09-05-2015 09:04 PM
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  1. Bwangster12's Avatar
    Ultra power save mode already provides such savings while asleep on the Note 4 and a simple flick of the top of the display to turn it off. All my verbose point was is the key killer is the display, so if a light to medium user the Moto X Pure will be fine, but heavier users expecting Note 4/5 battery life will probably be disappointed.

    The least subjective tests for battery life are the endurance tests and are good indicators for display efficiency. Initial video endurance reviews state two hours less than the G4 which means about four hours less than the Note 4/5 (they are two hours longer than the G4). Key word is INITIAL reviews, since need to see more to confirm.

    Another point as folks mentioned is relative brightness. 50% on the Moto X Pure could be a lot brighter than 50% on another device. We need measurements of brightness and the devices adjusted accordingly. Anandtech and Display Mate as example test this way.

    Added: Doze though would be less intrusive than ultra mode on the Note- it shuts a bunch of stuff down.
    I am eager to see the real user tests. I know the display is the biggest battery offender, but I really want to think that Motorola wouldn't release this phone knowing it has worse battery life than all their other phones.

    Once upon a time I had the HTC Thunderbolt, so at least my bar is not high.
    09-04-2015 08:11 AM
  2. rushmore's Avatar
    I am eager to see the real user tests. I know the display is the biggest battery offender, but I really want to think that Motorola wouldn't release this phone knowing it has worse battery life than all their other phones.

    Once upon a time I had the HTC Thunderbolt, so at least my bar is not high.
    Agreed. It makes no sense that Motorola would put a power hog display in a fixed battery device- a battery 630mAh smaller than the smaller, lower res Play. Hopefully it is more a case of relative brightness.
    09-04-2015 08:18 AM
  3. Bwangster12's Avatar
    Agreed. It makes no sense that Motorola would put a power hog display in a fixed battery device- a battery 630mAh smaller than the smaller, lower res Play. Hopefully it is more a case of relative brightness.
    Exactly... these SOT reviews can be explained away pretty quickly if Bloomberg had brightness on 35% and a few others had theirs on 100%.
    09-04-2015 09:31 AM
  4. Ry's Avatar
    I'm still going with "if it lasts me a day, then it's OK". The real world test is gonna be my actual use.

    Looking forward to 9/15.

    Posted via Android Central App (Moto X)
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    09-04-2015 09:36 AM
  5. Aquila's Avatar
    Just about every device since late 2013 seems to be able to get most users through a normal day without issue. The exceptions are rare (some S6 users, knockoff phones, etc). I'd be pretty floored if this was worse than the 2014 X given that the battery is much huger and the processor is better, etc. It is hilarious to see commentary about a 3k mAh battery being "small". That battery is ENORMOUS for a phone. Yes, there have been bigger - but the Note 5 has the same 3k mAh battery and has better battery life than the Note 4 - which had a larger battery.

    mAh does NOT equate to battery life. Battery life equates to battery life. The list of factors that influence battery life is very long and depends mostly on factors that have nothing to do with the phone itself - the main drivers of poor battery life are the environment and the user. In short, the processor, screen tech and usage have FAR more influence on battery life than the size of the battery itself.

    "Actual battery performance will vary and depends on many factors including signal strength, network configuration, age of battery, operating temperature, features selected, device settings, and voice, data, and other application usage patterns".
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    09-04-2015 10:04 AM
  6. popartist's Avatar
    I'm still going with "if it lasts me a day, then it's OK". The real world test is gonna be my actual use.

    Looking forward to 9/15.

    Posted via Android Central App (Moto X)
    Generally my view as well with any of my devices, since it's silly not to put it on the charger while sleeping.
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    09-04-2015 10:47 AM
  7. Samsung.Galaxy.S3's Avatar
    IMHO, it doesn't matter what any and every reviewer says in their article/review. If you use the phone exactly like the reviewer did during the review period, you should get similar results. But the question is: do you use it exactly like that? Probably not. What does that mean? It means battery life according to the review should be taken with a grain of salt (or whatever spice you like), because your usage is different. Heck, my current GS3 lasts me the entire day after unplugging it in the morning. Incredible!
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    09-04-2015 04:27 PM
  8. Clocks's Avatar
    I would like 4 hours SOT while off charger for 12+ hours. If I can get that I'll be good most days.
    09-04-2015 04:28 PM
  9. H_Wordsmythe's Avatar
    I'm currently using an LG G4. I'll freely admit that I average 3 hours SoT daily. And I'll also admit that I expect/want more battery life with every new generation of phones. I'm not sure why so many of you are so quick to 'settle' and not hold the OEM's accountable. On certain days, my usage patterns are totally dictated by that SoT battery life. Today, I was in the carpool line to pick up my daughter. I was down to 50% battery due to the fact my workplace has horrible reception where I sit. I was getting into a game as I sat there in my car, but knew I had to stop playing because I needed the extra juice to take me the rest of the evening (more kid chauffeuring). Doesn't happen every day, but like I said my usage is handcuffed by my mediocre battery life.
    As with all phone models, battery life on the G4 varies wildly from user to user. I average 5 hours SOT with my brightness always set at 75%. But I consistently have a strong 4G signal, which makes all the difference.
    09-04-2015 08:16 PM
  10. Ntchwaidumela's Avatar
    Generally my view as well with any of my devices, since it's silly not to put it on the charger while sleeping.
    I turn my phone off when I go to bed and charge it overnight. So I'm ready to go in the morning. Plus, I don't want to be disturbed when I'm sleeping.
    09-05-2015 12:44 AM
  11. Ntchwaidumela's Avatar
    Something to consider is this: Samsung and LG have a lot of extra stuff going on in the background. TW isn't exactly the lightest version of Android.
    This is exactly right! We have to remember that the X Pure is not hampered by all the bloatware crap that runs in the background. So it's not slowly sucking the life out of your battery, even when you're not actually using the phone. And no Touchwiz!
    09-05-2015 12:50 AM
  12. Almeuit's Avatar
    I turn my phone off when I go to bed and charge it overnight. So I'm ready to go in the morning. Plus, I don't want to be disturbed when I'm sleeping.
    No way I could do this. My cell phone is my only phone so if someone truly needed me they'd not be able to get a hold of me.
    09-05-2015 01:17 AM
  13. Ntchwaidumela's Avatar
    No way I could do this. My cell phone is my only phone so if someone truly needed me they'd not be able to get a hold of me.
    My work schedule is so crazy, I need all the undisturbed sleep I can get. I only sleep via a series of naps anyway. Four hours at a time is about it.
    09-05-2015 03:38 AM
  14. lewwill's Avatar
    I'm still going with "if it lasts me a day, then it's OK". The real world test is gonna be my actual use.

    Looking forward to 9/15.

    Posted via Android Central App (Moto X)
    Agree. My wife has a 2014 Moto X and has it in her hand a lot. When she plugs it in at night it still has 40-60% left.
    09-05-2015 07:53 AM
  15. lewwill's Avatar
    No way I could do this. My cell phone is my only phone so if someone truly needed me they'd not be able to get a hold of me.
    It will charge if you leave it on. Just limit what it will accept at night.
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    09-05-2015 07:55 AM
  16. jephanie's Avatar
    I turn my phone off when I go to bed and charge it overnight. So I'm ready to go in the morning. Plus, I don't want to be disturbed when I'm sleeping.
    Moto Actions takes care of that for you.

    Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
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    09-05-2015 09:43 AM
  17. ewak12321's Avatar
    I think it will be similar to my s4 active. From what I remembered it was one of first mobile phones with fullhd I'm not sure, but I expect max 4,30h sot with very heavy use but after one year 4-3h

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    09-05-2015 10:36 AM
  18. rushmore's Avatar
    Seems a given though we will get everything from: "Battery life SUCKS!" to "Battery life is AMAZING!". Battery life threads tend to be subjective comedy, so best to compare to your own device comparisons Looking forward to Anandtech and other more reputable site reports on the battery life.
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    09-05-2015 10:48 AM
  19. Almeuit's Avatar
    It will charge if you leave it on. Just limit what it will accept at night.
    I know it'll charge if on. I never shut my phone off (just reboots). If i need to charge overnight I just plug in and pass out .
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    09-05-2015 12:52 PM
  20. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    No way I could do this. My cell phone is my only phone so if someone truly needed me they'd not be able to get a hold of me.
    It will charge if you leave it on. Just limit what it will accept at night.
    I know it'll charge if on. I never shut my phone off (just reboots). If i need to charge overnight I just plug in and pass out .
    That's also my situation.

    Sent from my rooted Nexus 7 (2013) using Tapatalk
    09-05-2015 01:21 PM
  21. GeordieAffy's Avatar
    Moto Actions takes care of that for you.

    Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
    How does that work?

    And to stay within the topic lol (just kidding) does this kind of stuff drain battery?

    Reason I ask is because I know on my tablet having features like Eye Detection and S Pen detection etc hurts the battery a little. Then again Samsung is crap at software optimisation lol.
    09-05-2015 06:36 PM
  22. deadpenguins's Avatar
    How does that work?

    And to stay within the topic lol (just kidding) does this kind of stuff drain battery?

    Reason I ask is because I know on my tablet having features like Eye Detection and S Pen detection etc hurts the battery a little. Then again Samsung is crap at software optimisation lol.
    There is a "sleeping" option that you can enable which will silence your phone during a selected time range. If someone calls you twice within 5 minutes it will go through, though (you can disable this). There is also an option to whitelist people to always be able to reach you. While this mode is on there is a persistent notification, and you can turn this mode off by pressing it. One of the many useful moto enhancements!

    I can't imagine this using much battery at all, as there are no additional sensors or heavy monitoring involved.
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    09-05-2015 09:04 PM
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