02-26-2014 11:07 AM
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  1. JRDroid's Avatar
    Yes, I believe that it would be a downgrade.
    It really depends on how you use your phone. For me, the Nexus 5 would be a downgrade from the Moto X. Sure, the Nexus 5 has more powerful hardware, but we have really reached a point where software is more important because even mid range hardware (Moto G level) will run Android with little to no problem. There are software features on the X that the N5 does not have and I use multiple times a day every day. First and foremost is touchless control. I drive a ton. It is illegal (and unsafe) to touch your phone while driving where I live. Being able to initiate a quick text, phone call, change music, etc. from a locked phone is a killer feature for me. The Nexus 5 can't do that. Having "always listening" from the home screen is not the same, and as far as my use is concerned, is virtually indistinguishable from the feature being entirely absent. The next is Moto Assist. Yes, Tasker, Llama, and others can emulate this feature, but none are as easy to set up and use as Assist. The other biggie for me is Active Display. I like it so much more than a notification LED. With an LED, yes you can see you have a notification. With active display, I can see, without touching my phone, whether it is a notification I want to bother dealing with right then or not.
    01-22-2014 07:13 AM
  2. benhmadison's Avatar
    It really is a lateral move. I went from the X to the N5 and there are pros and cons to both. If you are just itching to make a change then I would go for it, but either way you will end up with a great device.
    01-22-2014 11:21 AM
  3. TofuTwit's Avatar
    I passed in the motox and bought the nexus. Love it but it didn't knock my socks off the way the n4 did. Played with my wife's motox and eventually got one too during the black Friday sale. Have not regretted making the switch.

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    01-22-2014 12:01 PM
  4. ultravisitor's Avatar
    No matter what, some people will consider a move from a Nexus to ANY other phone to be a downgrade--unless the move is to a more recent Nexus.

    Really, though, you're splitting hairs between the Nexus 5 and Moto X. They're about on par with one another. It just depends on how you'll be using your phone and what you value.
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    01-22-2014 12:17 PM
  5. Mikhailov's Avatar
    How is the speaker on the Moto X? In my limited time with it (other friend's devices), I noticed it to be better than the N5 or even the HTC one's speaker. Are there other factors that made some of you former N5 users want to switch?
    01-22-2014 02:04 PM
  6. bbycrts's Avatar
    There is no such thing as a downgrade if you're choosing something that works better for you. Specs mean nothing if the overall package doesn't make sense to the way you work.
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    01-22-2014 02:08 PM
  7. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    I currently have both devices with me 100% of the time, and they are both active with AT&T SIM cards in them. I like them both, but my priorities may be different than yours. So here are my thoughts when comparing the two:

    The Nexus 5 has a better display and camera than the X. This isn't even close, and there are quantifiable ways to prove the display is superior. It has better color accuracy, gets brighter, and is far more visible in daylight (which is extremely important to me). The X has a really good display for being AMOLED, but it's still AMOLED and has all the draw backs associated with that technology (over saturated colors, poor daylight visibility), but I haven't had it long enough to know if it suffers from the "black splotch syndrome" or will suffer burn-in (I suspect no burn-in since the display stays off far more often than any other phone I've used).

    The camera on the X got much better with the updates, and so did the N5. The N5 camera is far more consistent for me, though, with focus being better, shutter speed faster, and low-light performance easily better. That being said, both camera are serviceable.

    The software experience is going to be a preference. I love the voice actions on the X, and I actually use them in the car. The breathing for notifications is great. The N5 has GEL, but that's not a huge selling point in comparison to the X honestly. The X wins on software.

    The X also wins in battery life. This isn't even close. I have franco kernel on the N5, with undervolting, and the X still stomps it in battery life. I can go a day and half without charging the X. The N5 will mostly make it through a day, but it also sits on my wireless charger while I'm at work. Which brings up something else, the N5 has wireless charging. For someone that sits at a desk this is a really nice feature. I can just pick it up and set it back down when I'm done using it. Honestly, because of this I don't worry about the battery life of the N5, but that's my situation. Someone else's may be different.


    When it comes time to pick one up to use, I usually go for the N5. The two most important things for me are the display and camera, and I know the N5 won't disappoint in either of those when I go to use it. Daylight visibility alone (especially here in California) is almost enough by itself to choose the N5 for my particular use case.

    All that being said, I wouldn't tell someone with an X that they should get the N5, but I would tell anyone they should give it a fair shot. If you've done that and still like the X better I can't fault your decision at all, especially if it does what you need it to do better than any other device available today.
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    01-22-2014 02:34 PM
  8. thegrants82's Avatar
    I made a personal comparison list and put check marks next to what I like about both phones. The Moto X won my personal showdown. I uploaded the list. I guess this means it's eBay time?
    LOL....nice list.....Not worth arguing with you. I love the Moto X, bought mine the day they came out. Fact of the matter is that the Moto X is a little long in the tooth at this point and they are practically giving them away. The N5 is just plain worth more and it has a much better camera. The Moto X right now at this point is a downgrade from the N5. Love the Moto X, I really do and I cant wait for the second generation of it but given the choice, if I could only have one then it would have to be the N5.
    01-22-2014 03:57 PM
  9. oldDummy's Avatar
    Quite possibly the closest alternative to the Nexus 5, while still retaining the mostly-stock Android experience, is Motorola's Moto X. You lose out on core count and display resolution, but in return you get a smaller/more comfortable body, potential for color customization, and a far more usable camera today. The Moto X is just a much more polished device overall, ...if having access to virtually-stock Android is of value to you and you want a cleaner experience today, the Moto X is a great alternative to the Nexus 5.
    ...(Nexus 5).........it just still needs a few refinements before I can comfortably recommend it to normal smartphone shoppers.
    Brian Klug , Anandtech Nexus 5 review
    01-22-2014 04:04 PM
  10. someguy01234's Avatar
    Sorry I'm late to this thread but I'm not sure how you can say the Moto X screen look sharper when it's 720p, when the N5 is 1080p. The N5 have more than twice the number of on screen pixels compared to the Moto X (2MP vs 0.9).

    You may mean the contrast on AMOLED screen is better which is true or that AMOLED screen have very unrealistic color saturation making it pop more.

    But it's true that Goggle always tune their all their Nexus screens to be on the washed out side on purpose.

    Otherwise I think Moto X is a better choice for you.

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    01-22-2014 04:24 PM
  11. someguy01234's Avatar
    but it's still AMOLED and has all the draw backs associated with that technology (over saturated colors, poor daylight visibility), but I haven't had it long enough to know if it suffers from the "black splotch syndrome"
    I have never own an AMOLED device that doesn't have black blotches, it goes with the territory.

    But the MotoX screen have RGB matrix so it have good detail. I still like AMOLED more for the contrast and black level. Saturation issue for AMOLED wouldn't be so bad if the manufacturer include a kennel feature and software to changes the display settings, Asus does this. I never have issues with AMOLED brightness in sunlight, I love it's viewing angle which is basically 180* side to side.

    LCD have it's own issues like poor contrast and backlight leakage. In the end it's just preferences.

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    01-22-2014 04:31 PM
  12. Aquila's Avatar
    Moving between these two is basically moving between the #1 and #2 devices in the top 10 list, but which direction it is and how close that gap appears is very subjective. I consider the X to be slightly higher than the Nexus, but both are pretty far ahead of 3rd place, IMO.
    01-22-2014 04:37 PM
  13. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    If the cost is the same, I think you should get the one you like more, and not worry about whether someone else thinks it's a downgrade or an upgrade or whatever. Phones have gotten powerful enough that most of them work well enough, and the difference is mostly in how you interact with them. Do you like how it feels in your hand? Do you like looking at the screen? Does it sound good to you? Is the reception adequate for your needs? Does the battery last long enough?

    I bought the Moto X because I really wanted a phone smaller than the "flagships", and I've been very happy with it. It feels really nice in my hand, fits in my pockets, and has really excellent reception. The battery is good enough. These were the critical items for _me_. I don't much care about the camera or watching videos on my phone. (That being said, I've been pleasantly surprised with the quality of photos. Phones take MUCH better photos than they used to.)

    My only regret is that it doesn't do wireless charging. I had that feature two phones ago, on the Pre, and I still miss it. But no phone on the market was perfect for me,and this one is good enough.

    I hope you enjoy whatever phone you end up with.
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    01-22-2014 04:37 PM
  14. Mikhailov's Avatar
    Sorry I'm late to this thread but I'm not sure how you can say the Moto X screen look sharper when it's 720p, when the N5 is 1080p. The N5 have more than twice the number of on screen pixels compared to the Moto X (2MP vs 0.9).

    You may mean the contrast on AMOLED screen is better which is true or that AMOLED screen have very unrealistic color saturation making it pop more.

    But it's true that Goggle always tune their all their Nexus screens to be on the washed out side on purpose.

    Otherwise I think Moto X is a better choice for you.

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    I can't explain it. It just looks nicer to me. The Nexus 5 is not a bad display, but it does seem washed out when comparing side by side.

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    01-22-2014 06:39 PM
  15. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    I can't explain it. It just looks nicer to me. The Nexus 5 is not a bad display, but it does seem washed out when comparing side by side.

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    I can explain why. People in general prefer a cool and saturated display. It's pleasing to the human eye.

    The Nexus 5 display is the most technically accurate display that has shipped on an Android phone to date. It's not washed out our muted or anything. It's accurate and presents things the way they should appear. Any other display in comparison is wrong.

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with your preference for one display versus other, but I just wanted to explain why people think AMOLED displays look so great.

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    01-22-2014 06:58 PM
  16. jrb363's Avatar
    I have a Nexus 5 that's about two months old, which I do like, but am heavily getting discouraged from going to a Moto X. I switched from an HTC One in November because that device stopped working properly. I like the Nexus 5 but I love some of the Moto X's features: most notably touch less control, active notifications, better battery life, and the display is better (to my eyes anyway). So far my friend says not to do it it's a downgrade, and my wife says "no you just got that phone." My pro list outweighed my con list for getting the Moto X. Do you think I am downgrading if I do this and should I just stick with what I have?
    They're about equal in all honesty. If you like the software features the Moto X offers then I would get it. However, if your wife doesn't need a new phone then just save your money and stick with the Nexus 5.
    01-22-2014 07:17 PM
  17. Mikhailov's Avatar
    They're about equal in all honesty. If you like the software features the Moto X offers then I would get it. However, if your wife doesn't need a new phone then just save your money and stick with the Nexus 5.
    I think after two hard days of deliberation, I'm going to stick with the N5 for now. As much as I love the Moto X and its features, I think you're right. Tough decision (first world problems I know) but I know I still have a great phone. When the Moto X 2 comes out, I think I'll immediately go for it.
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    01-22-2014 08:09 PM
  18. ffejjj's Avatar
    I think after two hard days of deliberation, I'm going to stick with the N5 for now. As much as I love the Moto X and its features, I think you're right. Tough decision (first world problems I know) but I know I still have a great phone. When the Moto X 2 comes out, I think I'll immediately go for it.
    Try Dynamic Notifications in the play store. It will fill your Active Notification wants since your sticking with the N5

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    01-22-2014 08:11 PM
  19. Mikhailov's Avatar
    Try Dynamic Notifications in the play store. It will fill your Active Notification wants since your sticking with the N5

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    I did give it a shot. I live it, but it seems to work only when it wants and magically drains my battery.
    01-22-2014 08:13 PM
  20. Speedygi's Avatar
    I don't think its a downgrade. It may seem to be a downgrade in terms of specs, but if you factor in things like the voice control, the Motorola built apps, battery life and the build quality, it is in fact an upgrade.
    01-22-2014 08:36 PM
  21. zobog's Avatar
    I have to have always listening Google now and Motorola Assist. And I would hate to give up active notifications. I wouldn't trade my X for any other phone. Only other phone I could live with is the Maxx since it has same features as the X.

    Other two phones I really like are the nexus 5 and lgg2. And the Maxx, but I just consider it a Moto x with a big screen and battery.
    I am afraid I would hate the Battery life on the nexus. Other then that is a sweet phone. The G2 is awesome too.

    I think you made the right decision. Since you haven't gotten used to the moto x features you won't miss them. Enjoy your nexus but be sure and try out the next Motorola phone down the line.

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    01-22-2014 10:38 PM
  22. hawonjung's Avatar
    Yes it is a downgrade when you look at hardware specs but buttery smooth and battery life is upgrade. I weigh in battery life and buttery smooth higher priority. So to me moto x is a better device.


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    01-22-2014 10:55 PM
  23. Mikhailov's Avatar
    I have to have always listening Google now and Motorola Assist. And I would hate to give up active notifications. I wouldn't trade my X for any other phone. Only other phone I could live with is the Maxx since it has same features as the X.

    Other two phones I really like are the nexus 5 and lgg2. And the Maxx, but I just consider it a Moto x with a big screen and battery.
    I am afraid I would hate the Battery life on the nexus. Other then that is a sweet phone. The G2 is awesome too.

    I think you made the right decision. Since you haven't gotten used to the moto x features you won't miss them. Enjoy your nexus but be sure and try out the next Motorola phone down the line.

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    Those features are exactly the reason I was considering the X. And I made my decision to stay, but I still can't seem to stop playing with Moto Maker. A friend told me I sounded like Gollum arguing with himself.
    01-23-2014 04:52 AM
  24. davidnc's Avatar
    My pro list outweighed my con list for getting the Moto X. Do you think I am downgrading if I do this and should I just stick with what I have?
    In a word ..... Nope
    01-23-2014 05:39 AM
  25. Mikhailov's Avatar
    In a word ..... Nope
    No it's not a downgrade or no I should not stick with what I have?
    01-23-2014 05:40 AM
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