01-24-2014 03:10 PM
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  1. GadgetGator's Avatar
    I'm a little worried about that. I use Twitter a lot, so I think I'd get a burn in quickly. And I only use like 50% brightness, maybe this can help me avoid a burn in?
    I think you are over thinking things. Are you planning on leaving the twitter screen on all day? No? Then you will be fine. And yeah, keeping the screen dimmer will help even more I think.

    and how does the back of the phone exactly feel? is it rubbery smooth like the n5's back?
    That depends on what color you get. Different colors have different textures. I got the black one with the pattern under it and it feels really nice and doesn't slip out of my hand either. It's not plastic, it's more rubbery in feel. It's hard to describe until you touch it. But it is good.
    01-12-2014 08:46 PM
  2. Ry's Avatar
    So lately I've been thinking about buying a Moto X but I still have some doubts about the phone that are the only thing stopping me from getting it:
    1. burn in: does it get a burn in easily? My current phone doesn't have an OLED display so I don't know how bad it can get. And if it does, can it be 100% fixed with apps like Screen Burn-in Tool?
    2. future proof: I'm planning on keeping this phone for at least 18 months. Since the Moto X is, technically, a dual-core phone (and yes, I know about X8), I'm worried about it not being able to handle heavier apps in the future.
    3. display: is the screen good? I'm deciding between the Nexus 5 and the Moto X and this is important to me. The Nexus 5 has a 1080p screen and 441ppi screen while the Moto X has a 720p and 316ppi. So my question would be is it a huge difference or not?
    4. updates: do you think it will keep getting updates from Google? I know it will stop getting them at some point, but how long until it stops?
    1.
    2. Haven't noticed any issues. Have had my Moto X for a few months now.
    3. I am not worried at all.
    4. Display is fine. Human eye can't really detect higher than around 300 PPI anyway.
    5. The Moto X will stop getting updates 2 years after first release (per Punit Soni, Motorola).
    01-12-2014 10:00 PM
  3. GadgetGator's Avatar
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    5. The Moto X will stop getting updates 2 years after first release (per Punit Soni, Motorola).
    That kind of annoys me simply for the fact that developers start gearing things to the latest version. I guess if the prices for new devices stays low it's okay. But with proper hardware specs there is no reason why phones couldn't be supported longer. Except for their quest to sell more phones. I just wish things lasted longer. Such a disposable society we live in.

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    01-13-2014 01:36 AM
  4. karmamule's Avatar
    That kind of annoys me simply for the fact that developers start gearing things to the latest version. I guess if the prices for new devices stays low it's okay. But with proper hardware specs there is no reason why phones couldn't be supported longer. Except for their quest to sell more phones. I just wish things lasted longer. Such a disposable society we live in.

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    Even if they stop giving updates after 2 years, it really doesn't become a serious problem until apps stop supporting the version of Android you were left "stranded" on, and since the Moto X will be kept very up to date until that point I would imagine whatever version it's left on will be widely supported by app makers for at least another year or two more. You may not get the latest and greatest Android features, but your phone could still be very usable for quite a bit longer than end-of-support date.
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    01-13-2014 01:21 PM
  5. GadgetGator's Avatar
    Even if they stop giving updates after 2 years, it really doesn't become a serious problem until apps stop supporting the version of Android you were left "stranded" on, and since the Moto X will be kept very up to date until that point I would imagine whatever version it's left on will be widely supported by app makers for at least another year or two more. You may not get the latest and greatest Android features, but your phone could still be very usable for quite a bit longer than end-of-support date.
    That's true, but I wish things were supported just a wee bit longer. I think if computers required this frequent upgrading I would have abandoned them long ago. I just like things to last a bit longer and I take care of my stuff really well....so planned forced obsolesce is not a concept that goes over well with me.
    01-13-2014 02:20 PM
  6. karmamule's Avatar
    Yeah I hear ya GadgetGator, it's the downside of Moore's Law.... Things advance so fast that gadget makers concentrate on keeping up with the cutting edge rather than paying much attention to those contentedly using their favorite gadgets for multiple years.
    01-13-2014 02:28 PM
  7. Ice_Cold_Q's Avatar
    Why not go into a store and hold the Moto X for yourself?

    I'm from the UK and the moto x ain't in no shops, hopefully will be soon,


    The dark colors are a nice soft touch.
    Moto X feels great on hand... I would say there is not other phone which feels great like Moto X.. if you read reviews of moto X one thing everyone mention is how they feel great on hand
    Yeah from the reviews everyone likes the feel of the phone, i hope I feel the same, I'm hopefully gna buy this phone because of the feel mainly(and active notifications)

    A question for you, i know the moto x is smaller than the nexus 5 from the specs, but how much smaller is it really, I'd life it if it was substantial, i miss the size of small phones
    01-14-2014 06:55 PM
  8. grooks's Avatar
    Yeah from the reviews everyone likes the feel of the phone, i hope I feel the same, I'm hopefully gna buy this phone because of the feel mainly(and active notifications)

    A question for you, i know the moto x is smaller than the nexus 5 from the specs, but how much smaller is it really, I'd life it if it was substantial, i miss the size of small phones
    phoneArena has a Visual Phone Size Comparison tool.
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    01-15-2014 11:00 AM
  9. KWKSLVR's Avatar
    Every AMOLED panel is going to be subject to burn in. My Galaxy Nexus has a SEVERE case of it. However, I used it for navigation a lot, like, hours a day. I can already see extremely light burn in on my Moto X, but mostly because I know how to go looking for it. There's really nothing that can be done about it. It's the nature of the technology. I wouldn't let it be something to keep me from getting the device.
    01-15-2014 11:17 AM
  10. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    phoneArena has a Visual Phone Size Comparison tool.
    Thanks for the link, I didn't realize the X was that much smaller than the Nexus 5. Looks like a nice phone to hold.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk 2
    01-15-2014 11:33 AM
  11. karmamule's Avatar
    Thanks for the link, I didn't realize the X was that much smaller than the Nexus 5. Looks like a nice phone to hold.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk 2
    I just replaced an iPhone 5s with an Xperia Z1s as my second phone, and while there's stuff I really like about my new gadget, the handfeel between it and the Moto X couldn't be more night and day different. (with the Moto X being far more comfortable to hold)
    01-15-2014 12:54 PM
  12. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    I just replaced an iPhone 5s with an Xperia Z1s as my second phone, and while there's stuff I really like about my new gadget, the handfeel between it and the Moto X couldn't be more night and day different. (with the Moto X being far more comfortable to hold)
    I hear ya. I love my Nexus 5 and it feels fine in my hand but the X would probably be overall easier to handle.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk 2
    01-15-2014 01:06 PM
  13. mynameis's Avatar
    I'm a little worried about that. I use Twitter a lot, so I think I'd get a burn in quickly. And I only use like 50% brightness, maybe this can help me avoid a burn in?
    Are you having burn in problems now? I don't think I would worry about it. I use Twitter a good amount too and many other apps and my screen looks just as good as when I bought it.

    Sent from my XT1056 using Tapatalk
    01-15-2014 01:12 PM
  14. Pollster's Avatar
    For your two questions
    1. I love the screen and no issues so far
    2. I don't believe anyone can predict the future here.
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    01-15-2014 01:46 PM
  15. jlgraham's Avatar
    Don't know why #1 was skipped, but I thought I'd keep the OP's format.

    2. Burn In: I had this issue with my Galaxy Nexus right from the get go. So far, I haven't noticed any issues with my Moto X. I don't think it will be a problem unless, as some have mentioned, you leave the screen on the same image for long period of time. I, admittedly, did do this with my Gnex (had it set to screen on when plugged in, bad idea in hindsight).
    3. Future Proof: I don't think that there will be any apps that this phone cannot handle, save for maybe some intense games in a year. Even then, the GPU is pretty darn good.
    4. Display: The Moto X has a great screen. Maybe not the most accurate colors or the highest resolution, but I haven't been left wanting. I had an HTC one for just over a week (returned it for various reasons), and have also used an iPhone 5C for a period, and I'm not at all disappointed by the Moto X. As others have said, at 4.7 inches, the difference between 720P and 1080P is negligible.
    5. My Galaxy Nexus (admittedly on Verizon, where updates go to die) stopped getting updates at 4.2.2. So I think, especially with a near stock version of Android, the Moto X will do as well as Nexus devices in terms of updates. Aparently, Google has only committed to updating Nexus devices for 18 months after release.
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    01-15-2014 05:32 PM
  16. KWKSLVR's Avatar
    Well be under no illusions guys, this thing will burn in. Especially if you play games that don't go full screen and leave the software buttons up. I can tell mine with a white background, and I've only had this puppy for around 2 months.

    I've been running an app on my GNEX at night called "Screen Burn-In Tool" to see if it does any good, and in probably 200 hours of use, it hasn't done much. Granted, this is severe burn in. Like a strip of purple against a background where the software buttons are. I will say this, if you think your screen is fine. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT.... one more time, ABSOLUTELY DO NOT download one of those apps because if you have a small amount of burn in you didn't notice before, you'll notice it now and it'll drive you BATTY.

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    01-15-2014 06:18 PM
  17. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Well be under no illusions guys, this thing will burn in. Especially if you play games that don't go full screen and leave the software buttons up. I can tell mine with a white background, and I've only had this puppy for around 2 months.

    I've been running an app on my GNEX at night called "Screen Burn-In Tool" to see if it does any good, and in probably 200 hours of use, it hasn't done much. Granted, this is severe burn in. Like a strip of purple against a background where the software buttons are. I will say this, if you think your screen is fine. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT.... one more time, ABSOLUTELY DO NOT download one of those apps because if you have a small amount of burn in you didn't notice before, you'll notice it now and it'll drive you BATTY.

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    This is a problem. I understand these screens can have burn in, but it shouldn't happen in two months. A year or so? Ok. But two months is bad. And I'd hope Moto would do something about that.
    01-16-2014 11:49 AM
  18. Pollster's Avatar
    Well be under no illusions guys, this thing will burn in. Especially if you play games that don't go full screen and leave the software buttons up. I can tell mine with a white background, and I've only had this puppy for around 2 months.
    This is a problem. I understand these screens can have burn in, but it shouldn't happen in two months. A year or so? Ok. But two months is bad. And I'd hope Moto would do something about that.
    This is a problem for some. As noted by KWKSLVR, he has this issue quickly on every AMOLED device.
    I, OTOH, had the GNex for 2 years and now have the Moto X for 2 months and there's no sign of burn-in on either of my devices.
    I do not discount the KWKSLVR, but I think his statement should be ammended "Well be under no illusions guys. If you use your device like I do, this thing will burn in."
    01-16-2014 01:08 PM
  19. KWKSLVR's Avatar
    This is a problem for some. As noted by KWKSLVR, he has this issue quickly on every AMOLED device.
    I, OTOH, had the GNex for 2 years and now have the Moto X for 2 months and there's no sign of burn-in on either of my devices.
    I do not discount the KWKSLVR, but I think his statement should be ammended "Well be under no illusions guys. If you use your device like I do, this thing will burn in."
    I don't do anything different than anyone else, at least not with my MX. The only thing I do for an extended amount of time is play a little Ingress, and the entire background is black. KitKat helps with that a little now that the black bar is missing at the bottom on your home screen, but nothing changes what's going on in your notification bar (and yes, the white up there is a big improvement over blue). Attached is a picture of my GNex, bear in mind, it's my second one and was in use for about 7 months before getting my MX. My MotoX already shows signs of it, but it's too faint (luckily) to pick up with a camera. So, unless you don't use your screen, burn in is going to happen. The degree in which you notice it depends on what you're doing.

    There is no fixing it. It's just the nature of the technology. The blue diodes burn out faster than red and green, period. The best thing you can do is try to cut down on the amount of time that you have that awesome black bar up against a white background. The first time I ever noticed burn in on my GNex was watching Netflix. Use your phone long enough, and it will happen. If you don't do anything to notice it, then you'll happily think you don't have it and there's nothing wrong with that. Questions about the Moto X???-img_20140117_240534880.jpgQuestions about the Moto X???-img_20140117_242936287.jpg
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    01-17-2014 01:39 AM
  20. Pollster's Avatar
    I don't do anything different than anyone else, at least not with my MX.

    Massive Snip

    If you don't do anything to notice it, then you'll happily think you don't have it and there's nothing wrong with that.
    I'm willing to concede that maybe you're just unlucky. You've had this issue within months on multiple devices while multiple others in this thread have not in multiple years.
    I've done everything possible to notice the issue and simply don't have it on either of the devices you report.
    I only took exception to the assertion that everyone will have it.
    I'm only pointing out that "will" should be "may"
    01-17-2014 10:01 AM
  21. oldDummy's Avatar
    Redundant
    01-17-2014 10:28 AM
  22. oldDummy's Avatar
    Yeah from the reviews everyone likes the feel of the phone, i hope I feel the same, I'm hopefully gna buy this phone because of the feel mainly(and active notifications)

    A question for you, i know the moto x is smaller than the nexus 5 from the specs, but how much smaller is it really, I'd life it if it was substantial, i miss the size of small phones
    Traded a N5 for a G. Traded that for an X.
    Keeping the X.
    Nuf said.
    01-17-2014 10:38 AM
  23. SIMMMONS's Avatar
    Well be under no illusions guys, this thing will burn in. Especially if you play games that don't go full screen and leave the software buttons up. I can tell mine with a white background, and I've only had this puppy for around 2 months.

    I've been running an app on my GNEX at night called "Screen Burn-In Tool" to see if it does any good, and in probably 200 hours of use, it hasn't done much. Granted, this is severe burn in. Like a strip of purple against a background where the software buttons are. I will say this, if you think your screen is fine. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT.... one more time, ABSOLUTELY DO NOT download one of those apps because if you have a small amount of burn in you didn't notice before, you'll notice it now and it'll drive you BATTY.

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    Well, that answers my question... I think I'll go for the Nexus 5.
    01-17-2014 02:54 PM
  24. tflash's Avatar
    Well, that answers my question... I think I'll go for the Nexus 5.
    Right - Screen burn in is unacceptable to me in any form. It reminds me of the old black (gray) and white CRT touch screens they used at the library in the 80s to replace card catalogs.
    01-17-2014 03:23 PM
  25. mattjopete's Avatar
    So lately I've been thinking about buying a Moto X but I still have some doubts about the phone that are the only thing stopping me from getting it:
    1. burn in: does it get a burn in easily? My current phone doesn't have an OLED display so I don't know how bad it can get. And if it does, can it be 100% fixed with apps like Screen Burn-in Tool?
    2. future proof: I'm planning on keeping this phone for at least 18 months. Since the Moto X is, technically, a dual-core phone (and yes, I know about X8), I'm worried about it not being able to handle heavier apps in the future.
    3. display: is the screen good? I'm deciding between the Nexus 5 and the Moto X and this is important to me. The Nexus 5 has a 1080p screen and 441ppi screen while the Moto X has a 720p and 316ppi. So my question would be is it a huge difference or not?
    4. updates: do you think it will keep getting updates from Google? I know it will stop getting them at some point, but how long until it stops?
    1. Not that I have noticed on my wife's phone. Though I will say her display (display not glass) straight up broke earlier this week for seemingly no reason which we just got a new Moto Maker device today for free because of it.
    2. This phone really is quite responsive for being "only" a dual core. I really think most any phone since the Snapdragon S4 came out is plenty fast for most uses. That said, my Nexus 5 is noticably faster when compared side by side. Unless you are side by side you won't likely notice a difference though.
    3. Personally I think it is oversaturated when compared to my Nexus. I think its a little better than my old Samsung SII though. You really won't notice too much of a resolution drop going from a 1080P screen down to the 720P of the Moto X. The battery savings for this are more than worth it.
    4. I hope Moto will keep it updated, that has been my problem with any non Nexus for a while. However, I think its becoming less and less of a big deal as Android matures and I think Moto will be better now that they are under Google's roof. I care more that it works right than if it is newest.
    01-17-2014 03:34 PM
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