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  1. codeda's Avatar
    A true notification means the phone alerts you -- you can be concentrating on something else and it does something to get your attention, even from across the room. What you're describing is an active query -- you have to be near the phone and perform some action to see if something happened. If you don't perform that action, you won't know anything happened. It's like an alarm clock with no alarm: the only way to know if it's time to wake up is to be awake and look at the time.

    And you are turning on the screen. Even if most of the pixels are black, the backlight still comes on and consumes power.

    -- Rob
    It consumes hardly any power. Went a couple days with notifications on just to try and then a few days with the Moto display stuff off and I didn't see any noticeable difference in battery. I think people are annoyed with the non amoled thing, but I honestly couldn't tell the difference in battery through the four days. Of course more options for people that like LED would be nice, I always turn it off though.


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    09-18-2015 10:42 PM
  2. rushmore's Avatar
    I like LED and still a common feature for every other device I can think of. Per Moto, they created active due to the battery efficiency and ability to localize what part of the display is on with OLED. Seems the premise has been compromised with LCD. I have zero desire to use any of the sensors and intend to use like the Note 4 (I turned all the sensor bling off it too).

    Need the Pure to last all day like my N4, or it goes back. I want the device for calls, texts, web, games, media, convenience photos and perhaps VR content. Key lures were the speakers, lack of bloat and twice the storage of the Note 4 with sd slot.

    I appreciate others like the Moto stuff, but I see the stuff as battery using stuff I won't use. I understand though 100% why most like the features.
    09-18-2015 10:46 PM
  3. globster2000's Avatar
    So far i love this phone except the screen where u toggle between windows. It isnt as smooth as the rest of android, but it isnt annoying. The speakers and charger are stupid awesome. Oh ya, low light pics are grainy.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    09-18-2015 11:43 PM
  4. bimbert84's Avatar
    The active display is part of the phone and complaining about it is like complaining that Samsung still uses a physical button on the front of their phones. If you don't like it, buy something else.
    That's where I'm going with this. I wasn't aware of the no LED issue until I read this thread, and it's a deal killer for me. I don't want to have to continually check my phone to see if I've received a text, I want the phone to tell me -- that's the entire point of notifications: to be NOTIFIED.

    -- Rob
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    09-19-2015 06:11 AM
  5. bimbert84's Avatar
    It does not do raw format. I don't get this love of LEDs but active display has been a signature feature for now the last three moto x's so I don't know why it's such a surprise it doesn't have LED notifications
    Because with the LED you don't have to actively check for incoming messages. Let's say you're expecting an important message. Without the LED, you have to sit by your phone waving your hand across it. With the LED, you're free to set the phone down and go about other business. When the message shows up, the LED flashes, and you know to stop what you're doing and go check the phone. It's the visual form of a ring tone.

    This is surprising to me because being notified is fundamental to using any communication device. Every modern OS has notifications built in. But this hardware suppresses them -- instead of being notified, you have to "check your messages."

    I wasn't aware of this on earlier Moto Xs because I wasn't in the market for a phone then. But I am now, and the lack of an external notification (i.e. LED) takes the Moto X out the running for me.

    -- Rob
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    09-19-2015 06:28 AM
  6. rushmore's Avatar
    That's where I'm going with this. I wasn't aware of the no LED issue until I read this thread, and it's a deal killer for me. I don't want to have to continually check my phone to see if I've received a text, I want the phone to tell me -- that's the entire point of notifications: to be NOTIFIED.

    -- Rob
    That seems the point being missed here. The tech worked okay with OLED and the areas with notifications lit, but is not resource practical with LCD. Seems kind of battery dumb not to offer LED as an option for those that do not want the entire display powered on for notifications, or having to "wash on, wash off" to check if they have any.

    Again, Motorola is who pointed out the whole reason for the idea was the power efficiency of OLED displays and the ability to only power the areas with notifications. That premise is busted with LCD. Not seeing how folks are not appreciating the option should at least be in the settings. Especially since the LED exists on the device already.

    This is a waste of battery life with LCD, so the option to use it or not should be at the settings option discretion of the user. If you want to use it, great- if not, LED great too.
    09-19-2015 08:12 AM
  7. ursa08's Avatar
    For me:
    1. Battery life
    2. Can not close all open tabs at same time
    Why?

    I had OPO before...
    09-19-2015 09:53 AM
  8. WP7Nettwerk's Avatar
    2. Stock Android doesn't this. OPO has CM or other modified Android OS. Thats is why you think it doesn't and other does.

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    09-19-2015 10:12 AM
  9. bimbert84's Avatar
    This is a waste of battery life with LCD, so the option to use it or not should be at the settings option discretion of the user. If you want to use it, great- if not, LED great too.
    Although I agree about the extra power consumption, that's not the primary issue for me. It's the fact that I have to check repeatedly to see if a message MAY have arrived rather than being alerted when one HAS arrived.

    I suppose if you spend all day with your phone in your hand it's not such a big deal. But I typically set it down nearby while I do other things, and the idea of having to stop what I'm doing to walk over and physically check the phone is an unacceptable waste of time, especially when a quick glance at an LED would do the trick.
    09-19-2015 10:58 AM
  10. captainkirkw's Avatar
    I installed Swiftkey and customized it to show the numbers across the top and also enabled Voice Input key but do not see it on my keyboard. I wish we could have just customized the stock keyboard.
    09-19-2015 11:01 AM
  11. diesel97's Avatar
    Although I agree about the extra power consumption, that's not the primary issue for me. It's the fact that I have to check repeatedly to see if a message MAY have arrived rather than being alerted when one HAS arrived.

    I suppose if you spend all day with your phone in your hand it's not such a big deal. But I typically set it down nearby while I do other things, and the idea of having to stop what I'm doing to walk over and physically check the phone is an unacceptable waste of time, especially when a quick glance at an LED would do the trick.
    Why dont you assign a ring tone or vibrate for a alert , different tone for different apps is the same as different color for alerts
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    09-19-2015 11:08 AM
  12. bimbert84's Avatar
    Why dont you assign a ring tone or vibrate for a alert , different tone for different apps is the same as different color for alerts
    Because sounds are disruptive to others. This might work when I'm by myself, but it wouldn't work in a meeting, for example. Seriously, an LED is a simple solution that works incredibly well. I'm not suggesting they eliminate the Moto Display, but why not allow both? The LED lights up, which tells me I'll find something if I wave my hand.
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    09-19-2015 02:57 PM
  13. Rogue Tomato's Avatar
    1. No fingerprint sensor
    2. No built-in wireless charging
    3. Not AMOLED (LCD)
    4. No LED notification (is this really true? seems crazy to me)

    But having a selfie flash makes up for everything, right?
    bmidd and GeordieAffy like this.
    09-19-2015 03:11 PM
  14. recDNA's Avatar
    1. No fingerprint sensor
    2. No built-in wireless charging
    3. Not AMOLED (LCD)
    4. No LED notification (is this really true? seems crazy to me)

    But having a selfie flash makes up for everything, right?
    Ya I think Moto dumped multicolor led after razr maxx hd. It was so nice on my OG Droid. Best led notifier ever. Not.too big like razr maxx hd and had many many discernably different colors. Even phones that have multicolor led notifiers now don't have as many colors.

    I also love wireless charging and agree ir blaster is nice.
    I also miss the fm radio on my og droid.
    09-19-2015 03:33 PM
  15. droid5's Avatar
    But "None" is different from silent. You actually don't get any notifications while it's set to None, but on silent you still get the notifications, it just doesn't make any sound. I miss silent mode so much I can't believe Google had the gall t9 take it out in lollipop.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Motorola could have added it like other manufactures.
    09-19-2015 03:50 PM
  16. Stanley Kubrick's Avatar
    I installed Swiftkey and customized it to show the numbers across the top and also enabled Voice Input key but do not see it on my keyboard. I wish we could have just customized the stock keyboard.
    It's immediately left of the space bar. Long hold the comma and it opens right up!
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    09-19-2015 04:12 PM
  17. Rogue Tomato's Avatar
    Ya I think Moto dumped multicolor led after razr maxx hd. It was so nice on my OG Droid. Best led notifier ever. Not.too big like razr maxx hd and had many many discernably different colors. Even phones that have multicolor led notifiers now don't have as many colors.

    I also love wireless charging and agree ir blaster is nice.
    I also miss the fm radio on my og droid.
    I also noticed in a video on another site that the viewing angles on this phone look pretty bad. If you don't have a notification LED and use wave-to-wake instead, your phone is flat and therefore at an angle. In the video that demonstrated this, the display at that angle is so dim, I almost thought his wave-to-wake didn't do anything at all. I had to look at it twice to see the really dim white thing in the center of the display, and it was so dim I still don't know what it was. Maybe an unlock icon.

    It's just a video, so I don't know if it's that bad in person.

    I really don't get leaving out the LED. What cost would it add to the phone? 5 cents?
    09-19-2015 05:21 PM
  18. eak1570's Avatar
    I absolutely love mine ..the only thing I don't like is not a lot of good case right now..
    09-19-2015 05:28 PM
  19. spazn4u's Avatar
    Mine actually interferes with my Laser/radar detector. First phone to do that. The radar detector is going anywhere so you know where the phone is going
    09-19-2015 05:36 PM
  20. Anthony_NE's Avatar
    I also noticed in a video on another site that the viewing angles on this phone look pretty bad. If you don't have a notification LED and use wave-to-wake instead, your phone is flat and therefore at an angle. In the video that demonstrated this, the display at that angle is so dim, I almost thought his wave-to-wake didn't do anything at all. I had to look at it twice to see the really dim white thing in the center of the display, and it was so dim I still don't know what it was. Maybe an unlock icon.

    It's just a video, so I don't know if it's that bad in person.

    I really don't get leaving out the LED. What cost would it add to the phone? 5 cents?
    It's just the video. The viewing angles are perfectly fine. This phone has an LED, you have to root to enable it.
    09-19-2015 06:37 PM
  21. Zivman's Avatar
    The size of the phone. It's just too big. I also don't care for the LCD display. The blacks and contrast are subpar. I'm coming from the original moto x and didn't buy the '14 x due to the size, so its no surprise the pure is a bit too much... But I won't buy a skinned Android and I have give up on nexus devices and needed a new phone so it is what it is

    Sent from my XT1058 using Tapatalk
    09-19-2015 06:56 PM
  22. kj11's Avatar
    Because sounds are disruptive to others. This might work when I'm by myself, but it wouldn't work in a meeting, for example. Seriously, an LED is a simple solution that works incredibly well. I'm not suggesting they eliminate the Moto Display, but why not allow both? The LED lights up, which tells me I'll find something if I wave my hand.
    Not the best example..... someone picking up their phone in a meeting to respond to whatever triggered the notification is worse than the notification tone, 99% of the time.
    Anthony_NE likes this.
    09-19-2015 08:25 PM
  23. kj11's Avatar
    Because with the LED you don't have to actively check for incoming messages. Let's say you're expecting an important message. Without the LED, you have to sit by your phone waving your hand across it. With the LED, you're free to set the phone down and go about other business. When the message shows up, the LED flashes, and you know to stop what you're doing and go check the phone. It's the visual form of a ring tone.

    This is surprising to me because being notified is fundamental to using any communication device. Every modern OS has notifications built in. But this hardware suppresses them -- instead of being notified, you have to "check your messages."

    I wasn't aware of this on earlier Moto Xs because I wasn't in the market for a phone then. But I am now, and the lack of an external notification (i.e. LED) takes the Moto X out the running for me.

    -- Rob
    Someone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but with Moto display doesn't the whole screen illuminate black, with clock and notification icon, and continue to "blink" on and off until you check the notification?
    09-19-2015 08:28 PM
  24. Ry's Avatar
    It's just the video. The viewing angles are perfectly fine. This phone has an LED, you have to root to enable it.
    Yup. Viewing angle is fine.
    09-19-2015 08:53 PM
  25. vinceboii's Avatar
    Today is the 3rd day now that I've had the PE, I think the only thing i dislike about the phone is the LED flash, its not as bright as my M8 lol only complaint seriously.
    09-19-2015 11:46 PM
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