11-20-2013 12:02 PM
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  1. Haalcyon's Avatar
    If moto can keep up this speed with say, two more versions of android, I will be astounded (and thrilled).

    Sent from my XT1053
    As far as I'm concerned Motorola is Google. Google is Motorola. Gooooogggaaaarrrooooolllllaaaa. Of course "Motorola" phones are getting updates quickly. Why should they get them any slower than a Nexus device. It's all in Google's house. Some seem to be surprised at this. No, it's just Google making sure their everyman brand is a little better than the competition in the updates aspect. No surprise to me there.

    G Pad 8.3
    11-19-2013 02:34 PM
  2. DroidGuy1990's Avatar
    As far as I'm concerned Motorola is Google. Google is Motorola. Gooooogggaaaarrrooooolllllaaaa. Of course "Motorola" phones are getting updates quickly. Why should they get them any slower than a Nexus device. It's all in Google's house. Some seem to be surprised at this. No, it's just Google make sure their everyman brand is a little better than the competition in the updates aspect. No surprise to me there.

    G Pad 8.3
    Unfourtunally As much as I would love the Moto X to get 2 more updates the fact of the matter is by next summer the new Moto will be released...The Moto X will be over a year old..All the hype and praise will be shifted to the new device and this phone will be forgotten only to maybe get one more Major or even Minor update...I hate typing this but this is technology in 2013...This device will be a killer in 2013 which it is to be forgotten in 2014...the way of the world
    11-19-2013 02:41 PM
  3. phositadc's Avatar
    As far as I'm concerned Motorola is Google. Google is Motorola. Gooooogggaaaarrrooooolllllaaaa. Of course "Motorola" phones are getting updates quickly. Why should they get them any slower than a Nexus device. It's all in Google's house. Some seem to be surprised at this. No, it's just Google making sure their everyman brand is a little better than the competition in the updates aspect. No surprise to me there.

    G Pad 8.3
    You have to keep in mind though that the X was released late August and it never got 4.3.

    That lingers in my mind a little bit, but this quick KitKat release mostly erases that bad memory.

    Sent from my XT1053
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    11-19-2013 02:45 PM
  4. DroidGuy1990's Avatar
    You have to keep in mind though that the X was released late August and it never got 4.3.

    That lingers in my mind a little bit, but this quick KitKat release mostly erases that bad memory.

    Sent from my XT1053
    As you posted that I was just typing that....The X is on 4.2.2 when the S4 released months back was on 4.3..So that was upsetting me a tad bit..Luckily human memory favors the good memories so the Kitkat 20 days after being released is very satisfying.
    11-19-2013 02:59 PM
  5. Haalcyon's Avatar
    As you posted that I was just typing that....The X is on 4.2.2 when the S4 released months back was on 4.3..So that was upsetting me a tad bit..Luckily human memory favors the good memories so the Kitkat 20 days after being released is very satisfying.
    That could be why the X skipped 4.3 altogether. They wanted to put the resources into it getting 4.4 in a quick-fast-and-in-a-hurry manner. I have a feeling that Motorola had more insight into 4.4's release than any of Google's other Android partners. Wanna put money on that?

    G Pad 8.3
    11-19-2013 03:06 PM
  6. Ry's Avatar
    As far as I'm concerned Motorola is Google. Google is Motorola. Gooooogggaaaarrrooooolllllaaaa. Of course "Motorola" phones are getting updates quickly. Why should they get them any slower than a Nexus device. It's all in Google's house. Some seem to be surprised at this. No, it's just Google making sure their everyman brand is a little better than the competition in the updates aspect. No surprise to me there.

    G Pad 8.3
    It's surprising because of the supposed firewall between the two entities.

    And that it went to Verizon models first.
    11-19-2013 03:06 PM
  7. phositadc's Avatar
    That could be why the X skipped 4.3 altogether. They wanted to put the resources into it getting 4.4 in a quick-fast-and-in-a-hurry manner. I have a feeling that Motorola had more insight into 4.4's release than any of Google's other Android partners. Wanna put money on that?

    G Pad 8.3
    Fair enough. But in that view, who's to say that that they won't decide to skip 4.5 and go straight to 4.6?

    Just making the point that one quick release--though no doubt awesome--doesn't guarantee that we will ever see another quick release, especially given the history of having skipped one release entirely!

    Sent from my XT1053
    11-19-2013 03:09 PM
  8. Haalcyon's Avatar
    It's surprising because of the supposed firewall between the two entities.

    And that it went to Verizon models first.
    Firewall eh? A firewall with a big azz hole in it maybe.

    G Pad 8.3
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    11-19-2013 03:10 PM
  9. DroidGuy1990's Avatar
    That could be why the X skipped 4.3 altogether. They wanted to put the resources into it getting 4.4 in a quick-fast-and-in-a-hurry manner. I have a feeling that Motorola had more insight into 4.4's release than any of Google's other Android partners. Wanna put money on that?

    G Pad 8.3
    Oh yea without a doubt. I honestly would go as far as saying Motorola had the KitKat 4.4 code by early august....To get the update out this quick and not even worry about 4.3 meant that they had to be working on this a while...The quickest turn around I seen for an update from release at a normal pace was about 3 months. So Moto had to have it early on...Google wants to say Moto is on there own but I bet the android team is helping moto out...How else do you think the active notifications came to work so perfectly on 4.3? Moto def has the help of the Android Team
    11-19-2013 03:10 PM
  10. Ry's Avatar
    Firewall eh? A firewall with a big azz hole in it maybe.

    G Pad 8.3
    That's what they keep saying..

    This update kind of proves it's not reality.
    11-19-2013 03:13 PM
  11. still1's Avatar
    Firewall eh? A firewall with a big azz hole in it maybe.

    G Pad 8.3
    Google and Motorola is still different entity when it comes to Android(Lets hope thats still the case).
    Motorola dont get code before anyone else(except for samsung and HTC because of google play edition phones)
    sammy and HTC have the 4.4 code for at least 2- 2 1/2 months now

    Motorola pulled it up this quickly because
    1. the OS is pure vanilla
    2. all apps are on play store which makes it easy for bug fixes
    3. most apps are google apps. so less testing and that falls on google now.
    4. very less bloatware
    kudos to motorola for that
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    11-19-2013 03:16 PM
  12. Haalcyon's Avatar
    That's what they keep saying..

    This update kind of proves it's not reality.
    I don't even know why they bother to say that, and worse, expect anyone to actually BELIEVE it. So, Googorola get's updates faster than the competition. Not the end of the world for the likes of Samsung, LG, and HTC. In fact, maybe they'll get off their tuckases and realize they need to open the throttle a bit when it comes to getting updates out. LG could sure use a little fire under them in this department.

    G Pad 8.3
    11-19-2013 03:17 PM
  13. angry english's Avatar
    LG are hopeless with updates apart from the obvious Nexus devices, I wonder what's going on with Samsung, seeing as HTC are ready with the GPE One Samsung have been totally mute on it, I'd be mad as anything if I had an S4 GPE watching the X get it 1st, considering the GPE phones are sold through Google play, I think more is going on behind the scenes regarding Google and Samsung

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    11-19-2013 04:07 PM
  14. TeknoBug's Avatar
    When a device as new as August 2013 without 4.3, I expected it to skip 4.3 and go straight to 4.4.

    LG did that with the Shine Plus a couple years ago, it was still 2.1 and it skipped 2.2 straight to 2.3 on the OTA update.
    11-19-2013 04:30 PM
  15. still1's Avatar
    When a device as new as August 2013 without 4.3, I expected it to skip 4.3 and go straight to 4.4.

    LG did that with the Shine Plus a couple years ago, it was still 2.1 and it skipped 2.2 straight to 2.3 on the OTA update.
    true but skipping from 4.2 to 4.4 usually takes about 6 months unlike Moto X which took only 3 weeks.

    that's the wow factor here
    11-19-2013 04:50 PM
  16. Haalcyon's Avatar
    true but skipping from 4.2 to 4.4 usually takes about 6 months unlike Moto X which took only 3 weeks.

    that's the wow factor here
    No wow. Motorola = Google. Any line they feed you to convince you otherwise is just that...a line.

    G Pad 8.3
    11-19-2013 04:58 PM
  17. JeffDenver's Avatar
    Here's what I love about my Nexus 5:
    The screen, I really like how sharp it is, I'm worries the Moto X might look mudded compared.
    The Moto X has an excellent display. I used to be a huge display snob but thats changed since 720p became the standard. 1080p is better, but not by enough to make a difference to most people. The Moto X display most certainly will not look "muddled" by any standard.

    Vanilla Android, I'm not much of a skin person, seems the Moto X is almost vanilla also.
    The moto X is about as close to vanilla as you can get without being vanilla. They are already getting KitKat...that alone should tell you something.

    Build quality, I think the Nexus 5 is well built and feels well.
    So do I. Most people think the Moto X is even better though.

    Speed, the Nexus 5 is fast.... At everything, worried if I see a noticeable difference with the X, I'm not into benchmarks, I'm into everyday life marks lol
    The Moto X will never match the Nexus in that area. But for basic UI functions it will look as fast. Whether or not it is fast enough is subjective. But Jerry seems to think it is plenty fast.

    I prefer the nexus myself, but my priorities are different from yours. Based on what you said here, it looks like you'd do better with the Moto X.
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    11-19-2013 05:46 PM
  18. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    I'm also looking at these two phones, as well as the S4. I was planning to get the S4 mini, but I'm on Sprint, and I just spoke with them and the helpful customer service guy tells me that the Sprint version of the mini doesn't have antennas to use it internationally. And I travel enough that that's a real issue for me. So now I am looking at other phones.
    For me it came down to a carrier locked bootloader. I thought I could deal with it and if there was ever a carrier phone that was almost perfect out of the box it would be the moto x, but at the end of the day it's my phone and I enjoy having the ability to experiment and flash custom Roms. I went from the x to the n5 and have no regrets.

    Now if I was a completely stock user who didn't root I would have stuck with the x. It depends on if you like to tinker. If you do I'd recommend sticking with the n5.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
    This is my chief concern with the Moto. I was burned by Moto with the Photon and the locked bootloader. I really want to be able to unlock my phone.
    I had both phones. For me out came down to the moto x being more comfortable to hold.

    But that's personal preference. Both are great phones. Can't go wrong either way

    Posted via Android Central App
    But this is a big issue for me, too. I was going to buy the mini for its form factor. I've held the other phones in the shop, and it's a little hard to tell with the giant "don't steal me" thing attached to the phone, but the Moto X felt small enough, and felt nice in my hands. All the other phones feel so huge.

    And I'm not sure either has enough data for my needs. But I guess I should go see what's on my current phone, and what I would like to be there that isn't due to space limitations. Maybe they are okay. (Putting stuff in "the cloud" is not a good solution for me, I often use the phone when my data service is spotty.)

    I'm really torn.
    11-19-2013 05:52 PM
  19. ultravisitor's Avatar
    I was burned by Moto with the Photon and the locked bootloader. I really want to be able to unlock my phone.
    The Sprint Moto X has an unlockable bootloader. I told you previously when you were swearing up and down that you would never get another Motorola phone. That has been well known. AT&T and Verizon Moto Xs have the encrypted bootloader. Remember? You were swearing left and right that Motorola had not changed when it came to updates. Ready to admit you're wrong?

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    11-19-2013 07:12 PM
  20. planoman's Avatar
    LG are hopeless with updates apart from the obvious Nexus devices, I wonder what's going on with Samsung, seeing as HTC are ready with the GPE One Samsung have been totally mute on it, I'd be mad as anything if I had an S4 GPE watching the X get it 1st, considering the GPE phones are sold through Google play, I think more is going on behind the scenes regarding Google and Samsung

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    The GPe's are not the only ones. Most Nexus tablets have not received it yet...not sure about the Nexus 4. I could side load it to my Nexus 7 but in no big hurry. I need to learn to wait a week before updating anyway. Patience is a virtue.
    11-19-2013 07:34 PM
  21. angry english's Avatar
    I'm so surprised that the OTA hasn't hit most devices yet nexus wise, I sideloaded my N7 FHD as I didn't want to wait, but for the Verizon Moto X to get the OTA before a lot of Nexus devices is a bit of a slap in the face, if you would have said to me 1 week ago a Verizon device would have 4.4 ota before the nexus 4 I would have advised you to put the crack pipe down lol

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    11-19-2013 08:00 PM
  22. planoman's Avatar
    I'm so surprised that the OTA hasn't hit most devices yet nexus wise, I sideloaded my N7 FHD as I didn't want to wait, but for the Verizon Moto X to get the OTA before a lot of Nexus devices is a bit of a slap in the face, if you would have said to me 1 week ago a Verizon device would have 4.4 ota before the nexus 4 I would have advised you to put the crack pipe down lol

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    Agreed. I was just adding the tablets to the slap in the face!

    If moto can continue to deliver at that pace it will be impressive indeed!

    Sent from my bada$$ Nexus 5
    11-19-2013 08:07 PM
  23. benhmadison's Avatar
    What makes you think you and your attitude are any better? You're referring to other people as slaves just because their priorities are different from yours.

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    First off I didn't mean to have such an attitude, and I wasn't referring to you or any other regulars on here. I was referring to those who make snide comments about how many phones someone goes through without having any knowledge of the situation. I have never paid full retail for a phone and never will. I trade, or buy and sell to try different phones and most of the time I at least break even if not make a few bucks in the process. People just assume that we must be spending hundreds of dollars each time we change phones and it isn't the case.

    Some people have plenty of money and do buy a new phone full price every couple of months and even in that case there's nothing wrong with that.

    It's just the perception that people have with buying cell phones and associating it with being wasteful and that's due mostly to the "we keep a phone for two years because that's what our carriers tell us to do" mentality. Again nothing wrong with being perfectly happy with a device and keeping it for 2 or even 3 years.

    If someone spends 900 bucks a month on a Mercedes note no one bats an eye but someone in a forum has purchased more than one smartphone in a short period of time and they are "sick". Just doesn't make sense to me.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
    11-19-2013 08:11 PM
  24. Haalcyon's Avatar
    I think the key is not to concern oneself about what other people think.

    Nexuscillin V
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    11-19-2013 08:24 PM
  25. anon(464338)'s Avatar
    First off I didn't mean to have such an attitude, and I wasn't referring to you or any other regulars on here. I was referring to those who make snide comments about how many phones someone goes through without having any knowledge of the situation. I have never paid full retail for a phone and never will. I trade, or buy and sell to try different phones and most of the time I at least break even if not make a few bucks in the process. People just assume that we must be spending hundreds of dollars each time we change phones and it isn't the case.

    Some people have plenty of money and do buy a new phone full price every couple of months and even in that case there's nothing wrong with that.

    It's just the perception that people have with buying cell phones and associating it with being wasteful and that's due mostly to the "we keep a phone for two years because that's what our carriers tell us to do" mentality. Again nothing wrong with being perfectly happy with a device and keeping it for 2 or even 3 years.

    If someone spends 900 bucks a month on a Mercedes note no one bats an eye but someone in a forum has purchased more than one smartphone in a short period of time and they are "sick". Just doesn't make sense to me.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
    Sigh.. First of all when did i ever suggest someone was "sick"? Second i dont give a rats potuti how many phones or how much money one has. Thats other peoples business.. Who cares. My point was pertaining to the concern from the op about a phone that he probably wont keep long anyway. Its just my opinion. If I'm gonna buy a phone every other month, money or resources arent an issue so i would just buy it based on all the info already out there as well as several exact same threads started. Didnt see the point of starting yet another repetitive thread. In other words buying this device is not as critical as someone intending on keeping it a long time.. With or without being a "slave". Good one btw. Oh and all this "regulars" vs others like youre all in cahoots is hilarious. Who... Gives a shyt.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
    11-19-2013 09:03 PM
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