1. ezzzzz's Avatar
    so I know this is a topic that people have lots of opinions on and theres lots of technical articles on it to.....but wht I'm looking for is what Motorola says......I swear I saw somewhere from moto directly that says the best way to charge the 2013 X was to leave it plugged in overnite.....do they have an official recommendation for X 2014?

    Posted via the Android Central App with my Moto X G1
    12-14-2014 06:11 AM
  2. Sailindawg's Avatar
    I dunt know what the "best way" is, but I put a usb Qi receiver into the USB port & I'm enjoying Qi charging with this phone. Works great!
    12-14-2014 04:21 PM
  3. peteygrizz's Avatar
    I charge mine over night with the stock charger that came with it. Under normal use my phone makes it through the day without needing to be charged. For the times when I am in an area with poor reception or have a heavier usage day than normal, I have a Powermod Quick Charge 2.0 car charger which is fantastic. Gets the phone from <10% to >80% in around 15 minutes.

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    12-14-2014 04:54 PM
  4. kreep's Avatar
    Sailindawg how long does it take to charge wirelessly? (probably not a word)
    Did you install the Qi receiver under the back cover or over the cover?
    Can you unplug the mini USB and use it if you wanted to charge regularly?
    12-14-2014 07:02 PM
  5. Sailindawg's Avatar
    Qi wireless charging is not a fast way to charge. I usually get through a full day (12-14 hours, only had the phone a few days) and the phone gets put on a Qi charger overnight.

    I also use an AirDock for my car. That is a Qi charging car dock. The Qi charging keeps up with maps, music and hands free texting. If I want a positive charge on the dock, I'll turn the screen off. Otherwise, the battery level is maintained, but what charge is being added is also being used by the screen when on.

    I use a TPU case. I put the Qi reciever between the phone & case. To unplug the USB reciever, I would need to remove the case. Even though I purchased the turbo charger, I'll use the Qi charging instead. I have a pad at the office, AirDock for the car & a Qi pad at home. I just do not like micro USB connectors. I think that the port is too fragile.
    kreep likes this.
    12-15-2014 06:50 AM
  6. ezzzzz's Avatar
    thanks for everyone help, after years of being in the dark..I convinced my wife to leave iPhone and go android...she got a X 2014. I'm just trying to make sure she has the best experience and never goes back...mainly cuz I was sick and tired trying to figure out icloud!

    Posted via the Android Central App with my Moto X G1
    12-15-2014 05:26 PM
  7. Rukbat's Avatar
    With Lithium batteries, they are pretty much "charge them as you like, relax and enjoy your phone"
    Please allow me to disagree vigorously. See Battery University - How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries. Sure you can charge them whenever, but if you drain them almost all the way every day, the battery won't give you full performance for even a year, and will be dead in less than 2. (As opposed to some 10 year old lithiums I still use in my 10 year old phone.)

    1. Slower and cooler is better.
    The difference in life between a 1C charge and a 0.5C charge has a smaller influence on lifespan than the difference in lifespan between batteries. That said, almost no phone charges anywhere near 1C (or even 0.5C - 1C with a 3750mA battery would be a 3.75 Amp charge rate).

    as long as you are within the temperature range of the battery chemistry, the cooler you keep the battery the better it is (within reason - don't put it in the fridge).
    As long as you stay within the charging temperature range (which is different than the discharging temperature range), there's very little change in lifespan.

    Wireless charging is slow and as long as the circuit isn't generating heat, it's a great way to go.
    Wireless receivers generate heat. If they're inside the case, against the battery, the heat is transferred to the battery by conduction. It's not much, but in a hot car it can make enough of a difference to harm the battery.

    2. When possible, avoid the extremes. Charge to 80% or less, recharge at 20% or more.
    Again, vigorous disagreement, and the above link. Try to never let the charge drop below 40%. Charging at above 60% gives you a slightly shorter battery life. (The chart is easy 4th grade arithmetic.)

    Lithium batteries do not have a "memory", though a full charge/discharge can be helpful when you first get the phone
    Three times. To condition the battery. If it's been sitting on the shelf somewhere for a few months or more. (And, since it won't hurt, do it with every new battery, since you don't know how long it's been since it was manufactured or last charged.)

    and once every few months so the recharging algorithm in your phone can adapt to reductions in capacity properly as the battery ages.
    "Recharging algorithm"? It's fixed in hardware, it doesn't "adapt". Only do full charge/discharge cycles if the battery has been sitting for a few months. (And let the charge drop to about 40% before putting it away for storage.) The charge file in Android has nothing to do with charging the battery. ("Recalibration" is about as useful as wings on a truck.)

    With all that being said, Lithium has come a long way and you can happily use a properly designed fast charger and charge it all the way to 100% and let it discharge to shutdown every single day, and you probably won't see more than a 10-15% capacity drop in the first year.
    Not borne out by actual testing. But treat the battery right - the above link is a whole course on batteries by a company that tests thousands of them (they make battery analysis equipment) and you'll get 100% performance after the first year, and a 10-15% drop after a few years.

    And with more and more phones having to go into the shop for battery replacement (and manufacturers charging $45 for a $10 battery, 10 cents worth of cable and a 20 cent connector), it's more important than ever to maximize the life of the battery. $100 for a battery replacement every 6 months doesn't sound like much, but I'm sure most people have better things to spend the money on.
    mrjspeed and benhaube like this.
    12-15-2014 06:01 PM

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