for up to 20,000 songs for free). If you want to listen to the same song on 5 devices, you're saying you have it stored locally on 5 devices. I have it stored on 0 devices. For the way I use my devices my way is MUCH more efficient. I never have to copy things from one device to another, never have to remember where something is... it's just everywhere, all the time, on every major operating system.
    Did you see the above post? Just explained it was an experiment between android central and tumblr.

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    08-28-2013 06:37 PM
  21. Aquila's Avatar
    Did you see the above post? Just explained it was an experiment between android central and tumblr.

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    Yep, read that about 5 seconds after I hit the gray arrow.
    08-28-2013 06:42 PM
  22. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Yep, read that about 5 seconds after I hit the gray arrow.
    Yeah, sorry about the harsh way of doing it. I knew you would defend it more if I did it that way. It's actually tough to defend because local storage is so out of date now with everything being online

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    08-28-2013 06:44 PM
  23. JungleLarry's Avatar
    Never said you guys were stupid, it's just you don't think the proper way sometimes. You're all very capable of using phones and loving android, it's just the options you choose for the phone aren't so great

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    Do you teach classes on thinking the "proper way?" Where do I sign up? I need to free myself from this cage of ill-thought.
    08-28-2013 06:56 PM
  24. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Do you teach classes on thinking the "proper way?" Where do I sign up? I need to free myself from this cage of ill-thought.
    Just explained it was an experiment farther up. Please read it, then you will understand

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    08-28-2013 06:58 PM
  25. JungleLarry's Avatar
    It would make more sense if I didn't think you were full of crap.

    Thanks for the test though, professor. You really got us good.
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    08-28-2013 06:58 PM
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