09-07-2013 11:04 AM
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  1. Travisimo's Avatar
    That, my friends, is why you should never judge a device by specs alone.

    However, I won't be getting a Moto X, because it's camera is mediocre in low-light situations and the fact that the mic is always-on, kinda creeps me out.

    It's just my decision. Happy to hear that you're enjoying yours, though!
    After using the Moto X since last Friday, the camera is one of those things that I was expecting to be bad, but in actuality isn't. Yes, the colors can be somewhat muted at times. But man are there a LOT of nice things about the camera:

    - Very fast shutter, both in terms of shutter lag (time it takes to take a photo) and shutter speed (does really well capturing motion)
    - Twist wrist activation. I know this can be done on other phones, but I really love the ability to just twist my wrist to open the camera. Not needing to press a button or swipe a gesture to open the camera is indispensable, imo.
    - Low light performance is actually pretty decent, imo. Not up to HTC One levels, but pretty competitive with the average Smartphone camera. I was expecting a blotchy mess, and it's actually not that bad.
    - Slow Motion video capture is fun
    - I was also able to install a GPE camera APK and get Photosphere to work pretty well on the Moto X. It doesn't overwrite the stock camera/gallery - it installs alongside them.

    And regarding the microphone always being on, you don't need to have that turned on if you don't want to use it.

    Here are some photos I took last night near the river (hopefully I shared them properly):
    https://plus.google.com/113546634825...ts/5Q6NGrP8AvZ
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    09-05-2013 09:30 AM
  2. gbkrip's Avatar
    After using the Moto X since last Friday, the camera is one of those things that I was expecting to be bad, but in actuality isn't. Yes, the colors can be somewhat muted at times. But man are there a LOT of nice things about the camera:

    - Very fast shutter, both in terms of shutter lag (time it takes to take a photo) and shutter speed (does really well capturing motion)
    - Twist wrist activation. I know this can be done on other phones, but I really love the ability to just twist my wrist to open the camera. Not needing to press a button or swipe a gesture to open the camera is indispensable, imo.
    - Low light performance is actually pretty decent, imo. Not up to HTC One levels, but pretty competitive with the average Smartphone camera. I was expecting a blotchy mess, and it's actually not that bad.
    - Slow Motion video capture is fun
    - I was also able to install a GPE camera APK and get Photosphere to work pretty well on the Moto X. It doesn't overwrite the stock camera/gallery - it installs alongside them.

    And regarding the microphone always being on, you don't need to have that turned on if you don't want to use it.

    Here are some photos I took last night near the river (hopefully I shared them properly):
    https://plus.google.com/113546634825...ts/5Q6NGrP8AvZ
    The album tells me that the camera issue is overblown. It doesn't seem THAT bad? However, the shots without HDR really do appear muted. Specifically, the waterfront without HDR and the red flower without HDR. Those do not look good in my opinion.

    Thanks for sharing those!
    09-05-2013 09:47 AM
  3. Strawdawg's Avatar
    I think the "lousy", "bad", camera comments are way over blown and I suspect most come from those that don't actually own the camera. Some of the colors that are often called "muted" actually look more real to me than those from cameras that emphasize the greens and blues. I have taken many a picture that I thought were really beautiful compared to what my eye saw due to this emphasis.
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    09-05-2013 10:03 AM
  4. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    After using the Moto X since last Friday, the camera is one of those things that I was expecting to be bad, but in actuality isn't. Yes, the colors can be somewhat muted at times. But man are there a LOT of nice things about the camera:

    - Very fast shutter, both in terms of shutter lag (time it takes to take a photo) and shutter speed (does really well capturing motion)
    - Twist wrist activation. I know this can be done on other phones, but I really love the ability to just twist my wrist to open the camera. Not needing to press a button or swipe a gesture to open the camera is indispensable, imo.
    - Low light performance is actually pretty decent, imo. Not up to HTC One levels, but pretty competitive with the average Smartphone camera. I was expecting a blotchy mess, and it's actually not that bad.
    - Slow Motion video capture is fun
    - I was also able to install a GPE camera APK and get Photosphere to work pretty well on the Moto X. It doesn't overwrite the stock camera/gallery - it installs alongside them.

    And regarding the microphone always being on, you don't need to have that turned on if you don't want to use it.

    Here are some photos I took last night near the river (hopefully I shared them properly):
    https://plus.google.com/113546634825...ts/5Q6NGrP8AvZ
    Thanks for clarifying.
    09-05-2013 10:13 AM
  5. Wildo6882's Avatar
    After using the Moto X since last Friday, the camera is one of those things that I was expecting to be bad, but in actuality isn't. Yes, the colors can be somewhat muted at times. But man are there a LOT of nice things about the camera:

    - Very fast shutter, both in terms of shutter lag (time it takes to take a photo) and shutter speed (does really well capturing motion)
    - Twist wrist activation. I know this can be done on other phones, but I really love the ability to just twist my wrist to open the camera. Not needing to press a button or swipe a gesture to open the camera is indispensable, imo.
    - Low light performance is actually pretty decent, imo. Not up to HTC One levels, but pretty competitive with the average Smartphone camera. I was expecting a blotchy mess, and it's actually not that bad.
    - Slow Motion video capture is fun
    - I was also able to install a GPE camera APK and get Photosphere to work pretty well on the Moto X. It doesn't overwrite the stock camera/gallery - it installs alongside them.

    And regarding the microphone always being on, you don't need to have that turned on if you don't want to use it.

    Here are some photos I took last night near the river (hopefully I shared them properly):
    https://plus.google.com/113546634825...ts/5Q6NGrP8AvZ
    If you leave HDR on how does that effect shutter speed and the amount of time it takes to capture a photo? I'm struggling between this, the S4, and the One. One of the most important aspects to a phone for me is the camera. I take a TON of quick pics of my daughter and like to have something that works well and works quickly. Thanks for the post, btw. Where along the Mississippi was that?
    09-05-2013 10:16 AM
  6. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    So I am here to eat crow. I will be the first to admit that throughout the release of the Moto X I have posted some less than kind comments about the device being "worth" the money. Over the last few days I have developed an interest in the device mainly by seeing all of the positive comments from actual users. The main things that interested me in the X were the size of the device and the better battery life.

    I was still hesitant mainly because of the perceived downgrade in screen quality (from HTC ONE to Moto X) and what I would lose as far as loudspeaker quality and loudness with the ONE.

    I bit the bullet and picked one up today and wow was I ever wrong. This is by far the smoothest, most fluid device I have ever used! I decided to push the envelope and open up about 40 apps while downloading another 20 at the same time and not one time did it lag or stutter.

    The best way to describe this device is it's comfortable to use. The size is perfect and the active notifications are really useful. I have medium sized hands and it's nice to actually be able to reach all 4 corners of the screen without having to re-position my hand. Motorola knocked it out of the park on this one and I will now admit what others have been trying to say, it's not just about the specs........

    I will be selling my ONE to replenish my bank account for the X purchase
    Glad to hear you like the device. I am hoping that Moto can make a comeback starting with this. We need to have more options in Smartphones other than Samsung and Apple....
    09-05-2013 10:18 AM
  7. gbkrip's Avatar
    I think the "lousy", "bad", camera comments are way over blown and I suspect most come from those that don't actually own the camera. Some of the colors that are often called "muted" actually look more real to me than those from cameras that emphasize the greens and blues. I have taken many a picture that I thought were really beautiful compared to what my eye saw due to this emphasis.
    I understand what you're saying. I may even agree with you - its difficult for me to be a judge since I do not own an iPhone 5, an HTC one, AND a Moto x. I can't compare the photos between them and perhaps more importantly, I can't compare the photos ANY of those devices take to real life. Having said that, I think my iPhone does a pretty good job of reproducing what I see with my eyes when I am taking a photo. So, the question that I have is can you say this about the Moto X? Does it do a good job of reproducing what you see in the real world when taking a photo (both when viewed on the Moto X display and when viewed on a monitor)?
    09-05-2013 01:14 PM
  8. JungleLarry's Avatar
    I think the "lousy", "bad", camera comments are way over blown and I suspect most come from those that don't actually own the camera. Some of the colors that are often called "muted" actually look more real to me than those from cameras that emphasize the greens and blues. I have taken many a picture that I thought were really beautiful compared to what my eye saw due to this emphasis.
    The camera complaints aren't isolated to muted colors.
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    09-05-2013 01:19 PM
  9. Strawdawg's Avatar
    The camera complaints aren't isolated to muted colors.
    Nor did I say they were. I singled out one of the most common repeated complaints
    09-05-2013 02:59 PM
  10. roadkizzle's Avatar
    That, my friends, is why you should never judge a device by specs alone.

    However, I won't be getting a Moto X, because it's camera is mediocre in low-light situations and the fact that the mic is always-on, kinda creeps me out.

    It's just my decision. Happy to hear that you're enjoying yours, though!
    Just letting you know. One of my first tests of my Moto X when I got it on Tuesday was trying out the "OK Google Now" after turning on Airplane Mode and not allowing it to connect to my Wi-Fi.

    The phone recognized me say Ok Google Now and it unlocked my phone before telling me that it couldn't process any requests because it couldn't connect to the internet.

    To me that means that the phone really isn't paying attention to any words that you say because it isn't able to connect to Googles voice recognition servers yet still recognizes the wave form of its phrase.

    It doesn't seem to me to be sending any information until the activation phrase so it really isn't any different from any other uses of any other voice control software like regular phone Google Now or Siri.

    In addition, the searching for the activation phrase is done in the processor, but for the phone to actually be transmitting your voice constantly would kill the battery, and be extremely noticeable.
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    09-05-2013 03:50 PM
  11. Travisimo's Avatar
    If you leave HDR on how does that effect shutter speed and the amount of time it takes to capture a photo? I'm struggling between this, the S4, and the One. One of the most important aspects to a phone for me is the camera. I take a TON of quick pics of my daughter and like to have something that works well and works quickly. Thanks for the post, btw. Where along the Mississippi was that?
    I honestly can't tell any difference in shutter speed if HDR is on or off, which is pronouncedly different than other phone cameras I've used. Most phones I've used with HDR turned on do not do well unless the subject is entirely stationary. On the Moto X, I have been leaving HDR on for almost every situation and it has still been lightning quick in practice.
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    09-05-2013 03:57 PM
  12. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Glad to hear you like the device. I am hoping that Moto can make a comeback starting with this. We need to have more options in Smartphones other than Samsung and Apple....
    HTC looks like it's making a comeback.
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    09-05-2013 08:06 PM
  13. benhmadison's Avatar
    Mine arrives tomorrow. I've been advocating for it's philosophy the entire time, but these forums are what actually sold me on the purchase. The more I discussed it, the more I understood, it the more I wanted it. This thing screams of efficiency, optimization, improvisation and subtlety.
    Did you do moto maker or just a standard version?

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    09-05-2013 09:05 PM
  14. Aquila's Avatar
    Did you do moto maker or just a standard version?

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    Standard, it arrived about 7 hours ago I haven't put it down...
    09-05-2013 09:09 PM
  15. TechTinker's Avatar
    HTC looks like it's making a comeback.
    The One is doing pretty well with the tech crowds, but HTC is still failing I think they've said.

    The camera looks pretty good compared to my Droid 4, and I've been sastified with that.

    If you leave HDR on how does that effect shutter speed and the amount of time it takes to capture a photo? I'm struggling between this, the S4, and the One. One of the most important aspects to a phone for me is the camera. I take a TON of quick pics of my daughter and like to have something that works well and works quickly. Thanks for the post, btw. Where along the Mississippi was that?
    The Moto X is quick, I heard that it's not always that consistant, but it's a quick shooter.
    09-05-2013 09:12 PM
  16. Aquila's Avatar
    I'm absolutely amazed, I have a signal in my building at work.
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    09-05-2013 09:17 PM
  17. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    HTC looks like it's making a comeback.
    Nor am I doubting that. Moto pretty much shot themselves in the foot with the Verizon/Droid deal.
    09-05-2013 11:05 PM
  18. ultravisitor's Avatar
    I'm absolutely amazed, I have a signal in my building at work.
    The radios for the Moto X seem to be pretty awesome in comparison to my old Galaxy Nexus. I spend time in one room at work where my Galaxy Nexus would get no cellular signal and the phone would also struggle to hold onto a wifi connection, so my battery would usually end up dying about 30% over two hours. I'd end up leaving work with about 30-40% of battery left. With the Moto X, I'm leaving work now with about 70%. I'm loving this experience so far.
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    09-05-2013 11:54 PM
  19. Aquila's Avatar
    The radios for the Moto X seem to be pretty awesome in comparison to my old Galaxy Nexus. I spend time in one room at work where my Galaxy Nexus would get no cellular signal and the phone would also struggle to hold onto a wifi connection, so my battery would usually end up dying about 30% over two hours. I'd end up leaving work with about 30-40% of battery left. With the Moto X, I'm leaving work now with about 70%. I'm loving this experience so far.
    That's what I upgraded from as well.
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    09-05-2013 11:56 PM
  20. pblakk's Avatar
    I messed with the X and admittedly that thing is very comfortable in the hand. For the heck of it I found the One to be heavy and annoying.

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using AC Forums mobile app
    Ry likes this.
    09-06-2013 12:48 AM
  21. hokiesteve's Avatar
    Nor am I doubting that. Moto pretty much shot themselves in the foot with the Verizon/Droid deal.
    I don't think the are shooting themselves in the foot necessarily. I suspect the droid deal keeps the cash flowing into the company while they continue to work on their own carrier independent devices like the moto x.

    Sent from my XT1060 using AC Forums mobile app
    09-06-2013 09:38 AM
  22. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    I don't think the are shooting themselves in the foot necessarily. I suspect the droid deal keeps the cash flowing into the company while they continue to work on their own carrier independent devices like the moto x.

    Sent from my XT1060 using AC Forums mobile app
    But that was the whole thing. They had a contract with Verizon. Exclusive deals like this are really not a smart move.
    09-06-2013 09:42 AM
  23. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    But that was the whole thing. They had a contract with Verizon. Exclusive deals like this are really not a smart move.
    Agreed. Remember how the iPhone used to be exclusive on AT&T and was notorious for bad call quality?
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    09-06-2013 09:55 AM
  24. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Agreed. Remember how the iPhone used to be exclusive on AT&T and was notorious for bad call quality?
    Along with the forced switch to another carrier. I can't afford Verizon or AT&T. I consistently use roughly 4-6 GB of data per month. I can't switch carriers due to a device.
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    09-06-2013 09:59 AM
  25. Paisley's Avatar
    Agreed. Remember how the iPhone used to be exclusive on AT&T and was notorious for bad call quality?
    that was crazy. My friend's were all: "love my iPhone, it's so cool". And they all had cracked screens and crackly voice service. lol. I was all, yeah, great phone.
    09-06-2013 10:29 AM
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