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  1. grunt0300's Avatar
    Hey Jerry, which ONE would you keep if you had to choose...Moto X or Nexus 5?
    07-30-2014 07:04 AM
  2. thegrants82's Avatar
    Moto X is nice and everything but spec wise it is way long in the tooth. If you could only have one and only one then the N5 is the logical choice. That is if you had to make the choice as of right now.
    Hey Jerry, which ONE would you keep if you had to choose...Moto X or Nexus 5?
    07-30-2014 09:49 AM
  3. KWKSLVR's Avatar
    Personally, I'm over dealing with anything other than a Nexus or a developer edition of a device if there's something I want to play with. Been there, done that, and in the end hated trading one set of problems for another. If you want to root and rom that's great. Buy a phone you can actually root and rom. Don't assume you'll be able to do as you see fit and don't blame Motorola for doing what they should do. Buy a developer edition or buy a Nexus.

    It's like buying an F-250 and complaining over gas mileage and no 3rd row seating.

    Posted via Android Central App
    07-30-2014 10:15 AM
  4. BBSeattle's Avatar
    Operative phrase, Jerry's insistence that the MotoX is perfect.
    I think it's awesome that he found the perfect phone for himself. Very few times in our lives do we find anything perfect.
    More power to ya Jerry!
    07-30-2014 10:23 AM
  5. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Improved camera and I would have been all over the moto x. In this day, a meh camera just doesn't cut it and that was the only real complaint I had with the moto x. Hopefully the x+1 fixes this issue, then again it is moto and they have never been able to put a good camera in any of their devices.
    That was by far my only REAL complaint with the phone. It was otherwise nearly perfect for me. It was tough to see such grainy shots of my kids indoors that I had to go to something else. If they keep the same kind of ergonomic feel, up the screen size a hair, and add in a much improved camera, I'd probably be on board with the X+1. Kind of has me worried that Moto is doing the next Nexus since their reputation precedes them on bad cameras.
    07-30-2014 11:28 AM
  6. Premium1's Avatar
    That was by far my only REAL complaint with the phone. It was otherwise nearly perfect for me. It was tough to see such grainy shots of my kids indoors that I had to go to something else. If they keep the same kind of ergonomic feel, up the screen size a hair, and add in a much improved camera, I'd probably be on board with the X+1. Kind of has me worried that Moto is doing the next Nexus since their reputation precedes them on bad cameras.
    I agree. Camera has always been a weak point for moto. It's a shame with how they improved everything else, they just can't figure out cameras.
    07-30-2014 11:30 AM
  7. z33dev33l's Avatar
    I gotta say, it's amazing how everyone says that a bad camera just doesn't cut it and yet the horrid camera(s) on the M8 somehow receive the highest rated Android device.
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    07-30-2014 11:37 AM
  8. Ry's Avatar
    Unlike previous Android devices I've had, my Moto X is showing NO signs of slowing down. Still snappy. Still quick. I don't notice any lag as I add more apps and more pictures and more videos. Still the most perfect phone for me today.
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    07-30-2014 01:14 PM
  9. Pollster's Avatar
    +1 on the above, and as "horrid" as the camera is, it's still better than every camera on all of my previous phones. That's all I want out of the camera. It doesn't have to be the best camera on any phone, just the best one on any of my phones.
    07-30-2014 01:18 PM
  10. davidnc's Avatar
    Actually I have yet to see a picture taken with any smartphone that makes me go "Oh Wow". That being said the Moto X camera while isn't perfect ,does work good enough for me

    sent from my Moto X , Android Central Moderator
    07-30-2014 01:46 PM
  11. gabbott's Avatar
    Unlike previous Android devices I've had, my Moto X is showing NO signs of slowing down. Still snappy. Still quick. I don't notice any lag as I add more apps and more pictures and more videos. Still the most perfect phone for me today.

    I feel the same way. I phone hop to every flagship every year. Not this year.
    07-30-2014 02:05 PM
  12. Wildo6882's Avatar
    I agree. Camera has always been a weak point for moto. It's a shame with how they improved everything else, they just can't figure out cameras.
    They have been historically bad. They make otherwise near perfect devices. Hopefully they can get a little better sensor in the X+1 and Nexus 6.

    I gotta say, it's amazing how everyone says that a bad camera just doesn't cut it and yet the horrid camera(s) on the M8 somehow receive the highest rated Android device.
    Actually I have yet to see a picture taken with any smartphone that makes me go "Oh Wow". That being said the Moto X camera while isn't perfect ,does work good enough for me

    sent from my Moto X , Android Central Moderator
    The M8 takes much better pics, IMHO, compared to the X. I used an X for quite awhile and also used a GPE M8 for about a month. The M8 with its stripped down 4 uP camera still took better, more vibrant, and less grainy pics than the X ever took for me. The only issue with the M8 is the inability to do much cropping. But I don't do much anyway. Many of my pics with the X (if they weren't taken in perfect daylight) turned out really grainy and poor colors and quality. Lost out on some good pics with my toddler this past Christmas because of it. It was the single reason I got rid of an otherwise perfect phone for me. I really did love the quick motion launch for the camera. If they improved the sensor on the next version, I could go all in on it.

    And there aren't any phone cameras that make me crap myself either, but the X, when compared to the competition, is the clear loser on picture quality. My cell phone is my daily camera, and that's important to me with a toddler. I like to catch the moments and share them with family as well as print some out sometimes. The X's pictures were far too grainy to print out.
    07-30-2014 03:12 PM
  13. Premium1's Avatar
    They have been historically bad. They make otherwise near perfect devices. Hopefully they can get a little better sensor in the X+1 and Nexus 6.





    The M8 takes much better pics, IMHO, compared to the X. I used an X for quite awhile and also used a GPE M8 for about a month. The M8 with its stripped down 4 uP camera still took better, more vibrant, and less grainy pics than the X ever took for me. The only issue with the M8 is the inability to do much cropping. But I don't do much anyway. Many of my pics with the X (if they weren't taken in perfect daylight) turned out really grainy and poor colors and quality. Lost out on some good pics with my toddler this past Christmas because of it. It was the single reason I got rid of an otherwise perfect phone for me. I really did love the quick motion launch for the camera. If they improved the sensor on the next version, I could go all in on it.

    And there aren't any phone cameras that make me crap myself either, but the X, when compared to the competition, is the clear loser on picture quality. My cell phone is my daily camera, and that's important to me with a toddler. I like to catch the moments and share them with family as well as print some out sometimes. The X's pictures were far too grainy to print out.
    Exactly. The Htc one is a good camera as long as you don't plAn on zooming and cropping. It does have a tendency to blow some images out depending on lighting. There hasn't been any real android camera to wow me.
    07-30-2014 03:15 PM
  14. Wildo6882's Avatar
    Exactly. The Htc one is a good camera as long as you don't plAn on zooming and cropping. It does have a tendency to blow some images out depending on lighting. There hasn't been any real android camera to wow me.
    I agree completely. For my use, iPhones have the best camera. But I'd really like to stick to Android and don't want to go to iOS just for the camera.
    07-30-2014 03:17 PM
  15. Premium1's Avatar
    I agree completely. For my use, iPhones have the best camera. But I'd really like to stick to Android and don't want to go to iOS just for the camera.
    I'm tempted by the lumia simply for the camera. If only we could have that on android
    07-30-2014 03:22 PM
  16. Wildo6882's Avatar
    I'm tempted by the lumia simply for the camera. If only we could have that on android
    That's no kidding. I definitely won't be going to Windows, either. But man that camera is nice.
    07-30-2014 03:24 PM
  17. Premium1's Avatar
    That's no kidding. I definitely won't be going to Windows, either. But man that camera is nice.
    Same. WP just doesn't really appeal to me, other than those cameras
    07-30-2014 03:25 PM
  18. worknman's Avatar
    I'm assuming that this is one of your dislikes of the Moto X. But why is it being difficult to root a downfall? The great thing about the Moto X is the fact that it's a really, really good device out of the box and rooting is almost unnecessary.
    First, I disagree that it's a really good device out of the box. I think it is mediocre at best, for all the reasons I listed. In fact, I dislike it so much, I actually went back to the iPhone 5s (provided by my employer) that I was previously using. But I don't think rooting would fix very much of that, so that's why I said I was overlooking it. But as long as phones (esp carrier-locked ones) don't come with ad-blocking and wireless tether out of the box, there will ALWAYS be a reasonn to root, MO.

    Jerry has been praising the Moto X for almost a year now (since it has been out). His opinion is his opinion, of course. But I haven't been surprised at all of his satisfaction with the phone. I like that he gives all the flagships their fair shake and withholds overall opinion of devices until he's actually used them day-to-day. Out of all the Android phones that are out there, it says a lot about the Moto X from what someone who makes a living off of studying and reviewing tech to say it is the best one.
    He actually went as far as to say (paraphrasing): 'I can't think of any improvements that need to be made to this phone.' Well, I just listed several. That was the entire point of this thread.
    07-30-2014 04:09 PM
  19. Ry's Avatar
    DYNAMIC NOTIFICATIONS
    The BIGGEST problem I have with dynamic notifications is the clock. I like how it comes on when I take the phone out of my pocket or pick it up, so I can see the time without having to turn it on. But it also comes on every time a mouse farts in my apartment. Well, not really, but if I have it docked on my desk, just the SLIGHTEST nudge of the desk causes it to come on. Even sometimes taking a drink of water and putting the cup back down on the desk causes it to come on. This is an annoyance because I'm constantly catching it out of the corner of my eye, thinking I've missed a notification. Solution: Allow the user to turn the clock off without disabling dynamic notifications completely.

    My other major gripe with this feature is that you can't prioritize the order in which dynamic notifications are listed. So, if I get a text message and then a Google+ notification, the Google+ notification appears front and center. I'd like the ability to list the order in which these things should appear.
    First.. It's Active Display.

    Second.. It's functioning as designed.

    DO NOT DISTURB MODE
    This was the main reason I originally purchased the phone, as I REALLY wanted this built into the ROM, and didn't know at the time that the Galaxy S4 actually had a better version. Some things that could be improved here:

    - No way to turn it on manually, like if you wanted to take a nap in the middle of the afternoon. I mean, WTF? Even the iPhone can do this.

    - No way to set different times on weekdays and weekends

    - No way to white list anyone but favorites. So if you want your boss set as a favorite but don't want him/her to bypass the DND mode, well... that's just too bad.

    - No way to auto respond with text. (If the driving mode has this feature, why not the DND mode?)

    I'm glad to see Android L getting a do not disturb mode, but sadly, it appears to have some of the same limitations as the Moto X does.
    Again. Functioning as designed. Go back and watch the Motorola hangout or Mark Rose's Google+ AMA where they discuss improving their apps. Their philosophy is for the features to be done in a "smarter" way, not giving manual control to the user for every little option. This is why we have Motorola Assist and not Smart Actions.

    That said - Motorola can pump out new features whenever they want. And I get them from Google Play not in a ROM update that has to go through carrier certification.

    DRIVING MODE
    I appear to be in the minority here, but I just didn't have very much luck with this at all. The feature that's supposed to start auto playing music NEVER worked, and I couldn't get turn-by-turn voice navigation to work over bluetooth in my car, even though the same feature works perfectly on my Nexus 4.

    In short, I just found this phone to be a huge letdown, and FAR from perfect.
    You're probably in the minority.
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    07-30-2014 04:41 PM
  20. bujin's Avatar
    My Moto X is pretty much perfect for me as well. Love the size and ease of one handed use - I don't like the idea of larger. While I've been a Nexus fan, the small Motorola additions are great: can't imagine living without active notifications and Moto Assist (and touchless controls are pretty great, though non-essential)
    07-30-2014 05:05 PM
  21. rxnelson's Avatar
    Actually I have yet to see a picture taken with any smartphone that makes me go "Oh Wow". That being said the Moto X camera while isn't perfect ,does work good enough for me

    sent from my Moto X , Android Central Moderator
    http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/6/12...hy-awards-2014
    07-30-2014 05:11 PM
  22. BreakingKayfabe's Avatar
    First, I disagree that it's a really good device out of the box. I think it is mediocre at best, for all the reasons I listed. In fact, I dislike it so much, I actually went back to the iPhone 5s (provided by my employer) that I was previously using. But I don't think rooting would fix very much of that, so that's why I said I was overlooking it. But as long as phones (esp carrier-locked ones) don't come with ad-blocking and wireless tether out of the box, there will ALWAYS be a reasonn to root, MO.



    He actually went as far as to say (paraphrasing): 'I can't think of any improvements that need to be made to this phone.' Well, I just listed several. That was the entire point of this thread.
    Yes. I have listened to every AC podcast for the past year and a half. I heard what he said and you're still furthering my point. His opinion of the Moto X is that different from yours as far as improvements go. I also was a little taken aback by him saying that but I also think it's because it is what works best for him. Out of so many Android phones out there, he is saying that's what he would recommend.
    07-30-2014 06:33 PM
  23. Rocketsaucev2's Avatar
    Moto X is nice and everything but spec wise it is way long in the tooth. If you could only have one and only one then the N5 is the logical choice. That is if you had to make the choice as of right now.
    I can't think of one time in the past 11 months the specs have made any hindrance on my Moto X
    gabbott, Ry, Evilnut and 2 others like this.
    07-30-2014 07:27 PM
  24. bryanmsi's Avatar
    I don't know Jerry, but he is right. I have tried the IPhone 5s, the Galaxy S4, the Galaxy S4 Active, the HTC One M8 and I still prefer the Moto X. Its the perfect all-rounder AND the only one that is truly usable hands free while driving.

    Posted via Android Central App
    07-31-2014 12:10 AM
  25. Jerry Hildenbrand's Avatar
    Jerry's insistence that the Moto X is 'perfect'-moto-swag-1.jpg

    Perfect I say. Perfect. :P
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    07-31-2014 12:27 AM
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