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  1. Farish's Avatar
    Who in their RIGHT mind would actually want a MS Windows RT tablet. It is beyond comprehension. First you don't actually get 64GB of storage, they have a huge chunk sucked up by the recovery partition. Second Cisco Systems only offers apps for iOS AND Android, no Windows Mobile support and that is critical to my job. Plus again the iPad Mini WAS FREE. I am not interested in buying another tablet when I have a free one provided to me.

    I also do have a Windows 8 17.3" HP Laptop with dual 750GB HDD, Blu-Ray DVDRW drive, 16GB RAM and 2GB NVidia graphics card that cost half of a MBP that is no where near as comparably configured. So once again. I have the tools that work.
    Ok lets start off with this statement you made.

    So if you can find me a tablet that will work for my job needs with the storage needs I will sell my iPad mini and get that.
    You never mention cisco, I gave you a scenario where you could get more storage that your iPad Mini you even ignore that part. Also as you stated, you are willing to sell it, that was your statement, not mine. You also are ignoring the SD slot and usb port as additional options.

    Second, maybe RT will not work for you but there are Windows 8 tablets with SD slots and usb ports that run a full version of Windows 8, including the professional. You can still get your storage needs and still use cisco anyconnect. So the option is there and as I said previously you can add an additional 192gb of storage.

    Maybe part of the problem is your lack of flexibility more than anything else.
    08-30-2013 12:10 AM
  2. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Long battery life? I'm dying here xD

    Posted via my awesome rooted Nexus 4 and Android Central App)
    Have you actually used a Surface RT for extended periods of time? It does have really good battery life. It's obviously not a powerhouse, but battery life was NEVER a problem with it.
    08-30-2013 12:13 AM
  3. JHBThree's Avatar
    Ok lets start off with this statement you made.



    You never mention cisco, I gave you a scenario where you could get more storage that your iPad Mini you even ignore that part. Also as you stated, you are willing to sell it, that was your statement, not mine. You also are ignoring the SD slot and usb port as additional options.

    Second, maybe RT will not work for you but there are Windows 8 tablets with SD slots and usb ports that run a full version of Windows 8, including the professional. You can still get your storage needs and still use cisco anyconnect. So the option is there and as I said previously you can add an additional 192gb of storage.

    Maybe part of the problem is your lack of flexibility more than anything else.
    Or, did you think he maybe didn't want a windows tablet? Based on what he has said, a windows tablet wouldn't fit his needs. Who are you to tell him otherwise?

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    08-30-2013 12:24 AM
  4. Farish's Avatar
    Or, did you think he maybe didn't want a windows tablet? Based on what he has said, a windows tablet wouldn't fit his needs. Who are you to tell him otherwise?

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    RT wouldn't but based on his statement there are only 3 Cisco Apps available for the iPad, Anyconnect, WebEx, and Jabber, and all those work on Windows 8 professional. When it comes to RT, he is correct, but had I know he was talking about Cisco I wouldn't have suggest RT in the first place.
    08-30-2013 12:28 AM
  5. anon5664829's Avatar
    Have you actually used a Surface RT for extended periods of time? It does have really good battery life. It's obviously not a powerhouse, but battery life was NEVER a problem with it.
    Yes actually. My friend had one. I personally found battery to be bad with it. I mean I find the Nexus 7 battery bad as well. The iPads get best battery life for me.

    Posted via my awesome rooted Nexus 4 and Android Central App)
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    08-30-2013 01:37 AM
  6. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Yes actually. My friend had one. I personally found battery to be bad with it. I mean I find the Nexus 7 battery bad as well. The iPads get best battery life for me.

    Posted via my awesome rooted Nexus 4 and Android Central App)
    That the iPad gets great battery life hasn't been disputed. That doesn't make the rest crap. Nexus 7 beats it for web browsing, and the Surface RT is even competitive. Not a bad showing for Microsoft's first generation tablet.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6385/m...rface-review/9

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7231/t...-2013-review/2

    Apple is doing something good with video playback. Kudos to them. Too bad I do far more web browsing than video watching. :-) For me, Nexus 7 has better battery life.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
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    08-30-2013 01:58 AM
  7. Aquila's Avatar
    That the iPad gets great battery life hasn't been disputed. That doesn't make the rest crap. Nexus 7 beats it for web browsing, and the Surface RT is even competitive. Not a bad showing for Microsoft's first generation tablet.

    AnandTech | Microsoft Surface Review

    AnandTech | The Nexus 7 (2013) Review

    Apple is doing something good with video playback. Kudos to them. Too bad I do far more web browsing than video watching. :-) For me, Nexus 7 has better battery life.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
    You're making it sound like different devices are better for different use cases and there is no clear leader in the absolute bestest at everything. Maybe that earlier commentor was closer to the mark than we feared. You've stolen my argument!

    We are the Borg. Resistance is futile. Preparedness is irrelevant. You will be assimilated.

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    I mean I find the Nexus 7 battery bad as well
    You've seen my screenshots though. There's no denying the N7 has a beastly battery life for how I use it. I kinda wonder how long an iPad would last with what I do... who knows, maybe it'd be even better?
    08-30-2013 02:18 AM
  8. Aquila's Avatar
    I wouldn't have suggest RT in the first place.
    Someone forgot to tell Microsoft that you never go full RT.
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    08-30-2013 02:20 AM
  9. anon5664829's Avatar
    That the iPad gets great battery life hasn't been disputed. That doesn't make the rest crap. Nexus 7 beats it for web browsing, and the Surface RT is even competitive. Not a bad showing for Microsoft's first generation tablet.

    AnandTech | Microsoft Surface Review

    AnandTech | The Nexus 7 (2013) Review

    Apple is doing something good with video playback. Kudos to them. Too bad I do far more web browsing than video watching. :-) For me, Nexus 7 has better battery life.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
    Point taken. But I am just so spoilt by the battery life on my iPad 4.Intersting read Kevin, I had thought the iPad had the nexus 7 beat in battery period. Guess you learn something new everyday
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    08-30-2013 03:03 AM
  10. trandz's Avatar
    Wow. Now were arguing about the competitors Microsoft vs Apple in a thread meant to argue about Android specs =P.

    I've seen it all.
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    08-30-2013 09:02 AM
  11. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    You're making it sound like different devices are better for different use cases and there is no clear leader in the absolute bestest at everything. Maybe that earlier commentor was closer to the mark than we feared. You've stolen my argument!

    We are the Borg. Resistance is futile. Preparedness is irrelevant. You will be assimilated.

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    You've seen my screenshots though. There's no denying the N7 has a beastly battery life for how I use it. I kinda wonder how long an iPad would last with what I do... who knows, maybe it'd be even better?
    I may have been implying that, yes.

    Wow. Now were arguing about the competitors Microsoft vs Apple in a thread meant to argue about Android specs =P.

    I've seen it all.
    Well, Apple generally leads the pack with GPU performance, and they manage great battery life (in general) at the same time. It's a valid point of discussion I think. We'll come back around I'm sure. We always do.
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    08-30-2013 09:32 AM
  12. snookasnoo's Avatar
    Because they are over charging for a phone with 2012 specs and making it sound revolutionary.

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    Which tells us you know nothing about iPhones. So why comment.
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    08-30-2013 02:02 PM
  13. return_0's Avatar
    Which tells us you know nothing about iPhones. So why comment.
    Except he wasn't talking about the iPhone. Yes, his point is just as invalid (if not more so), but it doesn't relate to the iPhone.
    08-30-2013 06:42 PM
  14. thegrants82's Avatar
    Except he wasn't talking about the iPhone. Yes, his point is just as invalid (if not more so), but it doesn't relate to the iPhone.
    Yeah I was going to say that but .....not worth it

    Moto X
    08-30-2013 06:49 PM
  15. Rule9's Avatar
    Forum > Motorola Android Phones > Moto X
    Thread has been cleaned up of recent way off-topic activity.

    Have you actually used a Surface RT for extended periods of time? It does have really good battery life. It's obviously not a powerhouse, but battery life was NEVER a problem with it.








    (sorry Kevin but I couldn't resist )
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    08-31-2013 04:15 PM
  16. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar











    (sorry Kevin but I couldn't resist )
    They are extremely different types/levels of off-topic. :-)

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
    08-31-2013 04:17 PM
  17. Rule9's Avatar
    Thread has been cleaned up of recent way off-topic activity.
    They are extremely different types/levels of off-topic. :-)

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
    lmao good answer
    08-31-2013 04:18 PM
  18. Jennifer Stough's Avatar
    lmao good answer
    There is constructive off topic and nonconstructive off topic. Nonconstructive off topic tends to also derail the thread, in a negative manner. Ya feel me?
    08-31-2013 09:19 PM
  19. Aquila's Avatar
    Bottom line: Specs are interesting to start a conversation, especially when performance appears correlated directly to the hardware components. When we have device that are "lower spec'd" out performing the other flagships, it's time to admit either the correlation is false or the components of the former are more advanced and demean the value of a pure quantitative comparison. The end result we want is the performance (I *think* we all agree with that), and regardless of numbers, the Moto X is one of the best performing devices on the market; definitely worthy of the Android brand.
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    08-31-2013 09:22 PM
  20. RM83's Avatar
    Epic thread. Will read again haha.

    Posted via Android Central App
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    08-31-2013 09:48 PM
  21. Rule9's Avatar
    There is constructive off topic and nonconstructive off topic. Nonconstructive off topic tends to also derail the thread, in a negative manner. Ya feel me?
    Yes I do!
    09-02-2013 04:53 PM
  22. snookasnoo's Avatar
    People are right to say that specs on the X, at this point in time, aren't that important and that it runs well. But people are also right to say it's priced like a premium phone with mid-level specs. I don't care because I don't keep devices that long but if you can only afford a phone at the subsidized contract price and you keep it for two years then you are right to be concerned about how well it will perform a year or more from now.

    Why do people still argue about specs? Do you NOT get the bigger picture ?!

    Look at the iPhone. Its been "lagging behind in specs' since forever right? Yet look how it operates to the end-user. Its flawless. It doesn't stutter, it just works perfectly. Now when someone who isn't tech savy goes to look for a phone, they see an iPhone that doesnt hiccup at all and then a GS4 whose ALL-MIGHT SPECS still lag like its 2005. Samsung doesn't optimize its OS at all clearly. Doing simple **** like opening contacts LAG. Who wants that?! What person that goes to a store would want this after 2 minutes of playing with it they see that it just does not operate right? No body.

    Sure the GS4 is capable of more, but to the general person does it matter? Absolutely not! This is why iPhone is where it is. This is what Google is trying to accomplish here. Optimized specs for Google's software. Yes, its not the S800 quad-core 2.6GHZ with 5 gb of ram. So freakin' what?! The phone works! That Samcrap lag is gone! And on top of it, you get the benefits of an Android which is a more capable OS then iOS.

    People really need to stop ********.
    09-02-2013 07:05 PM
  23. garublador's Avatar
    People are right to say that specs on the X, at this point in time, aren't that important and that it runs well. But people are also right to say it's priced like a premium phone with mid-level specs. I don't care because I don't keep devices that long but if you can only afford a phone at the subsidized contract price and you keep it for two years then you are right to be concerned about how well it will perform a year or more from now.
    But isn't nearly every normal use test that's out there so far showing that it performs at least as well, if not better, than other current phones? If you believe benchmarks, I've only seen like a couple where it falls behind and it's been on pure computing power, which only might be important for some users. There are several benchmarks where it performs better than the other flagships.
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    09-03-2013 10:59 AM
  24. brianbrain's Avatar
    I don't see where anyone is coming from regarding "last year's specs". Let's break down what people are accusing of being "old":

    720p display: There were no 720p RGB stripe OLED panels on any phone in 2012. They were all pentile. Likewise, the 1080p panel on the sgs4 is pentile. Compare the Moto X to the SGS4 screen and tell me the SGS4's is way better (hint: it isn't). The HTC One is the only phone on the market with a display that is noticeably better.

    S4 Pro CPU: this thing shouldn't be named an S4 because its not - the S4 Pro SOCs of 2012 utilized Krait 200 cores - these are Krait 300, the very same cores in the SGS4 and HTC One. Only difference? Two instead of four. This actually works out to an advantage in many scenarios, due to the limited thermal and power envelope on our devices - see anandtech's article. I'll take two cores that can scale up to 100% as opposed to four cores that let one stay dormant nearly 100% of the time and cap the other three at ~60% max frequency. Oh, and the GPU is identical, however it also scales better thanks to the dual instead of quad CPU cores (remember, the whole SOC shares a TDP).

    And..oh right that's all everyone's complaining about. Huh. I guess the fact that the phone gets great battery life and is the smoothest android phone experience to date is just icing on the cake.

    Sent from my XT1030 using Tapatalk 4
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    09-03-2013 12:03 PM
  25. Aquila's Avatar
    Weird, right?

    Nexus. Through spacetime.
    09-03-2013 12:06 PM
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