09-08-2013 07:02 AM
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  1. guesswhat_567's Avatar
    Moto's product management VP punit soni replied to one of his posts on his google+ page, many camera improvements coming soon! ..makes me feel more optimistic that moto is going to fix the
    camera , I hope they address the muted colors issue soon..



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    09-06-2013 12:00 AM
  2. JungleLarry's Avatar
    Don't toy with my emotions.
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    09-06-2013 12:21 AM
  3. Aquila's Avatar
    Okay Google Now...
    09-06-2013 12:24 AM
  4. Travisimo's Avatar
    I saw that little tidbit too on Google+. However, like every ambiguity of wordplay, what does "soon" mean? It may mean that Motorola may have some improvements to the camera ready soon. But with updates going through the carriers, there could be a significant gap between when Moto has it ready and when it is actually released to us by the carriers.
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    09-06-2013 12:46 AM
  5. Aquila's Avatar
    However, like every ambiguity of wordplay, what does "soon" mean?


    Motorola is possibly owned by Activision, which is secretly the Blizzard Entertainment arm of the Google Empire (Source needed, this has not been verified). Here is their mutual definition of "soon" relative to patches:


    As defined by Blizzard Entertainment: "Soon" does not imply any particular date, time, decade, century, or millennia in the past, present, and certainly not the future. "Soon" shall make no contract or warranty between Blizzard Entertainment and the end user. "Soon" will arrive some day, Blizzard does guarantee that "soon" will be here before the end of time. Maybe. Do not make plans based on "soon" as Blizzard will not be liable for any misuse, use, or even casual glancing at "soon."
    The patch will be released soon.


    But with updates going through the carriers
    09-06-2013 12:50 AM
  6. guesswhat_567's Avatar
    I saw that little tidbit too on Google+. However, like every ambiguity of wordplay, what does "soon" mean? It may mean that Motorola may have some improvements to the camera ready soon. But with updates going through the carriers, there could be a significant gap between when Moto has it ready and when it is actually released to us by the carriers.

    Of course that's how it works..with any carrier phone .. Its probably ~1 month away .. But its good news for those who are planning to hold on to moto x for long time ..also this alleviates some of the initial concerns that camera cannot be improved by sw updates ..

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    09-06-2013 01:13 AM
  7. tonymhoffman's Avatar
    Why does the doubt come from people and Motorola about updates? It's Google. The OS on Moto X is bone stock. My phone has hardly any AT&T apps.

    Everyone's entitled to their beliefs but I'm not judging the outcome till the outcome outcomes haha.

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    09-06-2013 01:21 AM
  8. still1's Avatar
    bug fix/minor improvements usually fly through carrier in No time.
    I hope its that or could come with 4.3 in 2 months
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    09-06-2013 01:42 AM
  9. Travisimo's Avatar
    Why does the doubt come from people and Motorola about updates? It's Google. The OS on Moto X is bone stock. My phone has hardly any AT&T apps.

    Everyone's entitled to their beliefs but I'm not judging the outcome till the outcome outcomes haha.

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    1) Because Google has made is clear that Motorola is still it's own division and has distanced itself from giving exclusivity to Motorola. So just because Motorola is owned by Google does not necessarily mean updates will happen more quickly than any other OEM. It's not a Nexus!

    2) It is NOT bone stock Android. It is not a Google Play Edition phone. Updates will not be coming directly from Google or Motorola: they will still have to pass through the carriers (unlike a Nexus or GPE).

    3) Because Motorola does not have a good track record with updates, and the "new" Motorola has much to prove in this area. We can hope that since the Moto X is their "baby", it will happen sooner, but it is still an unknown, and there is reason to doubt.

    So yeah, we can hope that some minor updates will come quickly, but I'm not holding my breath. And you can expect a major release like 4.3 or 4.4 to come significantly later on the Moto X than they will on the Nexus or GPE devices.
    09-06-2013 01:45 PM
  10. JungleLarry's Avatar
    Why does the doubt come from people and Motorola about updates? It's Google. The OS on Moto X is bone stock. My phone has hardly any AT&T apps.

    Everyone's entitled to their beliefs but I'm not judging the outcome till the outcome outcomes haha.

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    Have you never owned a Motorola phone before? I think you'll find that those of us who have will meet promises by Motorola with serious skepticism.

    The only wild card is that they're under new management.
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    09-06-2013 01:48 PM
  11. Ry's Avatar
    Have you never owned a Motorola phone before? I think you'll find that those of us who have will meet promises by Motorola with serious skepticism.

    The only wild card is that they're under new management.
    My Bionic has Jelly Bean, like they promised.
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    09-06-2013 02:03 PM
  12. JungleLarry's Avatar
    It would be hilarious if the Droid line got updates pushed through faster than the Moto X. I'd probably cry.
    09-06-2013 02:11 PM
  13. Strawdawg's Avatar
    wonder if a Play Store update would be possible?
    09-06-2013 02:22 PM
  14. thegrants82's Avatar
    wonder if a Play Store update would be possible?
    Doubt it. I would think that any camera update would be firm ware. Long time moto user here, don't hold your breath because they will disappoint you every time with camera updates. The have left a ton of people hanging in the past with updates.

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    09-06-2013 02:35 PM
  15. tonymhoffman's Avatar
    Have you never owned a Motorola phone before? I think you'll find that those of us who have will meet promises by Motorola with serious skepticism.

    The only wild card is that they're under new management.
    I was under the impression Googlers replaced old Motorola employees and the standards in that change of the company would also be changed..

    So that is why I'm not comparing Motorola today to Motorola of yesteryear.. innocent until proven guilty. I understand the skepticism of others.

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    09-06-2013 02:44 PM
  16. Strawdawg's Avatar
    I was under the impression Googlers replaced old Motorola employees and the standards in that change of the company would also be changed..

    So that is why I'm not comparing Motorola today to Motorola of yesteryear.. innocent until proven guilty. I understand the skepticism of others.

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    It's hard to let go of the past for many. Kinda like being burnt by a stove and never trusting one again
    09-06-2013 02:58 PM
  17. bp3dots's Avatar


    Motorola is possibly owned by Activision, which is secretly the Blizzard Entertainment arm of the Google Empire (Source needed, this has not been verified). Here is their mutual definition of "soon" relative to patches:


    As defined by Blizzard Entertainment: "Soon" does not imply any particular date, time, decade, century, or millennia in the past, present, and certainly not the future. "Soon" shall make no contract or warranty between Blizzard Entertainment and the end user. "Soon" will arrive some day, Blizzard does guarantee that "soon" will be here before the end of time. Maybe. Do not make plans based on "soon" as Blizzard will not be liable for any misuse, use, or even casual glancing at "soon."
    The patch will be released soon.


    As a former WoW addict, I can vouch for Blizzard's extremely liberal definition of "soon" lol.
    09-06-2013 04:02 PM
  18. Rigelian's Avatar
    I saw that little tidbit too on Google+. However, like every ambiguity of wordplay, what does "soon" mean? It may mean that Motorola may have some improvements to the camera ready soon. But with updates going through the carriers, there could be a significant gap between when Moto has it ready and when it is actually released to us by the carriers.
    I'm not exactly sure how this will work. Given how Google has been modifying Android to be more modular, perhaps these improvements will be delivered via the Play Store bypassing any carrier intervention.

    Posted via Android Central App and the Moto X
    09-06-2013 04:22 PM
  19. Paisley's Avatar
    I was under the impression Googlers replaced old Motorola employees and the standards in that change of the company would also be changed..

    So that is why I'm not comparing Motorola today to Motorola of yesteryear.. innocent until proven guilty. I understand the skepticism of others.

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    But somehow the tradition of motorola having camera issues remained.
    09-06-2013 04:23 PM
  20. bp3dots's Avatar
    But somehow the tradition of motorola having camera issues remained.
    Google releases plenty stuff unfinished. They also do a good job of getting most of it set right. So, with the new group, I'd say it's reasonable that they'll get a fix out for any software issues.
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    09-06-2013 04:37 PM
  21. TechTinker's Avatar
    I honestly don't have a problem with Motorola. My device got from 2.3.5 to 4.1.2, sure 4.2 would've been nice by now but its not a big popular phone, cameras sastifactory, people need to stop being so spoiled, if it works and is not extremly terriable who cares. And isn't HTC worse with updates?
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    09-06-2013 04:42 PM
  22. snookasnoo's Avatar
    Speaking as someone who used to work at Motorola, and still knows many people there,..that's a crock and a pretty obvious one. All of the Motorola management, down to a pretty low level, has been replaced by Googlers. This is a fiction Google maintains so the other Android manufactures don't revolt. Of course they know its a fiction too but play along.
    Not a bad thing since I left Motorola because I thought the management was terrible.
    The good news is that its really only the carriers in the way of updates so I think you will see them fairly quickly.
    Also I think it's pretty safe to throw out any assumptions based on the old Motorola. Thousands of people from the old Motorola are gone and whole divisions have been axed. It's a Google run show now not that they always are the best at consumer hardware.
    Also the person who is asking for tap to focus on the X must not realize that this is an option in the menu.

    1) Because Google has made is clear that Motorola is still it's own division and has distanced itself from giving exclusivity to Motorola. So just because Motorola is owned by Google does not necessarily mean updates will happen more quickly than any other OEM. It's not a Nexus!
    So yeah, we can hope that some minor updates will come quickly, but I'm not holding my breath. And you can expect a major release like 4.3 or 4.4 to come significantly later on the Moto X than they will on the Nexus or GPE devices.
    For normal Google services yes, for camera, which is hardware, I'm not sure how they would do that. Google's efforts in this area revolve around fragmentation of Google services on different versions of Android not really anything else.

    I'm not exactly sure how this will work. Given how Google has been modifying Android to be more modular, perhaps these improvements will be delivered via the Play Store bypassing any carrier intervention.
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    09-06-2013 05:06 PM
  23. JungleLarry's Avatar
    I'll believe it when I see it.
    09-06-2013 06:15 PM
  24. thegrants82's Avatar
    I'll believe it when I see it.
    Ditto. But I may need to see it twice.

    Posted via Android Central App
    09-06-2013 06:50 PM
  25. snookiesnoo's Avatar
    I just got my X yesterday and yes the camera sucks. My iPhone 5, a year old phone, is dramatically better.


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    09-07-2013 10:45 AM
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