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  1. kj11's Avatar
    I really like this phone.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Care to extrapolate on that a little bit?
    09-19-2015 07:44 PM
  2. rushmore's Avatar
    Here are my first impressions (been using a Note 4 for a year):

    LIKE

    + Build: Looks and feels flagship to me, so can not comprehend the mid-range comments by reviewers.
    + Feel: Feels good in the hand and better than the glass Note 5
    + Display: Bright, sharp and nice color. No "pentile" envy
    + Speakers: Wow good for a phone and IMO a tad better than M8/9
    + Radios: Data and wifi radios seems solid.
    + Bumper: I actually like it. Gives a little space for the thin bezel and I do not press the buttons by mistake.

    NOT LIKE

    - Notifications: Prefer the far better battery life option of an LED.
    - UI: Not Moto's fault, but I despise the on screen nav bar taking up space. No likes and miss the home button.
    - There is 4gb less storage than the Note 5 64gb. WHERE is it?
    - Charging with any charger besides the one it shipped with takes a loooooonnng time. I'm not lugging the charger around or buying more of them and don't like how warm to hot the device gets using it anyway. Will not use the fast charger much at all.
    - Power management: No throttle option like Samsung. The Note has a power save mode that throttles the chipset 30 percent and does not impact performance unless heavy gaming. Unless playing a heavy resource game, I leave the N4 in power save mode.


    TIDBITS

    The reviews said there are no audio EQ adjustments, but there are actually separate EQ settings for the headphone jack and speakers. Bass, balanced, treble and voice (did not notice if a custom or not).

    My exfat formatted 200gb card works great and so does my converted micro to nano sim I also use in the Note 4.
    RikkiRay likes this.
    09-19-2015 09:51 PM
  3. toyanucci's Avatar
    Care to extrapolate on that a little bit?
    Elaborate not extrapolate
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    09-19-2015 10:45 PM
  4. kj11's Avatar
    Elaborate not extrapolate
    Extrapolate: *to form an opinion or to make an estimate about something from known facts.

    I'd agree that elaborate might be slightly more appropriate, but extrapolate is fine here as well.
    09-20-2015 08:04 AM
  5. rushmore's Avatar
    I have only had my Pure two days, but here are main points: 64GB black/black grippy with gray accents. Verizon carrier.

    The feel is just as slim as the Note 5, minus the slippery glass back.

    Display is great and no yellow tint and not seeing angle issues some mentioned. Mine is set to fixed 20% brightness and equals 40% setting I used on the Note 4.

    No heat issues so far.

    Sound quality from headphone jack is great and ditto relatively speaking for the stereo speakers. They get nuts loud and have clarity (I use Poweramp that has an amp adjustment to boost the volume since stock headphone output is low). Note: Be careful with adjusting the amp up and using the speakers!

    Build is PREMIUM, and feels better than the highly touted Note 5.

    UI is fast and bloat free (but I wish you could adjust app drawer, messages and setting background to something besides white). White is not battery friendly.

    The bumper I thought I would leave in the box is better than expected. It protects the device and provides a holding area for gaming, since the bezels are thin.

    Signal reception for cell and wifi is very solid and appears a step up from the Note 4.

    Games play fast and CPU hungry emulators like MAME and PSP plays smoother than the Note 4 with 805.

    Watching VR movies with the Pure is FANTASTIC. None of the screen door issues from the pentile displayed Note 4. I have a FreeFly VR set (great VR set, BTW) that has the same big field of view as the Gear VR. The Note 4 looks ugly in comparison to the Pure for VR content. Chalk up a BIG win for the Pure display in this regard.

    I had a concern with chargers besides the one in the box being slow, but found a few that work fine. I have no desire to use the fast charger much due to the heat. IMO the Pure gets too warm.

    Also had a BIG concern with the stock Android nav bar taking up display space in some apps, but there is an app for 99 cents called "Fulscrn" that fixed that for my needs.

    Of course, like any "love" there can be catches and my only apparent issue now is battery life, but will take several more days to know that. Frankly, as good as the Pure has been, it would have to be pretty bad battery life for me to return this.

    Note: The reviews say there are no EQ adjustments, but that is incorrect. There are stock adjustment options for the headphone jack and the speakers.

    Also, 200gb SD card formatted exfat works fine.

    So far, the Moto X Pure 2015 rocks real hard!
    09-20-2015 11:22 AM
  6. popartist's Avatar
    So after a few days with the phone, I am really liking it! I think it's a keeper. I had the most trepidations about the camera but thankfully those fears have been allayed - it is fine for me, and better than what I was getting on my M8. I am actually liking the controls on it, especially the one for adjusting light that I just found yesterday, swiping a finger around is very easy. Low light photos seem fine to me, not bad at all. I would describe the camera as having a very natural and true color and light profile. I am also quite pleased with the video, I go to concerts a lot and the sound on the short clips (done in 1080) are far superior to my M8. Also the sound is quite fine playing music back with headphones, and the speakers equal the M8 ones. General phone functioning is very smooth, no complaints there. I like the Active Notifications on the Moto. Screen is looking quite vibrant to me. Build quality is very solid and not cheap looking or feeling at all. The size of the phone is taking some adjusting on my part, it is a big girl and I am a small one with small hands, but it is not a deal breaker for me. Also, the battery life is decent - i.e it will last me until the end of the day with some to spare (with Bluetooth on and a Moto 360 watch paired with it) and without a top up 95% of the time, and idle time is excellent, uses hardly any battery at all. In all, I am SO glad I went with this phone - excellent phone that can compete with the flagships at $200 less...one of the best values out there!
    09-20-2015 11:58 AM
  7. BoneDigger's Avatar
    Glad to hear it! Mine arrives Tuesday. I am currently using a Note 2.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
    09-20-2015 12:03 PM
  8. rushmore's Avatar
    Glad to hear it! Mine arrives Tuesday. I am currently using a Note 2.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
    Overall I find the Pure display better than the Note 4. A key reason being the much better image quality with VR movies. For that alone I will trade off the deeper blacks of the Note 4. No more screen door pentile dots with VR

    Note 4 display looks amazing until you zoom it up with VR.
    09-20-2015 01:46 PM
  9. diesel97's Avatar
    Overall I find the Pure display better than the Note 4. A key reason being the much better image quality with VR movies. For that alone I will trade off the deeper blacks of the Note 4. No more screen door pentile dots with VR

    Note 4 display looks amazing until you zoom it up with VR.

    (but I wish you could adjust app drawer, messages and setting background to something besides white). White is not battery friendly.
    I not sure if this is what you mean but you go into settings >Accessibility> Color inversion >on
    09-20-2015 02:43 PM
  10. rushmore's Avatar
    I not sure if this is what you mean but you go into settings >Accessibility> Color inversion >on
    If that setting just did it for drawers, messages and settings, it would be perfect, but does it for everything. Very Pink Floyd
    09-20-2015 03:00 PM
  11. MRS DIVA's Avatar
    Glad to hear it! Mine arrives Tuesday. I am currently using a Note 2.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk
    As a fellow Note 2 user, I'm really eager to see if you like this device.
    09-20-2015 03:24 PM
  12. MTeator's Avatar
    White or any other color doesn't affect the battery on an LCD screen. The whole screen is always lit.
    09-20-2015 03:30 PM
  13. alexisv635's Avatar
    So after a few days with the phone, I am really liking it! I think it's a keeper. I had the most trepidations about the camera but thankfully those fears have been allayed - it is fine for me, and better than what I was getting on my M8. I am actually liking the controls on it, especially the one for adjusting light that I just found yesterday, swiping a finger around is very easy. Low light photos seem fine to me, not bad at all. I would describe the camera as having a very natural and true color and light profile. I am also quite pleased with the video, I go to concerts a lot and the sound on the short clips (done in 1080) are far superior to my M8. Also the sound is quite fine playing music back with headphones, and the speakers equal the M8 ones. General phone functioning is very smooth, no complaints there. I like the Active Notifications on the Moto. Screen is looking quite vibrant to me. Build quality is very solid and not cheap looking or feeling at all. The size of the phone is taking some adjusting on my part, it is a big girl and I am a small one with small hands, but it is not a deal breaker for me. Also, the battery life is decent - i.e it will last me until the end of the day with some to spare (with Bluetooth on and a Moto 360 watch paired with it) and without a top up 95% of the time, and idle time is excellent, uses hardly any battery at all. In all, I am SO glad I went with this phone - excellent phone that can compete with the flagships at $200 less...one of the best values out there!
    Finally someone with the experience of the One M8 and X Pure, it's my next phone for sure, after I sell M8 this big beast will fall in my hands 😊
    09-20-2015 03:36 PM
  14. rushmore's Avatar
    White or any other color doesn't affect the battery on an LCD screen. The whole screen is always lit.
    Correct for the older substrates and pixel arrays designs, but IPS uses more power with brighter colors (hence more color pop than non IPS LCD). The back panel lighting though is the main user for LCD, regardless of color and white is not the big killer like OLED tech. That said, still not sure what the display is here and looking forward to DisplayMate's review.

    From a weighted standpoint though, is white really that much weight to affect anything, if the panel back lighting is most of it?
    09-20-2015 03:37 PM
  15. linuxmel's Avatar
    I received mine from Amazon a few minutes ago. It comes in a very nice box. Ships with a turbocharger. It's a little heavier than I thought it would be. I really like the size and weight, it definitely feels premium. I will give more impressions a bit later. The white with Bamboo looks great imo.
    They are currently sold out 😬glad you got yous ☺

    Posted via the Android Central App
    09-20-2015 04:27 PM
  16. JJ008's Avatar
    I have only had my Pure two days, but here are main points: 64GB black/black grippy with gray accents. Verizon carrier.

    The feel is just as slim as the Note 5, minus the slippery glass back.

    Display is great and no yellow tint and not seeing angle issues some mentioned. Mine is set to fixed 20% brightness and equals 40% setting I used on the Note 4.

    No heat issues so far.

    Sound quality from headphone jack is great and ditto relatively speaking for the stereo speakers. They get nuts loud and have clarity (I use Poweramp that has an amp adjustment to boost the volume since stock headphone output is low). Note: Be careful with adjusting the amp up and using the speakers!

    Build is PREMIUM, and feels better than the highly touted Note 5.

    UI is fast and bloat free (but I wish you could adjust app drawer, messages and setting background to something besides white). White is not battery friendly.

    The bumper I thought I would leave in the box is better than expected. It protects the device and provides a holding area for gaming, since the bezels are thin.

    Signal reception for cell and wifi is very solid and appears a step up from the Note 4.

    Games play fast and CPU hungry emulators like MAME and PSP plays smoother than the Note 4 with 805.

    Watching VR movies with the Pure is FANTASTIC. None of the screen door issues from the pentile displayed Note 4. I have a FreeFly VR set (great VR set, BTW) that has the same big field of view as the Gear VR. The Note 4 looks ugly in comparison to the Pure for VR content. Chalk up a BIG win for the Pure display in this regard.

    I had a concern with chargers besides the one in the box being slow, but found a few that work fine. I have no desire to use the fast charger much due to the heat. IMO the Pure gets too warm.

    Also had a BIG concern with the stock Android nav bar taking up display space in some apps, but there is an app for 99 cents called "Fulscrn" that fixed that for my needs.

    Of course, like any "love" there can be catches and my only apparent issue now is battery life, but will take several more days to know that. Frankly, as good as the Pure has been, it would have to be pretty bad battery life for me to return this.

    Note: The reviews say there are no EQ adjustments, but that is incorrect. There are stock adjustment options for the headphone jack and the speakers.

    Also, 200gb SD card formatted exfat works fine.

    So far, the Moto X Pure 2015 rocks real hard!
    Could you possibly show your setup that you have on poweramp for the Moto X?
    09-20-2015 05:14 PM
  17. rushmore's Avatar
    Could you possibly show your setup that you have on poweramp for the Moto X?
    EQ enabled in V shape

    Tone disabled

    Amp three quarters up. Had higher, but what is good for headphone jack is too loud for speakers.

    That is pretty much it
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    09-20-2015 05:49 PM
  18. Ntchwaidumela's Avatar
    It has the bumper case with it. I actually like the case.

    Thing gets warm though.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    I like it, but removed it because the turbocharger is the only cable that will fit with the bumper on. The opening is too narrow for other cables, and the turbocharger cable doesn't detach from the wall plug.

    BTW, I have a clear case ordered from Amazon. So that should work, too.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    09-20-2015 09:54 PM
  19. Unobtanium's Avatar
    I like it, but removed it because the turbocharger is the only cable that will fit with the bumper on. The opening is too narrow for other cables, and the turbocharger cable doesn't detach from the wall plug.
    FWIW, The opening in the Incipio DualPro is large enough for the Turbo plug
    Ntchwaidumela likes this.
    09-21-2015 05:21 AM
  20. bpe4's Avatar

    So far, the Moto X Pure 2015 rocks real hard!
    Rushmore, looks like you might barely make it to the Nexus 6 announcement right when your 14-day return period is about up. Anyone on the fence about their device should keep that in mind. They say pre-orders start on Sept 29th with delivery in mid-Oct.

    So far the latest/greatest spec rumors:
    5.7-inch 2560 x 1440 Quad-HD Display
    8-core Snapdragon 810 processor with 3 or 4GB of RAM
    32 & 64GB storage configurations
    Android 6.0 Marshmallow
    21 Megapixel rear and 8mp front camera setup, laser autofocus, dual-LED flash
    3,500 mAh battery
    Aluminum Design
    Dual Front Facing Speakers
    Fingerprint Scanner
    USB Type-C Port

    As you see above, the specs above are a significant improvement in features over the X. And you're guaranteed the fastest software updates without carrier intervention.

    All this, for I'd guess would be $150 more. $449 Moto X with 32GB versus $599 for 32gb Nexus 6. There's no point in even mentioning the 16gb Moto price as that model should never have been an option.
    09-21-2015 07:59 AM
  21. VoltaicShock's Avatar
    Rushmore, looks like you might barely make it to the Nexus 6 announcement right when your 14-day return period is about up. Anyone on the fence about their device should keep that in mind. They say pre-orders start on Sept 29th with delivery in mid-Oct.

    So far the latest/greatest spec rumors:
    5.7-inch 2560 x 1440 Quad-HD Display
    8-core Snapdragon 810 processor with 3 or 4GB of RAM
    32 & 64GB storage configurations
    Android 6.0 Marshmallow
    21 Megapixel rear and 8mp front camera setup, laser autofocus, dual-LED flash
    3,500 mAh battery
    Aluminum Design
    Dual Front Facing Speakers
    Fingerprint Scanner
    USB Type-C Port

    As you see above, the specs above are a significant improvement in features over the X. And you're guaranteed the fastest software updates without carrier intervention.

    All this, for I'd guess would be $150 more. $449 Moto X with 32GB versus $599 for 32gb Nexus 6. There's no point in even mentioning the 16gb Moto price as that model should never have been an option.
    I thought it was a 5.5 screen and not 5.7 for the new Nexus 6?

    NM: Just saw the new information that was released.
    09-21-2015 08:10 AM
  22. greg5524's Avatar
    There's no point in even mentioning the 16gb Moto price as that model should never have been an option.
    I've seen that type of comment here and there. I've had a 16gb Note 2 for 2.5 years and I've never deleted anything for space issues. I have what I consider to be a lot of apps (+ bloat). What am I doing wrong?

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    09-21-2015 08:26 AM
  23. bpe4's Avatar
    I've seen that type of comment here and there. I've had a 16gb Note 2 for 2.5 years and I've never deleted anything for space issues. I have what I consider to be a lot of apps (+ bloat). What am I doing wrong?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    For those that use the standard apps and many apps that fit within the 10MB to 50MB range, it should be fine. But if you install any amount of games on your phone, you'd realize that developers are stretching the boundaries from 300MB to 2-3GB per game, with only a portion of it movable to the SD card. So if you install a handful of games of this type, you'd be done on a 16GB phone. It'll only get worse as time goes by. Even the smaller apps are getting larger with every new update.
    09-21-2015 08:33 AM
  24. greg5524's Avatar
    Thanks. I don't have any big games. I'm still on the fence about 16 or 32. I'm leaning toward 32 because as you say everything seems to get bigger over time. Including, I assume, marshmallow vs lollipop/kitkat?

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    09-21-2015 08:39 AM
  25. benjamminh's Avatar
    I'm willing to bet the new nexus camera won't be as good as the Pure even with OIS. I don't consider the 810 an advantage over the 808. It will be interesting to see how the screens compare. Battery life will likely be better for the nexus with a bigger battery. Nexus will get the fastest updates. Moto has a few nice enhancements. It just depends on what matters to you.
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    09-21-2015 09:08 AM
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