11-27-2014 09:13 AM
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  1. droidman2177's Avatar
    If you would point to some links besides just talking so condescending to us then we would be happy to hear you. But all you are saying is "you're wrong and don't know what you are talking about".

    Posted via VZW Moto X on the Android Central App
    @A895-I can't belive these posts. You guys are just having a conversation about your experiences and then the seemingly Know-it alls are all over you. It is totally ridiculous. I know it is hard, but I would try and ignore these posts. Who knows who these people are. I am enjoying reading about your experiences even though there are "no controls" in your methods. Good grief. Carry on, please.
    02-23-2014 08:28 AM
  2. Justin Bannon's Avatar
    After reading all these comments, I decided just to find out for myself and upgrade to ART. I made the right choice, at least for now. It's still early to tell, but it is SO much faster in every way. Even web browsing in stable Chrome is smooth. I'm running 4.4.2 on VZW with Go Launcher Ex on top, but not much else besides the 208 apps the Moto X had to upgrade from Dalvik to ART.
    A895 likes this.
    03-04-2014 04:04 AM
  3. A895's Avatar
    UPDATE 5: I have been running Dalvik with the 4.4.2. update and I have had very good battery life. As in truly all day battery life. Performance has been great and web browsing is super smooth.

    via VZW Moto X or Droid RAZR M
    03-04-2014 10:27 AM
  4. PiggyMiddle's Avatar
    I have been using ART ever since the OTA 4.4 roll out. This is a screen shot from 9 this morning.
    Moto X: ART vs Dalvik-battery-use-001.gif

    I should mention that I have removed a lot of the surplus apps that I never use. Currently 37 in the "Disabled" list for apps.
    03-04-2014 12:08 PM
  5. Roger Gibbens's Avatar
    There are loads of data from real scientific method testing of ART vs Dalvik that is publicly available. I am just blown away but the "ignorance is bliss" be celebrated here. If coming to this board is about guessing and speculation incorrectly of already well known applied knowledge than things have changed alot and I will let you get back to your thread of fiction and I hope I didn't over agitate things with reality.

    I am deeply sorry.
    Well to paraphrase Commander Tucker on Enterprise----Books and laboratories aren't the real world.

    What may work perfectly on the experiment devices (subject and control) is not necessarily applicable to what will happen with your device or mine. There are too many factors besides solar or atmospheric interference to make actual, scientifically approved testing possible when the phones actually leave the testing facility. I don't think I'm stating anything that most of the posters on this forum already know....and neither are you.
    03-04-2014 12:54 PM
  6. eric002's Avatar
    I have now been running ART on my Moto X for the past 2-3 weeks straight. I thought I would post my findings below:

    Performance:
    I think performance was very good, I could consistently juggle multiple apps all the time. But, there is a caveat; web browsing sucks. I tried multiple web browsers and finally I got consistently decent performance on Chrome Beta. Regular Chrome was atrocious. Other than that apps opened quickly and without delay, and in app performance (outside of web browsing) was fantastic. Web browsing was killing me though.

    Battery Life:
    Battery life as many Moto X owners know is always been a high point. Before ART my battery lasted all day consistently and I had a hard time killing it in one day, honestly. With ART well..... it`s hard to say exactly but, its all day battery life for sure. But, I`m not seeing anything awesome about it. If anything I say its a placebo affect. It may appear to be longer but, I cant tell for sure. I just switched to Dalvik today so if there is any difference I will update later on.

    Odds and Ends:
    • I noticed that I get a Google Services has stopped at least twice a day. I`m thinking it has to do with not being compatible with ART. I will keep an eye out for it today.
    • I noticed instantly upon switching to Dalvik, that opening and closing apps are a little slower. Take that how you will.
    • Again with web browsing, upon switching to Dalvik web browsing was so much more smoother on Chrome Beta it was like a breath of fresh air how much smoother it was.


    NOTE: Any other findings I have I will post tonight after running Dalvik for the day.
    you know it's interesting! Yesterday, my battery lasted only just about 8 and a half hours in training class which I thought was pretty normal with a little use during the day... I mean was upsetting don't get me wrong my Android OS use the 40 percent and my display used up about 45 to 50 percent... Now today on the other hand, now today I use my phone a little less my display usage is down to 30 to 35 percent mi Android OS usage is then so about 20 percent and my phone hasn't wavered off about 75 to 80 percent of battery all day long! I'm trying to figure out the variable a missing but I don't get it! I mean don't get me wrong, I love it but I want to keep on replicating today's experience more so in the future of course any suggestions?? Thanks!

    Posted via Android Central App
    03-04-2014 06:31 PM
  7. cappy718's Avatar
    UPDATE 5: I have been running Dalvik with the 4.4.2. update and I have had very good battery life. As in truly all day battery life. Performance has been great and web browsing is super smooth.

    via VZW Moto X or Droid RAZR M
    I've stuck on art since the last time I posted here. I think if my phone is in an area that doesn't get good service the android OS usage goes up. It's probably some conspiracy with Verizon. They prolly told moto that this phone better not show "cell standby" as the reason the battery is draining. Lol! When I'm at home on wifi or somewhere with good service... I easily get 20+ hrs out of this phone

    Posted via my Moto X DE
    03-05-2014 05:38 AM
  8. A895's Avatar
    I've stuck on art since the last time I posted here. I think if my phone is in an area that doesn't get good service the android OS usage goes up. It's probably some conspiracy with Verizon. They prolly told moto that this phone better not show "cell standby" as the reason the battery is draining. Lol! When I'm at home on wifi or somewhere with good service... I easily get 20+ hrs out of this phone

    Posted via my Moto X DE
    Whats interest is that everyone that has 4.4.2. Nexus and Moto X have higher android OS usage in the battery. I think that is very odd.

    Posted via VZW Moto X or Droid RAZR M on the Android Central App
    03-05-2014 08:09 AM
  9. cappy718's Avatar
    Whats interest is that everyone that has 4.4.2. Nexus and Moto X have higher android OS usage in the battery. I think that is very odd.

    Posted via VZW Moto X or Droid RAZR M on the Android Central App
    I actually haven't checked my Nexus 7 but I know to enable art on the N7 I have to do something weird. It's not as simple as on my Moto x

    Posted via my Moto X DE
    03-05-2014 12:25 PM
  10. Roger Gibbens's Avatar
    Actually, it is nearly an identical process for both devices. I have switched to ART on both devices and in my opinion, my devices are working more smoothly and the touch screens seem more responsive. But I'm not much of a "techie" and an expert in ZERO technology fields.
    03-05-2014 03:15 PM
  11. cappy718's Avatar
    Actually, it is nearly an identical process for both devices. I have switched to ART on both devices and in my opinion, my devices are working more smoothly and the touch screens seem more responsive. But I'm not much of a "techie" and an expert in ZERO technology fields.
    I'll have to look up how to do it on my N7. I just didnt search that much honestly.

    Posted via my Moto X DE
    03-05-2014 10:33 PM
  12. Roger Gibbens's Avatar
    Tap on the build number 7 times (if I remember correctly) in the settings>about>phone>build number and the developer options will open.
    03-06-2014 10:24 AM
  13. charlee08's Avatar
    I switched back to Dalvik for the first time in months and the one thing I definitely noticed was that when I scrolled in apps like Facebook, Twitter, G+, etc it had a lag. Back on ART now and it's back running smoothly.

    Posted with my Moto X
    03-06-2014 06:31 PM
  14. cappy718's Avatar
    Tap on the build number 7 times (if I remember correctly) in the settings>about>phone>build number and the developer options will open.
    Got it... I knew it was slightly goofy to get to it but not hard. Got art running on Nexus 7 2013 now. But had to charge battery last night. I'll check it out today. Thanks!

    Posted via my Moto X DE
    03-07-2014 05:37 AM
  15. SilverRocket88's Avatar
    I switched back to Dalvik for the first time in months and the one thing I definitely noticed was that when I scrolled in apps like Facebook, Twitter, G+, etc it had a lag. Back on ART now and it's back running smoothly.

    Posted with my Moto X
    That's strange because when i switched to ART on my Moto X, apps like Facebook, Twitter etc. took far too long to load up. That reason alone made me switch back to Dalvik, and also the fact the phone seemed unbalanced.. i.e. some things ran fast, others slow.
    11-26-2014 02:45 PM
  16. yscty's Avatar
    To be honest I don't notice a difference in lag vs no lag in ART vs Dalvic. But what I do notice is battery life is better in Dalvic for me.....

    I used ART for several months before recently switching back to DALVIC....

    Posted via Android Central App
    11-27-2014 09:13 AM
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