11-27-2013 11:28 AM
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  1. draconianchaos's Avatar
    I have a friend who doesn't fully trust touchless control. I want to sideload the GEL.apk on her device running 4.2.2 with touchless control disabled and homescreen listening enabled. I know the touchless control utilizes a low power core in the x8 system. Will the GEL listening have an adverse affect on the performance of the device?
    11-25-2013 09:09 PM
  2. Rocketsaucev2's Avatar
    It's listening. Always recording your conversations. How else would it know when you say ok Google now?

    -Moto X-
    howdydoesit likes this.
    11-25-2013 09:11 PM
  3. bandityo's Avatar
    Always listening always recording and sending all ur info to Google for the nsA

    Posted via Android Central App
    11-25-2013 09:20 PM
  4. JungleLarry's Avatar
    Camera's always on too. Obama sees your nipples.

    Voice activation on GEL doesn't make a difference because your phone is on anyway. Touchless Control works because the X8 chipset allows the Moto X to constantly be in a low power state....waiting...listening for your secrets.
    11-25-2013 09:38 PM
  5. draconianchaos's Avatar
    Please remove the tinfoil hats. The purpose isn't to discuss security. The purpose is to discuss any decrease in functionality of the device. Eg hits to battery life.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using AC Forums mobile app
    UJ95x likes this.
    11-25-2013 10:05 PM
  6. tdizzel's Avatar
    I have a friend who doesn't fully trust touchless control.
    Please remove the tinfoil hats.
    I ain't sayin, I'm just sayin
    Anthony_NE and TheLibertarian like this.
    11-25-2013 10:27 PM
  7. TheLibertarian's Avatar
    I'm failing to see the correlation between the launcher and Touchless Control.

    ...just disable Touchless Control...?
    11-26-2013 12:12 AM
  8. still1's Avatar
    I have a friend who doesn't fully trust touchless control. I want to sideload the GEL.apk on her device running 4.2.2 with touchless control disabled and homescreen listening enabled. I know the touchless control utilizes a low power core in the x8 system. Will the GEL listening have an adverse affect on the performance of the device?
    so far GEL is not draining my battery on my N4 and my n4 dont even have the low power core.

    if anything it should be better on moto X.
    11-26-2013 09:08 AM
  9. Gunnyman's Avatar
    It's moot anyway because GEL's ok Google doesn't work anyway. At least not on my phone. I think Motorola disabled it because it doesn't utilize the x8.

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    11-26-2013 09:28 AM
  10. still1's Avatar
    It's moot anyway because GEL's ok Google doesn't work anyway. At least not on my phone. I think Motorola disabled it because it doesn't utilize the x8.

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    its not disabled on moto X https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...NE1-j62IM#t=57

    at 0.58 seconds
    11-26-2013 09:34 AM
  11. Gunnyman's Avatar
    Interesting. My search bar doesn't have "say ok Google" written there and lots of folks around the internet confirm the same. Maybe we're using a different GEL apk?

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    11-26-2013 09:42 AM
  12. JungleLarry's Avatar
    Interesting. My search bar doesn't have "say ok Google" written there and lots of folks around the internet confirm the same. Maybe we're using a different GEL apk?

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    Did you try this?

    http://phandroid.com/2013/11/14/how-...oogle-command/
    11-26-2013 09:47 AM
  13. still1's Avatar
    Interesting. My search bar doesn't have "say ok Google" written there and lots of folks around the internet confirm the same. Maybe we're using a different GEL apk?

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    could be because u haven't updated the offline speech voice.

    see post by JungleLarry above
    11-26-2013 09:51 AM
  14. Gunnyman's Avatar
    Just went through the steps. No love. For you guys who have it working are you also on at&t?

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    11-26-2013 09:58 AM
  15. Anthony_NE's Avatar
    I'm running GEL on my X and once the Kit Kat update hit it eliminated the "OK google" from home feature. Word on the street is it was disabled so as not to interfere with the X's toucheless control command of OK Google now. Im with at&t.

    Posted via Moto X
    JungleLarry likes this.
    11-26-2013 10:04 AM
  16. drvier8's Avatar
    its not disabled on moto X https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...NE1-j62IM#t=57

    at 0.58 seconds
    He's running GEL, but the phone is still on 4.2.2 (see non transparent notification bar and blue icons). Google Now voice activation (hotword) doesn't work with Kit Kat upgrade.
    11-26-2013 10:33 AM
  17. Gunnyman's Avatar
    Ooh good catch. Glad I'm not crazy.

    Posted via Android Central App
    11-26-2013 10:38 AM
  18. drvier8's Avatar
    Ooh good catch. Glad I'm not crazy.

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    I understand the feeling. I posted in a couple places (here, Motorola forums) and nobody seemed to get what I was saying. Now, more folks are reporting it. There's an extended thread over at XDA about it ([Q] Kit kat update broke Google now hotword detection on moto x - xda-developers).
    JungleLarry likes this.
    11-26-2013 10:46 AM
  19. bandityo's Avatar
    Didn't break it we don't need it cause we have OK Google now always listening would be redundant

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    11-26-2013 02:13 PM
  20. drvier8's Avatar
    Didn't break it we don't need it cause we have OK Google now always listening would be redundant

    Posted via Android Central App
    It worked with 4.2.2. For it not to work now without explanation is "broken" by my definition. All of the settings are still there, it simply doesn't work.

    Since they are separate functions (one by google, the other by motorola), i should be able to turn off both, one, or none. If I've already done a primary search with Ok Google Now (touchless controls) and received the answer in Google Now/Search, I should be able to continue searching from there without having to initiate touchless controls again (it is slower).
    11-26-2013 02:22 PM
  21. JungleLarry's Avatar
    Didn't break it we don't need it cause we have OK Google now always listening would be redundant

    Posted via Android Central App
    To be fair, Touchless Control only gives an advantage if you don't want to pick up your phone. Being able to just use a hotword while navigating your phone would be faster since Touchless Control has to first listen to what you say, then relay it to Google Now. The "OK, Google" feature in GEL skips the middle-man.
    11-26-2013 02:25 PM
  22. drvier8's Avatar
    To be fair, Touchless Control only gives an advantage if you don't want to pick up your phone. Being able to just use a hotword while navigating your phone would be faster since Touchless Control has to first listen to what you say, then relay it to Google Now. The "OK, Google" feature in GEL skips the middle-man.
    Exactly.
    11-26-2013 02:35 PM
  23. bandityo's Avatar
    and not to mention, the NSA wouldnt want double convesations from you to record...takes more hard drive space back at the pentagon.
    11-27-2013 08:23 AM
  24. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    and not to mention, the NSA wouldnt want double convesations from you to record...takes more hard drive space back at the pentagon.
    Or even in the huge compound they're building in Utah.

    Sent from my LG870 via Tapatalk 2
    11-27-2013 08:30 AM
  25. renegademoose's Avatar
    Is there any down side to installing this? Seems like Google is basically skinning their own devices now...
    11-27-2013 11:04 AM
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