11-12-2013 07:28 AM
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  1. NealJ777's Avatar
    Well, I *** WAS *** considering upgrading to a Moto X, but VZW just killed all hope of doing that. The Moto X is currently $49 (VZW) at several online retailers. However, if I upgrade, there's a **** $30 **** upgrade fee (really?!). VZW has no interest in waiving the fee, I tried!

    I will also lose my 4GB/month data plan and go down to 2GB. When I signed up with VZW two-years ago, they had a special that I got 4GB data for the 2GB price. I probably don't use that much data, but still. It's the whole idea of losing 2GB of data!
    rayden8 likes this.
    10-31-2013 07:41 AM
  2. Gekko's Avatar
    10-31-2013 07:45 AM
  3. alexlam24's Avatar
    Just buy it unlocked

    Sent from Samsung Z1 GPE on T-Mobile
    10-31-2013 08:01 AM
  4. KWKSLVR's Avatar
    Oh, that sucks. I have 10GB for the price of 5. I didn't realize you lost that. Damn, I guess I'm not upgrading either. "Just buy it unlocked". That's cute. Yeah, $650 is chump change for most people.
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    10-31-2013 08:27 AM
  5. still1's Avatar
    Well, I *** WAS *** considering upgrading to a Moto X, but VZW just killed all hope of doing that. The Moto X is currently $49 (VZW) at several online retailers. However, if I upgrade, there's a **** $30 **** upgrade fee (really?!). VZW has no interest in waiving the fee, I tried!

    I will also lose my 4GB/month data plan and go down to 2GB. When I signed up with VZW two-years ago, they had a special that I got 4GB data for the 2GB price. I probably don't use that much data, but still. It's the whole idea of losing 2GB of data!
    The thing is you cant ignore this problem for ever and not upgrade. but you could go prepaid with T-Mobile
    10-31-2013 08:30 AM
  6. dpw2atox's Avatar
    If you use your phone for work you might be able to get them to let you keep the 4GB or even give you 5GB under a corporate enabled plan. You have to though first be enrolled in a company discount and call up customer support. Otherwise you're stuck unfortunately paying full price if you want to keep your 4GB.
    10-31-2013 08:39 AM
  7. KWKSLVR's Avatar
    Well, I *** WAS *** considering upgrading to a Moto X, but VZW just killed all hope of doing that. The Moto X is currently $49 (VZW) at several online retailers. However, if I upgrade, there's a **** $30 **** upgrade fee (really?!). VZW has no interest in waiving the fee, I tried!

    I will also lose my 4GB/month data plan and go down to 2GB. When I signed up with VZW two-years ago, they had a special that I got 4GB data for the 2GB price. I probably don't use that much data, but still. It's the whole idea of losing 2GB of data!
    Side note, have you compared prices with a new plan? I just looked and mine would be the same with a share everything plan. 10GB is $140/month + my current company discount = the same $105 I pay now.
    10-31-2013 09:11 AM
  8. Rocketsaucev2's Avatar
    I upgraded with my 4 gb plan and kept it. I'm paying for 2, had the free double a few years ago.

    Sent from my XT1060
    10-31-2013 09:13 AM
  9. tony bag o donuts's Avatar
    Yeah I think it's BS that carriers are charging money to activate new phones for existing customers. Actually Verizon was one of the last to hold out.
    Look at phones on swappa. It's what I did.
    10-31-2013 09:13 AM
  10. NealJ777's Avatar
    I am in a position to purchase a phone off contract. I would have to do a contracted phone.

    FWIW My current phone is a Droid Razr XT912

    I am looking at other carriers, but T-Mobile does not have the Moto X
    10-31-2013 09:14 AM
  11. NealJ777's Avatar
    Side note, have you compared prices with a new plan? I just looked and mine would be the same with a share everything plan. 10GB is $140/month + my current company discount = the same $105 I pay now.
    If I switched to AT&T I'll be saving some $$ ... about $20(ish)/month
    10-31-2013 09:15 AM
  12. dpw2atox's Avatar
    T-Mobile does have the Moto X FYI
    10-31-2013 09:19 AM
  13. NealJ777's Avatar
    T-Mobile does have the Moto X FYI
    Then tell T-Mobile!

    I don't see it on their webpage and the customer service "web chat" agent didn't know about it.
    10-31-2013 09:24 AM
  14. Paisley's Avatar
    Well, I *** WAS *** considering upgrading to a Moto X, but VZW just killed all hope of doing that. The Moto X is currently $49 (VZW) at several online retailers. However, if I upgrade, there's a **** $30 **** upgrade fee (really?!). VZW has no interest in waiving the fee, I tried!

    I will also lose my 4GB/month data plan and go down to 2GB. When I signed up with VZW two-years ago, they had a special that I got 4GB data for the 2GB price. I probably don't use that much data, but still. It's the whole idea of losing 2GB of data!
    The $30 upgrade fee is nothing compared to the data loss. Can someone explain this whole data issue with verizon? I read about it here and there but don't get it, is it that they don't offer plans with 4GB or unltd data anymore and once you use your upgrade you're not allowed to have your grandfathered plan?
    10-31-2013 09:28 AM
  15. NealJ777's Avatar
    ... Yeah, $650 is chump change for most people.
    Well, I'm not most people.

    ETA: Sorry... didn't see the wink
    10-31-2013 09:41 AM
  16. KWKSLVR's Avatar
    Well, I'm not most people.

    ETA: Sorry... didn't see the wink
    LOL! Yeah, I'm all for not having a contract but a $650 device every couple of years is steep for me. I'd do anyway on Verizon if they knocked $10 or $20 a month off of my bill like T-Mo did when I bought my Vibrant outright.
    10-31-2013 09:50 AM
  17. davidnc's Avatar
    The $30 upgrade fee is nothing compared to the data loss. Can someone explain this whole data issue with verizon? I read about it here and there but don't get it, is it that they don't offer plans with 4GB or unltd data anymore and once you use your upgrade you're not allowed to have your grandfathered plan?
    Yup, you basically got it ,if you upgrade a phone now,the phone you upgrade on vzw you loose your unlimited plan for that phone.Thats even if you were grandfathered in
    They still might be a loophole about adding a dumb phone and then switching lines that works but I really havent kept up with that thread.
    Someone thats done this would be able to add more info on that and if it still works.
    There have been serveral "glitches" that have allowed some to get around loosing their unlimited data when they recently upgraded their phone(s), but the "glitch" has since been fixed

    I guess at times VZW might have a limited offer for deals on data as an option for them as well, such as double your data 4 GB for price of 2GB
    10-31-2013 10:06 AM
  18. NealJ777's Avatar
    I would consider going to AT&T, but they have a $36 activation fee per line (2 lines for me and my wife). They also have a $36 upgrade fee per line.
    10-31-2013 10:16 AM
  19. Paisley's Avatar
    Yup, you basically got it ,if you upgrade a phone now,the phone you upgrade on vzw you loose your unlimited plan for that phone.Thats even if you were grandfathered in
    They still might be a loophole about adding a dumb phone and then switching lines that works but I really havent kept up with that thread.
    Someone thats done this would be able to add more info on that and if it still works.
    There have been serveral "glitches" that have allowed some to get around loosing their unlimited data when they recently upgraded their phone(s), but the "glitch" has since been fixed

    I guess at times VZW might have a limited offer for deals on data as an option for them as well, such as double your data 4 GB for price of 2GB
    It would be so worth doing the work around, hello! Good luck. And if ATT is the same coverage, while $36 sucks, you save $20/mo you said, right? F verizon, they are just rude, taking away people's data, lol.

    PLEASE make sure the coverage is equal though before switching, too make people make the mistake of not doing that.
    10-31-2013 11:13 AM
  20. sunburned's Avatar
    T-Mobile does have the Moto X FYI
    Then tell T-Mobile!

    I don't see it on their webpage and the customer service "web chat" agent didn't know about it.
    It was well published that T-mobile would not sell the Moto X on their website and that you had to buy it through Motorola.

    I guess the customer service person you talked to was just clueless in general.
    10-31-2013 12:32 PM
  21. NealJ777's Avatar
    It was well published that T-mobile would not sell the Moto X on their website and that you had to buy it through Motorola.

    Okay. Thank you. I am not going to be paying full price for the phone.
    10-31-2013 01:15 PM
  22. anthony2558's Avatar
    What does "upgrade fee" even mean anymore.... They used to say that they charged it because they had to do some leg work and transfer numbers from old phone to your new phone, do some computer work. Now all they do is pop a sim card in and out. Google does the rest in restoring everything. I think they should just drop the activation fee all together. Its really just a gimmick anymore.
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    11-01-2013 11:03 AM
  23. jimbarr's Avatar
    Frankly, I paid $199 through Verizon just over a month ago, and don't regret it at all--not one bit. I came from a DROID Bionic, and the difference is absolutely stunning with the Moto X shining in all comparisons. Yes, you can get it cheaper elsewhere, and yes, there are other models that may our-spec it, but that will always be the case. The Moto X is very much a fine phone.
    11-01-2013 11:31 AM
  24. NealJ777's Avatar
    What does "upgrade fee" even mean anymore.... They used to say that they charged it because they had to do some leg work and transfer numbers from old phone to your new phone, do some computer work. Now all they do is pop a sim card in and out. Google does the rest in restoring everything. I think they should just drop the activation fee all together. Its really just a gimmick anymore.
    I agree. It's not like they have to do anything "administrative" on their end AND they get you for another two-years, so they're making money off of you anyway. All the carriers do it, so it's not like you can blame VZW. I contacted AT&T about switching and AT&T refused to waive the activation fee.

    Frankly, I paid $199 through Verizon just over a month ago, and don't regret it at all--not one bit. I came from a DROID Bionic, and the difference is absolutely stunning with the Moto X shining in all comparisons. Yes, you can get it cheaper elsewhere, and yes, there are other models that may our-spec it, but that will always be the case. The Moto X is very much a fine phone.
    Well, I pulled the trigger and ordered a Moto X on VZW. I'll see if I can sweet talk some CSR into waiving the fee for me.
    11-01-2013 01:31 PM
  25. KWKSLVR's Avatar
    Good luck, I hope they do. The only company I've ever had waive a fee like activation for me was T-Mobile when I bought my Vibrant. I think the manager did it because they were already coming out on top since I paid full price to not have a contract and I was setting up a new line with them.
    11-01-2013 01:51 PM
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