1. sakasune's Avatar
    So I've been off-contract for about a year now, mostly to keep unlimited data (until they pry it from my cold dead hands lol). Bought a Droid Razr HD Maxx last December and have been happy with it except for still being on 4.1. I've decided that the Moto X will be my next phone, but I'm not sure if I should go the regular 32GB model or get the Developer Edition. I can't decide for a few reasons:

    -I want to customize it on Moto Maker. Black on woven black with silver trim. I think DE looks okay, but in Jerry's comparison between the Moto X and Nexus 5 he mentioned that the white gets stained easily.

    -Unlocked bootloader seems compelling...but I unlocked the BL on my Droid and never bothered installing a custom ROM. Also, according to another thread here, the Moto X is so awesome it doesn't need a ROM.

    -Does anyone think that the DE model might get updated quicker or supported later than the regular model (i.e., a year from now the BL-locked model updated only to "4.5" while DE model continue to be updated to "5.0")? I ask this because the Dev Edition of the Droid Razr HD (which I wasn't aware of one when I bought mine) is being updated to 4.4 while the regular model is still stuck at 4.1.2 (source: Motorola to bring KitKat to Moto X, new Droids and Dev Edition RAZR HD | Android Central). EDIT: they just announced the non-DE Droid Razr HD (and MAXX) will be upgraded to 4.4

    -Are there any other software or hardware differences that I should be aware of (i.e., less bloatware on the DE)? Or are they the same except for the bootloader and the "Developer Edition" label on the back?

    I appreciate your time and (helfpul) feedback. Thanks
    11-19-2013 01:18 PM
  2. JRDroid's Avatar
    If the price is the same, I'd get the Dev Edition. Sure you don't get Moto Maker, but extra freedom is never bad. I'd rather have the unlocked bootloader and not need it than need it and not have it.
    11-19-2013 01:22 PM
  3. sakasune's Avatar
    If the price is the same, I'd get the Dev Edition. Sure you don't get Moto Maker, but extra freedom is never bad. I'd rather have the unlocked bootloader and not need it than need it and not have it.
    Yeah, I share that viewpoint too...I'd rather have it and and not need it too. I almost used those exact words in my OP.

    And yes, they are the same price ($549.99).
    11-19-2013 03:32 PM
  4. drvier8's Avatar
    I was in the same boat when choosing, but I went with a regular one because everytime I got close to buying the DE, I would go look at the white model in the store. I decide I did not like white (they're pretty dirty in the stores) so I went motomsker instead (all black with red accents).
    11-19-2013 05:05 PM
  5. sakasune's Avatar
    I was in the same boat when choosing, but I went with a regular one because everytime I got close to buying the DE, I would go look at the white model in the store. I decide I did not like white (they're pretty dirty in the stores) so I went motomsker instead (all black with red accents).
    I've been meaning to get to the Verizon store to take a look, I always want to hold the phone in my hand before buying one. If I see a dirty white one in the store, that might be enough to sway me to motomaker.
    11-20-2013 09:31 AM
  6. Miamagn's Avatar
    I haven't been able to find the 32gb on the Verizon website. Seems to be the 16gb version directly through Verizon. Where have you seen the 32gb? Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but the only place I've found a moto x for use on Verizon network that is 32gb is the developer edition directly through Motorola. I'm very interested in a 32gb version, but I'm on Verizon and can't leave. Also must buy off-contract to keep unlimited data.
    11-20-2013 09:57 AM
  7. JRDroid's Avatar
    I haven't been able to find the 32gb on the Verizon website. Seems to be the 16gb version directly through Verizon. Where have you seen the 32gb? Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but the only place I've found a moto x for use on Verizon network that is 32gb is the developer edition directly through Motorola. I'm very interested in a 32gb version, but I'm on Verizon and can't leave. Also must buy off-contract to keep unlimited data.
    Go to Moto X by Motorola - A Google Company and click design yours. You are only able to get the 32 GB directly from Motorola, but you can get them for any carrier and can use your carrier upgrade if you are elligable.

    I was in the same boat when choosing, but I went with a regular one because everytime I got close to buying the DE, I would go look at the white model in the store. I decide I did not like white (they're pretty dirty in the stores) so I went motomsker instead (all black with red accents).
    Same color scheme I went with. Flat black or woven black?
    11-20-2013 10:01 AM
  8. FSRBIKER's Avatar
    Go with a Developer Edition and buy a DBrand skin if you don't like the white back. Buy Moto X Skins | dbrand
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    11-20-2013 12:24 PM
  9. sakasune's Avatar
    Go with a Developer Edition and buy a DBrand skin if you don't like the white back. Buy Moto X Skins | dbrand
    Ladies and gentlemen, we might have a winner here! I love it, I think that's even more customization than Moto Maker. And they even have a "wood" back before Motorola does LOL (though it is just vinyl). Now I have to decide whether to get the black carbon fiber or the black titanium (and if I should get the front too). Thanks for the tip!
    11-20-2013 02:11 PM
  10. Mark_Venture's Avatar
    Yeah, with no root for KK, and its future uncertain... DE X is probably the better deal, since it can be rooted after unlocking the bootloader.
    11-20-2013 03:16 PM
  11. sakasune's Avatar
    Yeah, with no root for KK, and its future uncertain... DE X is probably the better deal, since it can be rooted after unlocking the bootloader.
    Hmm...good point. Is that because of the security changes they made in 4.3?
    11-20-2013 03:48 PM
  12. Mark_Venture's Avatar
    Hmm...good point. Is that because of the security changes they made in 4.3?
    KK is 4.4. JCASE has put out the root method for the release rom and "camera fix" OTA.

    He tweeted that he isn't going to release a root for 4.4... there is a post on XDA with a link to a tweet... but just see this post -> xda-developers - View Single Post - [DONATIONS] Root for Moto x 4.4 in that thread.

    So unless someone else roots it, those with locked boot loaders will be out of luck.
    11-20-2013 04:22 PM
  13. sakasune's Avatar
    KK is 4.4. JCASE has put out the root method for the release rom and "camera fix" OTA.

    He tweeted that he isn't going to release a root for 4.4... there is a post on XDA with a link to a tweet... but just see this post -> xda-developers - View Single Post - [DONATIONS] Root for Moto x 4.4 in that thread.

    So unless someone else roots it, those with locked boot loaders will be out of luck.
    I'm aware that KK is 4.4, but I was referring to the point that Google added SELinux to Android in 4.3 and I thought that caused issues with rooting.

    I'm unable to find additional info regarding rooting the DE X...is that rooted a different way?

    EDIT: I think I'm definitely going with the DE X at this point, I just want to make sure I know what I'm getting into it.
    11-20-2013 05:00 PM
  14. Mark_Venture's Avatar
    I'm aware that KK is 4.4, but I was referring to the point that Google added SELinux to Android in 4.3 and I thought that caused issues with rooting.

    I'm unable to find additional info regarding rooting the DE X...is that rooted a different way?

    EDIT: I think I'm definitely going with the DE X at this point, I just want to make sure I know what I'm getting into it.
    SELinux doesn't help rooting. I haven't paid attention to the VZW GS4 with its 4.3 update, so not sure if that has been rooted.

    In anycase to root DE X w/KK -> https://plus.google.com/110773150384...ts/VhtJtg92sTP works fine. its what I followed.
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    11-20-2013 08:09 PM
  15. sakasune's Avatar
    In anycase to root DE X w/KK -> https://plus.google.com/110773150384...ts/VhtJtg92sTP works fine. its what I followed.
    Great! Thank you!
    11-21-2013 09:02 AM
  16. GrillMouster's Avatar
    I don't think DBrand, or any other brand, skins will completely cover the white backplate and edges. However, pairing a skin with a bumper case would hide any trace of white.
    11-22-2013 02:02 PM
  17. sakasune's Avatar
    I don't think DBrand, or any other brand, skins will completely cover the white backplate and edges. However, pairing a skin with a bumper case would hide any trace of white.
    I did notice that after playing with their site for a while, but I think what it will cover will be sufficient. I don't really like bumper cases, prefer something more like the ZAGG Invisible Shield for protection. I already ordered the Dev Edition, so I'll see if I can stand the white background and will order the skin or shield depending on that outcome. Thanks everyone!
    11-22-2013 02:15 PM
  18. techitrucker's Avatar
    Developer Edition and a case. Easier to remove bloat if it has any and it will be worth more when the X2 comes out and you want to sell it. If you don't do the developer phone at least avoid putting your name on it. I think people are going to regret that down the road.

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    12-04-2013 03:52 AM
  19. xyzlene's Avatar
    dev. better resale!!!
    12-04-2013 08:12 PM

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