11-29-2013 11:17 AM
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  1. UJ95x's Avatar
    Battery Life:

    So, like many of you, I read a lot of these threads and my impression both from my Moto X and the forums, is that it's easy to get 20-26 hours of battery life with 4-6 hours of "screen on" on an X, out of the box. My impression from the S4 forums is that 15-20 is "lucky", though some people are able to eek out more by tweaking it. Most people seem to be in the 12-15 hour range. Either one of those would be relatively close to acceptable from how I use my phone (10-12 hour work day, I can survive with 12-15 hours, but then I have to charge it the second I get home or swap batteries, would rather have 25-40% left on the battery).

    Also, like many of you I don't ever let my device get below 20% except in extreme cases, so take the "max hours" numbers and multiply by .75 or .80 and that's how much I WANT to use it. Which means we're basically talking about an 8-12 hour S4 vs an 15-18 hr Moto X. Of course there are individuals getting higher or lower values than normal, but I've never expected that my device will exceed normal ranges when I purchase it.

    Processor:

    I would argue heavily that the S600 is not actually a "better" processor, because it is very likely that most of us have never done anything that requires the theoretical output it could generate under test conditions. That, coupled with it being soundly beaten by the X8 in many real world performance tests (navigation of the OS, opening apps, rendering pages, threading, random r/w, etc) makes it very tough to call one objectively better than the other, though the X8 system is much more advanced, despite having 2 fewer ARMs.
    Well said. Hence the "YMMV" in my post.
    That and the small size are why I'll more than likely get the NEXT "X." But for now I'm happy with my S4

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    11-20-2013 07:23 PM
  2. gregg_fowler's Avatar
    So after testing it and using it it seems to be synced perfectly with my Moto X on 4.4 It is giving all the information and everything seems good to go.
    Can you double check that it is reporting steps? I have it on AT&T and it shows up, but doesn't show steps (unless picked up by my ipad or iphone). Posted a topic on this at:

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/mot...-4-moto-x.html
    11-24-2013 12:41 PM
  3. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    ...
    As of today, the ONLY area that iOS still owns android is in the native email client. Other than than, Android ROCKS. Loving my Note 3, Loved my X, can't wait for the next big thing...
    I like K-9 more than the iOS email app.

    ...But yea...most things are debatable about phones. I could mention how having a non removable battery has its advantages...
    Other than that you can potentially cram more battery into the same sized phone by not using up space with a door and stuff, what advantage is there to a non-removable battery?
    11-24-2013 11:56 PM
  4. clankfu's Avatar
    Other than that you can potentially cram more battery into the same sized phone by not using up space with a door and stuff, what advantage is there to a non-removable battery?
    You could argue that having a removable cover for a battery would lessen the build quality and feel of the device. It would probably be more like the Moto G. I haven't handled one myself but I'm assuming that while the feel is close, it's not exactly the same.

    Some people would gladly sacrifice build quality for a removable battery but it's an argument.
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    11-25-2013 12:43 AM
  5. UJ95x's Avatar
    Other than that you can potentially cram more battery into the same sized phone by not using up space with a door and stuff, what advantage is there to a non-removable battery?
    You can carry around an extra battery if you don't mind charging another battery. As soon as one dies. Replace it
    When you have been charging and using your phone's battery for a few months the capacity diminishes. Just buy a new battery and you're back to how it was.

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    11-25-2013 12:19 PM
  6. clankfu's Avatar
    You can carry around an extra battery if you don't mind charging another battery. As soon as one dies. Replace it
    When you have been charging and using your phone's battery for a few months the capacity diminishes. Just buy a new battery and you're back to how it was.

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    I think you misunderstood her question.
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    11-25-2013 02:01 PM
  7. UJ95x's Avatar
    I think you misunderstood her question.
    How so? She asked for other benefits to having a removable battery...
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    11-25-2013 04:03 PM
  8. clankfu's Avatar
    How so? She asked for other benefits to having a removable battery...
    Other than that you can potentially cram more battery into the same sized phone by not using up space with a door and stuff, what advantage is there to a non-removable battery?
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    11-25-2013 04:10 PM
  9. UJ95x's Avatar
    Hehe. Ok, I see it now
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    11-25-2013 04:15 PM
  10. JungleLarry's Avatar
    The ability to swap out a battery is an advantage, but I think it stands to reason that MOST people would prefer better out-of-the-box battery life due to the spacial restrictions you already mentioned. Down the line....that's another story. Buying a new battery is definitely cheaper than buying a new phone.

    Truth is, this is the first phone I've purchased with a non-removable battery. My hope is that by taking care of it according to the most current guidelines for Li-ion cells I'll get decent enough longevity to last me until my next purchase.
    11-25-2013 04:46 PM
  11. torifile's Avatar
    I don't want a non-removable battery. Having it removable makes the case creaky and noticably lower quality. Just LOOK at any review of any unibody device - HTC One, Moto X, iPhone - and compare it to the reviews for any with a removable battery. You can't get good build quality and balanced feel with a removable battery like you can with non-removable. If it were possible, it would have been done.

    I want my phone to last all day. Period. End of story. Anything less is unacceptable. I use my phone heavily and my iPhones always made that mark. The Moto X I've had for 2 days seems to be holding up quite well, too. I don't want to carry another battery to make up for a deficiency in the device. Do it right.
    11-25-2013 05:02 PM
  12. Highland Droid's Avatar
    I doubt they'll get Kit Kat in anything less than 3 weeks, even less than a month is unlikely
    Heh, this wasn't the beginning of you getting owned in this thread, but it is the highlight.
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    11-25-2013 05:19 PM
  13. UJ95x's Avatar
    Heh, this wasn't the beginning of you getting owned in this thread, but it is the highlight.
    Yeah. Moto probably read that and wanted to humiliate me
    11-25-2013 05:36 PM
  14. Highland Droid's Avatar
    The almost immediate (compared to what we're used to) upgrade of the Moto X line (sans the Republic Wireless version) to 4.4 solidifies this phone IMO as THE BEST phone of 2013.

    It makes me sick that I don't own one (I'm currently testing the Republic Wireless version, but I'm not sold on the service) but that has nothing to do with the phone and everything to do with the launch and release. I couldn't stomach the AT&T Moto Maker exclusivity. Yuck.

    If I could have designed my own VZW Developer Edition Moto X at launch, I'd have two of them right now, one each for my wife and I. I had saved up and was ready to support this phone. But Motorola screwed that up.

    In the end, they'll probably end up selling me two anyway, so who's the sucker?
    11-26-2013 11:41 AM
  15. fldude99's Avatar
    Anybody and everybody can nitpick the wide (I mean HUGE) amount of features that are packed into smartphones these days, but when looked at from an overall perspective, and this would have to include the GENERAL public as well as geeks that read forums (including myself), I don't think there is a contest. The Moto X is hands down the 2013 smartphone of the year in my opinion. It's been a long time coming for Motorola, and I wish I hadn't sold my shares back when they were stumble bumming around with junk, but they are back big time with this device. Best phone/device I've ever owned.
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    11-26-2013 01:54 PM
  16. austinography's Avatar
    Anybody and everybody can nitpick the wide (I mean HUGE) amount of features that are packed into smartphones these days, but when looked at from an overall perspective, and this would have to include the GENERAL public as well as geeks that read forums (including myself), I don't think there is a contest. The Moto X is hands down the 2013 smartphone of the year in my opinion. It's been a long time coming for Motorola, and I wish I hadn't sold my shares back when they were stumble bumming around with junk, but they are back big time with this device. Best phone/device I've ever owned.
    I couldn't agree more. My first "smart" phone was the Motorola Q, running Windows Mobile 6.0 (ewwwww). But, the hardware was sound (soft touch, same as moto x) and it was a really nice device at the time. I've dabbled with other hardware in the meantime, but it feels really nice to be coming back to Moto. Thank god they've actually figured out the software part now too.
    11-26-2013 03:44 PM
  17. torifile's Avatar
    I have to say that the Moto X is the first device that has made me feel ok about leaving my iPhone. It's a good size, has good battery life, good display and some innovative and useful features. Other smartphones just try to go bigger faster stronger and that's not enough for me.
    11-26-2013 07:04 PM
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    11-26-2013 07:12 PM
  19. UJ95x's Avatar
    I have to say that the Moto X is the first device that has made me feel ok about leaving my iPhone. It's a good size, has good battery life, good display and some innovative and useful features. Other smartphones just try to go bigger faster stronger and that's not enough for me.
    I think of the Moto X as the iPhone of the Android world. Whether you see that as a good thing or a bad thing is up to you

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    11-26-2013 07:53 PM
  20. still1's Avatar
    was about to post it... u beat me to it
    11-26-2013 07:54 PM
  21. Aquila's Avatar
    I think of the Moto X as the iPhone of the Android world. Whether you see that as a good thing or a bad thing is up to you

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    I'd reverse that and say the 5s is the Moto X of the iOS world. Sure, you can get a 5c or 5 or whatever, but the one with the most genius in it is the 5s. As far as the iPhone of Android, I'm inclined to think of that as the Samsung Galaxy S4, a product that is solid in its own right, yet easily beaten by other devices that are, despite their awesome-sauce, do not sell nearly as well. Of course, in design perhaps the One is closer, etc.
    11-26-2013 07:59 PM
  22. UJ95x's Avatar
    I'd reverse that and say the 5s is the Moto X of the iOS world. Sure, you can get a 5c or 5 or whatever, but the one with the most genius in it is the 5s. As far as the iPhone of Android, I'm inclined to think of that as the Samsung Galaxy S4, a product that is solid in its own right, yet easily beaten by other devices that are, despite their awesome-sauce, do not sell nearly as well. Of course, in design perhaps the One is closer, etc.
    It doesn't work the other way around though because there is only one kind of phone with the iOS platform. The iPhone. If you say the 5S is the Moto X of iOS then what are the 5 and 5C? They're just lesser models in terms of hardware but other than that they are exactly the same.
    The iPhone is a flagship device with "mid-range" specs yet it manages to outperform most devices in a lot of categories. The Moto X is almost exactly the same in that manner. Except for the camera of course

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    11-26-2013 08:07 PM
  23. torifile's Avatar
    I think of the Moto X as the iPhone of the Android world. Whether you see that as a good thing or a bad thing is up to you

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    I'd reverse that and say the 5s is the Moto X of the iOS world. Sure, you can get a 5c or 5 or whatever, but the one with the most genius in it is the 5s. As far as the iPhone of Android, I'm inclined to think of that as the Samsung Galaxy S4, a product that is solid in its own right, yet easily beaten by other devices that are, despite their awesome-sauce, do not sell nearly as well. Of course, in design perhaps the One is closer, etc.
    The iPhone 5s isn't beaten by any device. Only a blind fanboy would think that any other phone was better. Camera, speed, tech, price, build quality, resale value.

    I agree that the moto x is a lot like the iPhone of the android world. Balancing and making decisions and coming out with the best overall product. And it's got some innovative features none of its competitors can match.
    11-26-2013 08:11 PM
  24. Aquila's Avatar
    It doesn't work the other way around though because there is only one kind of phone with the iOS platform. The iPhone. It you say the 5S is the Moto X of iOS then what is the 5 AMD 5C? They're just lesser models in terms of hardware but other than that they are exactly the same.
    The iPhone is a flagship device with "mid-range" specs yet ital manages to outperform most devices in a lot of categories. The Moto X is almost exactly the same in that manner. Except for the camera of course

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    Insert sarcasm: What? There are 9 variations of the 5s, 10 versions of the 5c, and that's before putting on cases! That's WAY more variety than only having 4 Nexus 5 versions, etc.

    You can get Gold 32GB, Gold 16GB...

    Insert serious: I get what you're saying, but in the Android world, "iPhone" has a lot of philosophical connotations that are not necessarily favorable to the Moto X receiving that distinction without qualification.
    11-26-2013 08:12 PM
  25. Aquila's Avatar
    The iPhone 5s isn't beaten by any device. Only a blind fanboy would think that any other phone was better. Camera, speed, tech, price, build quality, resale value.

    I agree that the moto x is a lot like the iPhone of the android world. Balancing and making decisions and coming out with the best overall product. And it's got some innovative features none of its competitors can match.
    I'm going to caution you against insulting forums members. There is a HUGE and lively debate about what "better" even means, let alone which devices earn the title.
    11-26-2013 08:14 PM
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