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  1. Mdbills484's Avatar
    I get excellent life from my S6 Edge BUT the Pure is more a competitor to the N5 in terms of size so that would be a more apt comparison dont you think?
    09-10-2015 12:29 PM
  2. Mdbills484's Avatar
    The new Moto X was designed and entering early production prior to Google I/O. I think its reasonable to believe that they would've added it had they known what direction Google was going with its software.

    When one device lacks something the other has, I don't consider it a lesser device. The iPhone was still a fine phone without NFC for years. The Galaxy phones are fine without front facing speakers.

    No flagship device is without some missing feature or perceived flaw because phone design is all about compromise.
    WAIT, what? so you're saying Sammy got lucky but putting in a fingerprint sensor before knowing Google would push it or maybe Sammy has a mole inside Google and got the inside scoop?
    09-10-2015 12:30 PM
  3. rushmore's Avatar
    I think Moto did not add print scanning since saw it as one of the compromise points to reach their price point targets. This device has zero enterprise aspirations and is intended as a straight up consumer device. Less finger print scanner feature weight in that regard.
    09-10-2015 12:40 PM
  4. Samsung.Galaxy.S3's Avatar
    If a phone (X Pure, iPhone, Note X, or others) lack the features you're looking for in a phone, buy another one that meets your demands. It's as simple as that.

    But to answer the original question: yes, it's just a placeholder for [only] you if this device does not meet your demands.

    In all honesty: ALL phones do not meet my demands.
    09-10-2015 12:42 PM
  5. Linebarrel86's Avatar
    WAIT, what? so you're saying Sammy got lucky but putting in a fingerprint sensor before knowing Google would push it or maybe Sammy has a mole inside Google and got the inside scoop?
    No. Samsung reacted to what Apple did. Which is why the Galaxy S5 and Note 4 got the swipe based fingerprint sensors.
    09-10-2015 12:50 PM
  6. co.ag.2005's Avatar
    No. Samsung reacted to what Apple did. Which is why the Galaxy S5 and Note 4 got the swipe based fingerprint sensors.
    This. And now with Samsung Pay, it works out well in their favor. Having owned both the iPhone 6 and GS6, making mobile payments (in the case of the iPhone) with nothing but a fingerprint is a very nice feature (don't event have to unlock the phone). Deal breaker for the Moto? Not for me, since most places I shop don't have NFC at their terminals. I do hope that VZW allows Samsung Pay for my GS6 because I would use it everywhere I shop since it supports the magnetic portion of store's terminals. But I don't plan on hanging on to my GS6 just for Samsung Pay since there's other reasons for me to get rid of it.
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    09-10-2015 01:09 PM
  7. Mdbills484's Avatar
    I think Moto did not add print scanning since saw it as one of the compromise points to reach their price point targets. This device has zero enterprise aspirations and is intended as a straight up consumer device. Less finger print scanner feature weight in that regard.
    Then how is a company like One Plus able to do it but Moto-venova cannot?
    09-10-2015 01:14 PM
  8. Mdbills484's Avatar
    If a phone (X Pure, iPhone, Note X, or others) lack the features you're looking for in a phone, buy another one that meets your demands. It's as simple as that.

    But to answer the original question: yes, it's just a placeholder for [only] you if this device does not meet your demands.

    In all honesty: ALL phones do not meet my demands.
    But that's the point, if they 10s of millions of these I might rethink my OP. If it flops, then clearly they may have missed the market unless a new and truly premium phone comes out within a few months.
    09-10-2015 01:15 PM
  9. Almeuit's Avatar
    And that's the point, fingerprint sensors work for the overwhelming majority of consumers that own iPhones or Galaxies.
    And yes they use it because it is there. I personally haven't heard any of my friends or family members say anything about "I won't get this due to the fingerprint scanner missing".
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    09-10-2015 01:21 PM
  10. Rem3Dy's Avatar
    Then how is a company like One Plus able to do it but Moto-venova cannot?
    Because One Plus left out quick charge and NFC. So the fingerprint scanner on the OPT can't even be used for mobile payments...

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    09-10-2015 01:22 PM
  11. rushmore's Avatar
    Then how is a company like One Plus able to do it but Moto-venova cannot?
    That would only be to point if the devices had the same bill of materials and total cost. There are more overall differences than this feature. I said "one" of the compromise points
    09-10-2015 01:27 PM
  12. Samsung.Galaxy.S3's Avatar
    But that's the point, if they 10s of millions of these I might rethink my OP. If it flops, then clearly they may have missed the market unless a new and truly premium phone comes out within a few months.
    That would mean every new phone that is released is a placeholder, period. Why? Because it has yet to flop or not. That would make the X Pure on par for being a placeholder.

    But you don't buy a phone because 10 million others buy, do you?
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    09-10-2015 01:35 PM
  13. dmark44's Avatar
    This phone matches Motorola's current strategy of a mainstream flagship that has a mix of higher end but not bleeding edge specs that they can market at a lower price than comparable flagships.

    They won't ever throw the kitchen sink at it. That's what the Turbo and Force are for. Bleeding edge specs that also command a high retail cost. Moto will treat those as more of a niche product rather than its mainstream device.
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    09-10-2015 01:43 PM
  14. Ken T's Avatar
    Also remember, when you say its no GS6, isn't that a $700 to $800 dollar phone, and the Moto x pure starts at $400.
    My big problem with my 2nd gen Moto x is the camera. if the camera is 50% better i'm good. Its still fast (in my opinion) and except that i'm
    running outta Storage, got the 16gig model, its still usable and works great.
    I've come to use the hands free more, like asking for searches while driving. how do you spell a word etc. I never thought i would use it but its so
    convenient.
    Now with SD card support for music movies and pics. apps on the phone. : )
    09-10-2015 02:16 PM
  15. Ry's Avatar
    JR Raphael has a review unit.

    Hands on: Getting to know the Moto X Pure Edition | Computerworld
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    09-10-2015 03:28 PM
  16. Ry's Avatar
    Michael Fisher has a review unit.

    Unboxing the new Moto X: Pure/Style (Video) | Pocketnow
    09-10-2015 03:28 PM
  17. Arlizz's Avatar
    Got quite hot while setup and transferring apps from old phone. Battery fell 3%

    Will look at this phone for about a week or two.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    09-10-2015 03:41 PM
  18. GeordieAffy's Avatar
    mmmmmmm on the misalignment. I have never owned a Moto device but build quality is meant to be good right?
    09-10-2015 04:17 PM
  19. GeordieAffy's Avatar
    Got quite hot while setup and transferring apps from old phone. Battery fell 3%

    Will look at this phone for about a week or two.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Few people have mensioned that now. Wonder if its just the inital high intense usage that causes this.
    09-10-2015 04:18 PM
  20. On2Vegas's Avatar
    mmmmmmm on the misalignment. I have never owned a Moto device but build quality is meant to be good right?
    Moto is very well know for build quality. Also, he stated he couldn't really film what he considered being slightly off. I couldn't see what he was referring.

    Few people have mensioned that now. Wonder if its just the inital high intense usage that causes this.
    Initial setup is going to heat the phone while updating apps and transferring data. It should be expected. Same thing happened when I setup my 2014. No heat issues since.
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    09-10-2015 04:23 PM
  21. whymista's Avatar
    Moto is very well know for build quality. Also, he stated he couldn't really film what he considered being slightly off. I couldn't see what he was referring.



    Initial setup is going to heat the phone while updating apps and transferring data. It should be expected. Same thing happened when I setup my 2014. No heat issues since.
    My note 4 does that anytime that I am doing a backup in TWRP or downloading an update to a rom which then updates all my apps. Thats normal for any phone I've owned.
    09-10-2015 04:43 PM
  22. Arlizz's Avatar
    Ok

    Posted via the Android Central App
    09-10-2015 05:13 PM
  23. rushmore's Avatar
    Moto is very well know for build quality. Also, he stated he couldn't really film what he considered being slightly off. I couldn't see what he was referring.



    Initial setup is going to heat the phone while updating apps and transferring data. It should be expected. Same thing happened when I setup my 2014. No heat issues since.
    True, but unusual for it to be brought up initially like this by several folks on different forums as a point of note. I need to check myself when loading apps, so hopefully a subjective rather than objective issue with the device. The last phones I recall that got real hot when loading up a bunch of apps were the Droid X2, Razr and S3. The S4 got warm (not toasty) and the Note 4 got warm. Hopefully just "subjectively" warm

    That is my own devices. The iPhone 4 and 5 got hot, as did the G3 and DNA when loading a bunch of apps.

    Temperature is subjective until at scalding, boiling, frying or flash point
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    09-10-2015 08:19 PM
  24. co.ag.2005's Avatar
    True, but unusual for it to be brought up initially like this by several folks on different forums as a point of note. I need to check myself when loading apps, so hopefully a subjective rather than objective issue with the device. The last phones I recall that got real hot when loading up a bunch of apps was the Droid X2, Razr and S3. The S4 got warm (not toasty) and the Note 4 barely got warm. Hopefully just "subjectively" warm
    My S6 and Note 5 got hot when setting those phones up while Google play downloaded and installed all my apps during initial setup. Seems like most Android phone I've owned have done this.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    09-10-2015 08:21 PM
  25. bigbuc's Avatar
    note 2 and note 3 get hot. sometimes very hot

    --sent from neglected rural America
    09-11-2015 12:57 PM
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