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  1. MikeLip's Avatar
    Just got mine Wednesday. My take;

    In general, the Moto X Pure is just another Android phone. The installation of Android is cleaner than most, but there are still some items I really wish I could just dump. I have fewer than usual items disabled but there are still some – their photo service (Picasa), and their office apps like Sheets, Docs, Slides and stuff like Translate. How many of us actually use office functions on their phones? And why can't I get rid of it? I will never, ever use it. I’m willing to bet perhaps 5% of us will, at most. Just let us download that from Play and keep it off my phone if I don’t want it. I’d really like to have that storage back. If I want to write down something I generally use Onenote which, for a phone, makes a lot more sense. The phone DOESN’T have a file manager, which annoys me. But I’m one of the few that cares about that so I’ll just go download one. I wish Moto would refrain from putting their email app on board. Heck, I wish Gmail wasn’t onboard. I can do without either. I do use Gmail, but I don’t use Googles app to get it. It’s much too clunky.
    Size and grip are acceptable. I don’t know why blogs keep going on about how the rubberish back aids grip. It does not. You don’t grip the back. You grip the sides, people! And the sides are abruptly edged metal. It’s not awful, but comfortable it is not. The back makes zero difference. It could be made from jello and it wouldn’t matter. However the phone does jam a lot of screen in a small form factor (relatively). It’s about the same screen size as my Note 4, but the body is nicely smaller. I appreciate that. But I will be putting a TPU case on it just for comfort in use.
    One thing I hate. Hate hate hate Hate HATE. The new Google dialer purely sucks. Sucks the inflow to a sewage treatment plant. I want a keypad when I start it. I don’t want blinding bright colors and no way to fix it. What the heck, Google? Ever hear of dark themes? Give me the option. I don’t want material in your face design. Motorola had a beautiful, subdued, professional looking phone app. Put it BACK. Can I download another? Yup. Does that fix it? Not all of it. You have to go back to this one for voicemail and etc. It. Just. TICKS ME OFF. Ugh.
    OK, sorry. I’m back now. Freaking Google. Screw material design. What were you smoking?
    Battery
    Much has been made of the inadequate battery. Yeah OK. It’s not a Maxx. But it’s fine. The battery lasts at least as well as my S6 – at the end of a workday battery is at 75%, which is about exactly where the S6 leaves off. The Note 4 as well. So unlike the previous Moto X which blew through it’s piddly little battery like the Steelers through the Browns defensive line (seriously – the 2014 Moto X battery was pathetic. Awesome phone made nearly unusable by the battery) I can easily get through a day. That’s me. I’m not a heavy user. But I do read at lunchtime, text through the day and check Facebook (using a browser – I will not use their app.) Point is, it’s on a par with other phones. If you have problems getting through a day with the S6, you will with this phone also. I don’t. So thanks for at least getting us to battery parity, Moto! It’s about time. I just wish there was a Maxx version of this phone. At this point if I want great battery I go to Blackberry. There is nothing better than a Z30 or Passport for battery. I can go days, easily, with a Passport. This one I might go 24 hours before I’m getting itchy for a charge. The phone won’t be flat, but it will be close. But I’m used to that, so it’s OK.

    Screen
    Yeah, OK. It’s LCD. It’s not super mega awesome in your face like the S6 or Note 4. Icons don’t seem to float off the screen. But in some ways it’s better. Viewing angles for example are much better. Ever notice how if you tilt your amoled display you get color shifts? Doesn’t happen with LCD. Colors are not as intense as they are with Samsungs displays. But that’s fine. The colors are real, not cartoon-y. Resolution is insane. I like it. I was on the fence with buying this until I noticed it had an LCD display. Then I was sold.
    Sound
    OK, let it be said – this phones sound is phenomenal. Better than an M8. The speakers are loud and very clear. Music comes through nicely. Speakerphone sounds like a desktop unit. Phone calls are crystal clear. I have never had a phone serve me better in terms of sound. Earpiece sound is also excellent. Motorola did a great thing here. I used to consider Blackberry Passport the call and speakerphone king. This phone juuuuuuust edges it out. A lot is made of the M8/M9 sound. To my ear they are, well, acceptable. They sound like a 1970s transistor radio. So yeah, the Pure does somewhat better. So while it’s not a nice stereo sound system, for casual listening, hearing phone calls, using the phone as a GPS system etc, it’s excellent.
    Camera
    The camera, for most general daytime photography is fine. It comes up reasonably quickly and gets the job done. Face it people. If you are a serious photographer, get a real camera. But for general snaps a phone cam is adequate. Often more than adequate. That’s where this phone is and I am perfectly satisfied. Does it match up to the S6 and Note 4 cams? Not quite. The blogs love to say how wonderful Brand X phone is and how Brand Y doesn’t match it but really – they are picking nits. Making mountains from molehills. They post a picture, say how noisy it is and you know what? There really isn’t a huge difference. Is there some sensor noise? Yes. Does it make the pic awful? No. Neither pic is a work of art. But do the cameras match a good SLR? Hell no. Not even close. So this is comparing midrange imaging at best. I haven’t met a cell phone that meets my standards and yes I’ve used iPhones. They are all, every one, just adequate. Nothing exciting. This phone cam will serve you just fine almost all the time. If you are going to be taking critical pictures, get real. Get a real camera.
    Notifications
    As always, the kerfuffle about the display having to come on to light up the ambient display Moto uses for notifications is overblown. Yes, the entire screen lights, dimly. You get a darkish grey color instead of the pure dark of an LED display. No, it doesn’t hurt battery. Yes, it’s a little brighter. No, it’s not going to burn your retina out at 2AM. I’d really prefer an LED notifier, but we are stuck with this. I can deal with it. It doesn’t really convey more useful information than an LED and to me it’s not as elegant. But people seem to like it and it serves the purpose
    Other
    I’m not sure what else there is. Performance is up there with S6 and Note 4. No stutter, apps load fast. I did notice data speeds are faster than I am used to, but that may be a function of signal at the time. I’ll have to look into that. Radio seems fine. Moto has been traditionally considered the radio champ, but that doesn’t consider Blackberry which, frankly, beats Motorola hollow. Places I get no signal with Moto, Samsung, HTC, Nokia I do fine with BB. Build quality is fine. I know there is a lot made of OMG – it’s all METAL and GLASS! Pretty shiny!!!! But really, what difference does it make? This is not an heirloom. It’s disposable technology. In two years you are going to trash it anyway. I’d prefer plastic for weight and durability. And glass backs? Whose idea was that? Come on, Samsung. I’d like to set down my phone without having it skate off every slightly sloped surface. Yeah it looks cool. Guess what? I put it in a cheap TPU case to KEEP IT FROM SLIDING. Thank you Motorola for putting a rubberized backing on your phones. But it’s still getting a case since the edges are the in-vogue but uncomfortable metal. Take a hint from the new Microsoft phones. Rounded edges, all plastic. Light and comfortable.
    So the summary? Moto finally got it mostly right. There are a few problems, but the perfect phone doesn’t exist. This is an excellent phone – right up there with the best of the flagships for way less money. It’s too big, but all phones are too big in my opinion. The old Motorola Razr HD was about right. It’s good at what it does. Go ahead and get it.
    09-25-2015 05:17 PM
  2. krazyatom's Avatar
    Good honest review.

    Sent from my Passport using Tapatalk
    09-25-2015 05:50 PM
  3. anon(427874)'s Avatar
    Yes, this is really helpful information and experience. Thank you.

    Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
    09-25-2015 06:40 PM
  4. BoneDigger's Avatar
    Good review. I too love the speakers.

    Sent from a cell phone. Sorry for any typos.
    09-25-2015 07:59 PM
  5. AustinTech's Avatar
    I found this review helpful. And kinda funny. In a weird roller coaster of emotions way. I had no idea where you were going to go with any particular point. And the references to Blackberry made me feel like I might be reading a review from 2009. I'm going to go off somewhere and think about my life now.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    09-25-2015 08:51 PM
  6. MobileNick's Avatar
    Very good and entertaining review I'm glad you mentioned the difference between grippy back and grippy side. I feel the same way - it doesn't matter much about the backs but why don't phone makers put rubber inserts into the sides?
    09-26-2015 01:27 PM
  7. VoltaicShock's Avatar
    Nice Review!

    Honestly I would return it if it doesn't line up on the back like it should and ask for a replacement.
    09-26-2015 06:02 PM
  8. MoPhoMan's Avatar
    Love the review... Thanks. I too don't understand why people say the rubber back is grippy. It feels like plastic. I'm hoping my leather feels better.

    I did find the comment about the need to add a file manager and criticizing adding an email client as odd.
    09-26-2015 06:21 PM
  9. bhatech's Avatar
    Wow you do seem to hate Google.
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    09-26-2015 06:46 PM
  10. anon(19981)'s Avatar
    Really good review.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    09-26-2015 08:42 PM
  11. rushmore's Avatar
    I am beginning to wonder how pertinent reviews are now without at least a week of use. My review was was more favorable several days ago and after a week I am seeing how hot the device runs for the use I intended it to be a part of. 3D games run hot after twenty minutes and VR content runs critical hot (120 degrees) with an insane 50% battery use after 30 minutes. No such issues with the Note 4 and it's 805.

    I think the 808 (as is) is a bad chip for anything beyond light to medium use and the LCD does not help. Battery life for my normal medium to high use is two hours better with the Note 4 and three hours better with lighter use. Video streaming playback is four hours better. Sadly not an exaggeration.

    If you are a light to medium user, the Pure is IMO a very good device. I would gladly exchange the home button on the Note 4 for the two great stereo speakers on the Pure. I'm also going to miss having twice the internal storage, but no point in it if battery life is weak and the device runs hot playing the games I loaded up- VR was a disaster. The next Pure needs to bring OLED tech back and next time use a chipset that does not run crazy hot. IMO, the GPU is bad news on the 808 and the G4 correlates, since has the same issues.

    Added: Motorola needs to add an option to throttle the GPU. The CPU is not the problem, since runs heavy games like Dead or Alive + in MAME and PSP games smooth (better than the 805) and just gets warm. Where the 808 goes battery and heat rogue is with heavier GPU tasks- just like the G4.

    I still try to rationalize keeping it, since the device rocks when not heavy 3D gaming.
    Well, the battery life does not rock, but everything else IMO does.
    MikeLip likes this.
    09-26-2015 11:03 PM
  12. MRS DIVA's Avatar
    Very good video, looking forward to hearing your views on the camera. I'm glad to see the speakers are loud and clear.

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    09-27-2015 02:42 AM
  13. andy a's Avatar
    That is a great review as I am still unsure about getting this phone but your review has really helped me so thanks a lot for that.

    Can you tell me where I can get that Llama wallpaper please?

    Andy
    09-27-2015 06:07 AM
  14. The Harrington's Avatar
    Great job. Looking forward to Part 2 and beyond.
    09-27-2015 10:48 AM
  15. Lefty Drummer's Avatar
    Nicely done, enjoyed it.
    09-27-2015 11:09 AM
  16. Rickosw's Avatar
    hi,

    love your unboxing, finally someone just KILLED it !!! - 40 sec is all you need ... Nice one

    for the part 2 of your review do you mind if you could give some comments on

    1) bluetooth aptX ... how does it sound - bluetooth headphones, speakers

    2) GPS signal - for maps (eg Nokia Here Maps - offline, Google Map)

    3) Can MXPE work in other european country (Itay, France, Asia)

    4) how about the power plug - safe to use overseas - different voltage ?

    thanks & lookin forward to your next video

    cheers
    09-27-2015 11:49 AM
  17. MikeLip's Avatar
    I found this review helpful. And kinda funny. In a weird roller coaster of emotions way. I had no idea where you were going to go with any particular point. And the references to Blackberry made me feel like I might be reading a review from 2009. I'm going to go off somewhere and think about my life now.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    If you never used a Blackberry, you need to rethink all your lifes decisions We are not as strident as a iPhone fan. Our blood runs deeper, but no less hot :P
    09-27-2015 12:59 PM
  18. MikeLip's Avatar
    I am beginning to wonder how pertinent reviews are now without at least a week of use. My review was was more favorable several days ago and after a week I am seeing how hot the device runs for the use I intended it to be a part of. 3D games run hot after twenty minutes and VR content runs critical hot (120 degrees) with an insane 50% battery use after 30 minutes. No such issues with the Note 4 and it's 805.

    I think the 808 (as is) is a bad chip for anything beyond light to medium use and the LCD does not help. Battery life for my normal medium to high use is two hours better with the Note 4 and three hours better with lighter use. Video streaming playback is four hours better. Sadly not an exaggeration.

    If you are a light to medium user, the Pure is IMO a very good device. I would gladly exchange the home button on the Note 4 for the two great stereo speakers on the Pure. I'm also going to miss having twice the internal storage, but no point in it if battery life is weak and the device runs hot playing the games I loaded up- VR was a disaster. The next Pure needs to bring OLED tech back and next time use a chipset that does not run crazy hot. IMO, the GPU is bad news on the 808 and the G4 correlates, since has the same issues.

    Added: Motorola needs to add an option to throttle the GPU. The CPU is not the problem, since runs heavy games like Dead or Alive + in MAME and PSP games smooth (better than the 805) and just gets warm. Where the 808 goes battery and heat rogue is with heavier GPU tasks- just like the G4.

    I still try to rationalize keeping it, since the device rocks when not heavy 3D gaming.
    Well, the battery life does not rock, but everything else IMO does.
    I do like the home button. I don't like essential controls that disappear depending on mode. And popping up Google Now with a long press of the button is really convenient. I don't like the addition of required phone body real estate, but I guess everything is a tradeoff. I don't find throttling to be an issue, but then I don't game. I do think the way Moto handles tasks is OK. I guess light to medium defines me pretty well. I've had the phone a bit over a week now and nothing has really changed in my evaluation. It still needs a case to be comfortable to use, but that's hopefully going to be fixed soon since I found a $5 case on eBay. We will see.

    Does the Note 4 do VR well? I want to try it.
    09-27-2015 01:04 PM
  19. MikeLip's Avatar
    The title of this thread should actually be, "A post in which I speak emotionally about my experience with a Moto X Pure edition, hate on all things Google, and misuse punctuation."
    Thanks.
    I think you need to reread it without your emotional baggage. My evaluations are mine and if you don't like them, there are lots of other reviews out there. Reviews are always personal. Go look at BGR and their loveletters to iPhone in basically everything they write. Google does some stuff right, and some stuff very wrong. In my opinion. You don't need to agree with it.
    Oh yeah. Punctuation critics can take a long walk off a short pier. Life is too short.
    09-27-2015 01:07 PM
  20. MikeLip's Avatar
    Wow you do seem to hate Google.
    No. Google is just a machine, the purpose of which is to make money. To that end they will pander to the widest audience. I like some stuff they are doing (google now, voice recognition are two examples). I dislike some others (material design is a bugger for me, and their increasingly intrusive advertising is a BIG one). Their tech is great. Their application of it needs to be more closely examined, preferably by a congressional hearing and possibly an ethics committee. I use them because what they make works. Their app ecosystem is in many ways better than Apples. But their business model is sometimes really scary. Don't be evil went by the wayside long ago. So I'm not going to be blind to their failings, but I will use their software when I have to. I just often wish they were a little more the human company they claimed to be. Right now I find Blackberry to be somewhat less overtly bloody minded, although I know they are in a retrenching mode and that will change.

    And as an aside, the same criticisms apply to Apple. Both are machines for making money. The end game for both is to totally control the market so they can do as they please. Apple is maybe slightly more focused than Google, but I will bet lunch that in a few years you will be hard put to tell the difference between them. Their goals are one and the same.

    I guess I do have to say this - judging my attitudes by my review is not very smart. You don''t know me or my attitudes and making a sweeping statement like that is, well, again, not very smart. You could be more polite and simply ask what I thought of Google and I'd be happy to engage in that kind of civil discussion. I am aware that manners have pretty much gone out the window in discussion groups, but that doesn't mean I have to put up with it.. So why not just go away of you don't like what I wrote?
    09-27-2015 01:23 PM
  21. MikeLip's Avatar
    I found this review helpful. And kinda funny. In a weird roller coaster of emotions way. I had no idea where you were going to go with any particular point. And the references to Blackberry made me feel like I might be reading a review from 2009. I'm going to go off somewhere and think about my life now.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    And oh yeah - I had no particular point. I was just talking about what I liked, what I didn't, why I did and did not. It's fun for me to play with new toys and talk about them. I just wish there was more variety in phones. They are commodity items now. Not a lot of fun. That new Robin sounds genuinely interesting in some ways.
    I guess that's one reason I'm annoyed Blackberry is doing Android. There is then so little to talk about. I wish they'd stick with OS10 which is far better at some things than any other OS, and is different. But I understand they also need to make money and they are hoping they can make an Android phone different enough to distinguish themselves. Here's hoping.
    09-27-2015 03:19 PM
  22. MTeator's Avatar
    Interesting about the speakers being better than a M8. The speakers on my M7 will be missed, they were significantly better than the MXPE.

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    09-27-2015 03:51 PM
  23. MikeLip's Avatar
    The M7 was nearly a perfect phone. Size was right, great screen, good speakers. My problem though with HTC speakers is using the phone as a phone with hearing aids. I don't know what the deal is, but on every other phone I can get the speaker lined up with my hearing aid microphone so that it's nice and loud. None of the HTC phones can do that. There is something about the earpiece that I haven't figured out. But for general use, the only thing the M7 needed was a bigger battery. Otherwise it's an awesome phone. Even now it's enough for for most of us.
    09-27-2015 04:21 PM
  24. MTeator's Avatar
    Well, the battery on my M7 lasted a good bit longer than the MXPE does, even at over 2.5 years old. Honestly the only reason I got off it was the camera (mine went purple) and cellular reception.
    09-27-2015 04:53 PM
  25. Star-Lord's Avatar
    Short yet you covered several things in detail. I have to say I think that has to be the best unboxing/review I've watched so far and I've watched quite a few. I have to say, I chuckled when you were unboxing and just chunking the items to the side.

    I hope you make more videos.

    If you don't mind me asking what kind of knife was that?
    09-27-2015 06:20 PM
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