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  1. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Steel, you're gonna get Jennifered. Be nice.

    Sent from my humble Note 8.0 LTE
    Exactly. And by Jennifered he means infraction points and your posts removed. Not fun man

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    08-26-2013 04:52 PM
  2. SteelGator's Avatar
    Steel, you're gonna get Jennifered. Be nice.

    Sent from my humble Note 8.0 LTE
    LOL. This thread has been off the rails since Kevin opened school around noon.
    08-26-2013 04:54 PM
  3. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    LOL. This thread has been off the rails since Kevin opened school around noon.
    Jennifer is watching..... Always watching


    Okay that was really creepy lol

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    08-26-2013 04:55 PM
  4. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    Gosh, I LOVE this thread.

    On the one hand, you have two educated users using proven statistics and well researched facts to support their arguments.

    On the other, you have a user repeating himself incessantly, while not actually providing any information to support his or her blind ignorance.

    "I'm right because I'm right."

    "I already told you I'm right."

    "I'll repeat myself again in case you're being paid by Motorola, but I'm right. Like I said before."

    So. Much. Win.
    Rigelian and Ry like this.
    08-26-2013 05:10 PM
  5. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Gosh, I LOVE this thread.

    On the one hand, you have two educated users using proven statistics and well researched facts to support their arguments.

    On the other, you have a user repeating himself incessantly, while not actually providing any information to support his or her blind ignorance.

    "I'm right because I'm right."

    "I already told you I'm right."

    "I'll repeat myself again in case you're being paid by Motorola, but I'm right. Like I said before."

    So. Much. Win.
    The sad thing is even though this device is awesome Motorola really failed on the screen and camera (screen is outdated and camera has bad quality)

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    08-26-2013 05:21 PM
  6. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Well, I don't have much to add as most people have covered the bases here.

    I will say this, Tegra 4 isn't 2013 tech, either, since clearly the A15 reference core from ARM is just a derivative of A9. Never mind the complete redesign and rebuild of the entire processing pipeline from start to finish, or the smaller manufacturing process, or the support they added in for various standards that are floating around out there.

    Oh, and the 2014 M5 doesn't share the same drive train as the 2012. Completely different. It changed in 2013. But that doesn't matter, since it's derivative of the tech found in 2012. I don't even know why they updated it at all.
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    08-26-2013 05:27 PM
  7. ajarnfalang's Avatar
    Gosh, I LOVE this thread.

    On the one hand, you have two educated users using proven statistics and well researched facts to support their arguments.

    On the other, you have a user repeating himself incessantly, while not actually providing any information to support his or her blind ignorance.

    "I'm right because I'm right."

    "I already told you I'm right."

    "I'll repeat myself again in case you're being paid by Motorola, but I'm right. Like I said before."

    So. Much. Win.
    The prove is in their own posts.

    1) They said the phone is running on Adreno 320

    2) then they said the phone doesn't have ANY 2012 technology.

    Hahahaha ha. Don't you see how stupid that is? Do you want me to give you a list of phones last year with Adreno 320?

    HTC Droid DNA
    Nexus 4
    Optimus G

    Should I continue?
    08-26-2013 05:30 PM
  8. roadkizzle's Avatar
    The sad thing is even though this device is awesome Motorola really failed on the screen and camera (screen is outdated and camera has bad quality)

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    I will give you the camera issue, and there really is no excuse although I don't think it's quite as bad as everyone makes it out to be, but there are more tradeoffs leading to a detrimental experience than there are benefits to having 720p on a 4.7" screen. The 1080p makes sense on phones the size of the G Pro, Note 2 or larger because then the pixel density actually matters, but not on the smaller screen.
    08-26-2013 05:31 PM
  9. Rigelian's Avatar
    LOL. This thread has been off the rails since Kevin opened school around noon.
    But it has been so entertainingly off the rails. Kind of like watching a train roar down a mountain side with a brake failure. It's all good...if you're not on the train itself.
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    08-26-2013 05:33 PM
  10. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    I will give you the camera issue, and there really is no excuse although I don't think it's quite as bad as everyone makes it out to be, but there are more tradeoffs leading to a detrimental experience than there are benefits to having 720p on a 4.7" screen. The 1080p makes sense on phones the size of the G Pro, Note 2 or larger because then the pixel density actually matters, but not on the smaller screen.
    True, but personally the only reason I didn't jump for this phone is the screen. Is it nice? Of course it is. But it's certainly not up to the standards of the HTC one and Galaxy s4.

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    08-26-2013 05:35 PM
  11. JungleLarry's Avatar
    The sad thing is even though this device is awesome Motorola really failed on the screen and camera (screen is outdated and camera has bad quality)

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    Pop quiz: Which one of these represents the newest screen panel technology?

    1. LCD
    2. Pentile AMOLED
    3. RGB AMOLED

    Two of these are used by current "high end" smartphones (HTC One, Galaxy S4), and the other is used by the "mid-range" Moto X. Can you guess which one goes where?
    08-26-2013 05:37 PM
  12. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Pop quiz: Which one of these represents the newest screen panel technology?

    1. LCD
    2. Pentile AMOLED
    3. RGB AMOLED

    Two of these are used by current "high end" smartphones (HTC One, Galaxy S4), and the other is used by the "mid-range" Moto X. Can you guess which one goes where?
    The galaxy s4 uses pentile amoled because I remember reading an article on it. I'm pretty sure the HTC one uses LCD and the moto x uses RGB amoled

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    08-26-2013 05:39 PM
  13. ajarnfalang's Avatar
    LOL. This thread has been off the rails since Kevin opened school around noon.
    Do you mean the guy who copied and pasted a bunch of stuff from Google?

    Doesn't mean much. The phone is still running 2012 technology.

    None of his long copy pastes erase the fact that the phone has a GPU that was out in 2012. Adreno 320.
    08-26-2013 05:39 PM
  14. ajarnfalang's Avatar
    Pop quiz: Which one of these represents the newest screen panel technology?

    1. LCD
    2. Pentile AMOLED
    3. RGB AMOLED

    Two of these are used by current "high end" smartphones (HTC One, Galaxy S4), and the other is used by the "mid-range" Moto X. Can you guess which one goes where?
    Pop Quiz:

    Does an S4 Pro Krait 300 running Adreno 320 represent totally new 2013 technology?
    08-26-2013 05:41 PM
  15. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Pop Quiz:

    Does an S4 Pro Krait 300 running Adreno 320 represent totally new 2013 technology?
    No it doesn't, but seriously guys who cares

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    08-26-2013 05:42 PM
  16. JungleLarry's Avatar
    The galaxy s4 uses pentile amoled because I remember reading an article on it. I'm pretty sure the HTC one uses LCD and the moto x uses RGB amoled

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    Okay, so how is that a "fail" on Motorola's part? Samsung was using Pentile matrix because it was previously considered impossible to get a satisfactory pixel density (300+ ppi) out of an AMOLED screen with traditional RGB technology. The Moto X accomplished that.
    08-26-2013 05:42 PM
  17. Farish's Avatar
    The way product pipelines work, most phones are using 3-4 year old or older technology......

    Like that thing called LTE...
    08-26-2013 05:44 PM
  18. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Pop quiz: Which one of these represents the newest screen panel technology?

    1. LCD
    2. Pentile AMOLED
    3. RGB AMOLED

    Two of these are used by current "high end" smartphones (HTC One, Galaxy S4), and the other is used by the "mid-range" Moto X. Can you guess which one goes where?

    I can.
    08-26-2013 05:44 PM
  19. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Okay, so how is that a "fail" on Motorola's part? Samsung was using Pentile matrix because it was previously considered impossible to get a satisfactory pixel density (300+ ppi) out of an AMOLED screen with traditional RGB technology. The Moto X accomplished that.
    It's a "fail" because you see Samsung and HTC pushing 400+ pixel full 1080p displays. And this is for around the same price when you start a contract. That's the real fail. Why go for something below the standard and still pay the same amount as a top of the line phone?

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    08-26-2013 05:44 PM
  20. Haalcyon's Avatar
    Oh the S4's screen isn't that bad. Text is very sharp and I like the cartoonist colors. Has there been any reports of S4 screens with dead pixels? IDK. Screen burn-in. Yeahp. I hope mine is gone before that happens. Otherwise my S4 rocks in all its glorious plasticness.

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    08-26-2013 05:45 PM
  21. JungleLarry's Avatar
    It's a "fail" because you see Samsung and HTC pushing 400+ pixel full 1080p displays. And this is for around the same price when you start a contract. That's the real fail. Why go for something below the standard and still pay the same amount as a top of the line phone?

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    08-26-2013 05:47 PM
  22. Aquila's Avatar
    Pop Quiz:

    Does an S4 Pro Krait 300 running Adreno 320 represent totally new 2013 technology?
    You have an android device with krait 300s from prior to April? A key element of the soc explanation is that it is not modular. Either way, that would only be the end of what you're missing if it wasn't custom. By definition, a custom product is different than others. The first X8 mobile computing system went on sale this August. That makes it Q3 2013 tech. Your explanation still relegates the S4, One, G2 and Note 3 to being 2012 devices, in addition to the droids and x.

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    08-26-2013 05:49 PM
  23. ajarnfalang's Avatar
    The way product pipelines work, most phones are using 3-4 year old or older technology......

    Like that thing called LTE...
    And the guy said "There is NO 2012 technology in this phone".

    And here you agree that this statement is untrue.

    I told him that and then they went in a frantic rampage of copying and pasting crap from Google about the definitions of SoC.

    And the meltdown still continues. Wait for them to come back and argue that the "X8" makes an Adreno 320 GPU totally new.
    08-26-2013 05:50 PM
  24. Jeremy_Collinsworth's Avatar
    Oh I guarantee I'm getting in trouble with the mods for this, but: JungleLarry you wanna continue being a smart-***? Or enjoy the site like everyone else? Damn you are set on defending that screen

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    08-26-2013 05:50 PM
  25. thegrants82's Avatar
    Oh I guarantee I'm getting in trouble with the mods for this, but: JungleLarry you wanna continue being a smart-***? Or enjoy the site like everyone else? Damn you are set on defending that screen

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    I think that jungle larry is correct.

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    08-26-2013 05:52 PM
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