09-28-2015 05:27 PM
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  1. YeahMon360's Avatar
    I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here.

    Does anyone consider that a fingerprint scanner is a privacy issue? I know they "say" that your prints are stored locally, and do you believe that 100%, or would you consider that they could go to a database somewhere, accessed by anyone who wants to know about you?

    No, I'm not a conspiracist, but a realist. This crap is made to look like a convenience to the user, when in actuality, it is another sucker way of getting you to relinquish that information without a second thought. If someone would walk up to you on the street and ask you to print yourself for them, would you do it? Hell no. So why would you trust that a cell phone, whom we all know isn't secure, to contain that information about you?

    I don't own a device that scans my prints. I am aware that my devices listen to what's going on around me, and I know that they track my every move - wherever I may roam. They tally my browsing habits, my shopping habits, etc etc ect. I get it that there is a trade-off between electronic convenience and security, but the fingerprint scanner seems like one method we just don't need to adapt to.
    09-17-2015 09:00 AM
  2. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    For me, having the feature is not a make or break. I am inclined to agree with you. I would pass on using the fingerprint scanner if one was built in.
    09-17-2015 09:03 AM
  3. dpham00's Avatar
    You can choose not to trust technology and live in the stone age. People use phones to access email, pay bills, order stuff, etc. There is no 100% guaranteed security when it comes to technology as anything can be hacked. Sure if you don't log into any accounts, don't buy anything, or send any personal information on the phone then you would be 100% safe...but that would be pointless for me.

    Also if someone really wanted to lift your fingerprint, they could follow you around and lift it from something you touched.

    Or the fingerprint could be hacked from the Government database....Unless you want to live completely off the grid of course.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 5
    09-17-2015 09:08 AM
  4. So Cold's Avatar
    I almost didn't get this phone because it lacked a finger print reader. Due to my exchange policy I have to have either a pin or password unlock and it gets old. Whether I'm trying to get directions quick or really anything with my phone it's an inconvenience and I would love a fingerprint scanner.

    I nearly went with the oneplus for the larger batter and fingerprint reader but when reviews were not stellar I decided to not give up NFC and go to the MXPE.

    For me personally I feel like it would be a great convenience and not just a cool techy look at what I can do thing.
    09-17-2015 09:09 AM
  5. YeahMon360's Avatar
    The point of my post is not the convenience of it, but the security and privacy (or lack of) attached to it. Do you not care to voluntarily give up information to people who may want it?
    09-17-2015 09:13 AM
  6. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Actually, a fingerprint scanner is still very much a novelty to me.

    When mobile payments take off, then I may consider getting a phone with one, but as of right now, I'm perfectly contempt with Knock Code on my G4.
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    09-17-2015 09:23 AM
  7. So Cold's Avatar
    The point of my post is not the convenience of it, but the security and privacy (or lack of) attached to it. Do you not care to voluntarily give up information to people who may want it?
    As dpham00 said, we plug all kinds of personal information into our phones and by letting my phone read my fingerprint I do not believe I am voluntarily giving up any of my information. Nor do I feel like I am voluntarily giving up my information when I access my bank account from my phone, or use android pay, or type any of my passwords in.

    If I did share the belief that whatever I input into my phone I am voluntarily giving to anyone who wants it then my first concern would be my financial information and things like my SSN before my fingerprint.

    So if I trust my phone enough to sign into my bank and use android pay then I trust it enough to look at my finger.
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    09-17-2015 09:23 AM
  8. YeahMon360's Avatar
    I acknowledged all that in my OP too. I get it. The trust is a facade. In reality, we just hope we aren't the "one" that gets victimized by ill-intent.
    09-17-2015 09:26 AM
  9. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    As dpham00 said, we plug all kinds of personal information into our phones and by letting my phone read my fingerprint I do not believe I am voluntarily giving up any of my information. Nor do I feel like I am voluntarily giving up my information when I access my bank account from my phone, or use android pay, or type any of my passwords in.

    If I did share the belief that whatever I input into my phone I am voluntarily giving to anyone who wants it then my first concern would be my financial information and things like my SSN before my fingerprint.

    So if I trust my phone enough to sign into my bank and use android pay then I trust it enough to look at my finger.
    Google knows where I live and work and what I like anyway. So it's not like it's a big deal now.

    Well, unless you wear tinfoils.
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    09-17-2015 09:26 AM
  10. ahaxton's Avatar
    I acknowledged all that in my OP too. I get it. The trust is a facade. In reality, we just hope we aren't the "one" that gets victimized by ill-intent.
    As stated before, your actual fingerprint is not secure anyway, anyone who wants to can already get it without having to hack your phone. Anyone can walk up to your desk, or your front door knob, or a pen you've used, a cup you throw away at McDonald's, and get your fingerprint.
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    09-17-2015 09:46 AM
  11. THARD11's Avatar
    I have one on my Samsung TabS and don't even use it. I tried but I could sign in quicker just using a PIN.
    09-17-2015 10:25 AM
  12. YeahMon360's Avatar
    I see. So justifying it like that makes it all ok?
    09-17-2015 10:35 AM
  13. So Cold's Avatar
    As stated before, your actual fingerprint is not secure anyway, anyone who wants to can already get it without having to hack your phone. Anyone can walk up to your desk, or your front door knob, or a pen you've used, a cup you throw away at McDonald's, and get your fingerprint.
    I see. So justifying it like that makes it all ok?
    I'm with yeahMon360 on this, let's get some real justification for ever eating at McDonalds.

    In all seriousness justify what exactly?
    09-17-2015 10:38 AM
  14. YeahMon360's Avatar
    I'm with yeahMon360 on this, let's get some real justification for ever eating at McDonalds.

    In all seriousness justify what exactly?
    Justify the possibility that your fingerprints could be accessed because someone could just follow you around anyway.

    Why inconvenience someone to tail you for that, when you can just accept to voluntarily give it up with your fingerprint scanner? It's too easy.
    09-17-2015 10:58 AM
  15. On2Vegas's Avatar
    Actually, a fingerprint scanner is still very much a novelty to me.

    When mobile payments take off, then I may consider getting a phone with one, but as of right now, I'm perfectly contempt with Knock Code on my G4.
    This is pretty much my feeling as well. I see the utility in a fingerprint scanner, but just don't see a need for it in my phone as yet. Once more apps and services are using its functionality, I'll look to include in my phone purchase. In my opinion, widespread use is at least a year away. I'll add it then. A PIN code is satisfactory for me at this time.
    09-17-2015 11:00 AM
  16. So Cold's Avatar
    Justify the possibility that your fingerprints could be accessed because someone could just follow you around anyway.

    Why inconvenience someone to tail you for that, when you can just accept to voluntarily give it up with your fingerprint scanner? It's too easy.
    Why are you so dead set on saying that about your fingerprint? Do you feel the same way about your passwords, banking info, personal info...?
    09-17-2015 11:13 AM
  17. diesel97's Avatar
    Why are you so dead set on saying that about your fingerprint? Do you feel the same way about your passwords, banking info, personal info...?
    And do what with your finger prints IF the BAD man gets it ? I really dont think that every time you use your thumb to open up your phone that your print goes to google
    09-17-2015 11:50 AM
  18. So Cold's Avatar
    And do what with your finger prints IF the BAD man gets it ? I really dont think that every time you use your thumb to open up your phone that your print goes to google
    Did you mean to quote me?
    09-17-2015 11:58 AM
  19. Stanley Kubrick's Avatar
    So many are worried about security?
    On the news we keep hearing how the Chinese government is hacking US companies!
    No offense to anyone who may be Chinese but I am willing to bet that in China they are saying on the news that the US government is hacking them!
    Besides, these phones are assembled in China...who's to say there isn't a secret piece of hardware built in that is sending everything we do on them straight back to China??? Hmmmm????
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    09-17-2015 12:28 PM
  20. YeahMon360's Avatar
    You're exactly right. I succumb to the privacy issues by using a cell phone. Am I worried? Not really. Other than occasional speeding in my truck, I don't break the law, so I have nothing to hide. But it does bother me the amount of data being collected about me and my habits. One day it might come back to bite us all in the ***.
    09-17-2015 12:33 PM
  21. diesel97's Avatar
    Did you mean to quote me?
    sorry no i didnt
    09-17-2015 12:35 PM
  22. Almeuit's Avatar
    I have had it on my previous iPhone 6+ and my Galaxy S6 -- It was nice but it definitely isn't a "MUST have" for me.
    09-17-2015 12:38 PM
  23. Ry's Avatar
    There's hullabaloo over this?

    Sounds like a non-issue.

    Or a not a deal breaker for most buyers.
    09-17-2015 12:52 PM
  24. ScottMGS's Avatar
    Not quite sure why this is in the Moto X Pure Edition forum since this phone doesn't even have a fingerprint reader. I think it's a valid discussion but it might have a wider audience in another forum.
    09-17-2015 01:44 PM
  25. YeahMon360's Avatar
    There's hullabaloo over this?

    Sounds like a non-issue.

    Or a not a deal breaker for most buyers.
    Seems like every review and forum you read into, there is someone griping about the lack of a fingerprint reader, and how it sways them from buying the device, and it's a dealbreaker, and the end of the smartphone world, etc etc etc.

    Not quite sure why this is in the Moto X Pure Edition forum since this phone doesn't even have a fingerprint reader. I think it's a valid discussion but it might have a wider audience in another forum.
    Please see above.
    09-17-2015 02:23 PM
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