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  1. VoltaicShock's Avatar
    Folks be careful with the adoptable storage, since it is encrypted and treats storage as one. This means you will have problems if using a cheap card or want to pull the card out for whatever reason. An example would be if wanting to increase storage size of the card. You will have to pretty much start from scratch if you do. Best to get the max size now, rather than afterwards. You can not simply transfer the content to another card. You have to reinstall everything.

    I got the 64GB MXPE, so will not assimilate my card as one with the Borg- er, Android storage. My 200GB card is staying as media only. Cleaner that way IMO
    Yeah people need to realize that. I am thinking of getting this one and adopting the storage.

    Micro SD EVO+ 128GB Memory Card w/ Adapter
    11-16-2015 10:43 AM
  2. thejesse's Avatar
    Thanks, that's good info!

    I got 64 GB internal, too - plenty of room for me. I plan to do the same as you with my 64 GB Sandisk Extreme SD Card...keep it as separate media and back-up storage.
    Same here, bought the 64GB version so I will always have plenty of room for apps. Using an SD card for media and intend to continue to use the SD as external storage once marshmallow arrives.
    I've also picked up an HTC One A9 32GB. I have an SD card arriving tomorrow which I intend to use as adorable storage in that phone. I will then be able to compare the two options.

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    11-16-2015 11:50 AM
  3. LeoRex's Avatar
    What does band 12 exactly do?
    Gives T-Mobile much better service... Band 12 is in the 700 Mhz range, which gives a couple of advantages over band 4 (1900/2100). First is range. B12 has greater range than 4, so in rural areas where they aren't about to put a ton of towers up, someone on the fringe of coverage when it was band 4 will have a better quality of signal. The second benefit is that the lower frequency allows for better penetration into buildings. They rolled out band 12 in my area a little while back and I noticed the difference right away. There is a Walmart in the nearby town that was where T-Mobile signals went to die. Once I got far enough inside the building, it was toast... no signal... ziltch. Recently, I got an email while I was in the middle of the store and saw that I not only had a signal, I had a GOOD signal.

    It has its drawbacks, of course... it doesn't have the bandwidth of 4 and couldn't support as many simulaneous users, but it's not an either/or situation. Their towers support both bands, doling them out to people based on their situation. You'll stick on band 4, T-Mobile's workhorse, unless things get a bit twitchy, then you might get popped over the 12.
    11-16-2015 12:48 PM
  4. Stanley Kubrick's Avatar
    Folks be careful with the adoptable storage, since it is encrypted and treats storage as one.
    Why encrypted? I was of the understanding that only those phones that come OOB with Marshmallow are encrypted? The pure will not automatically encrypt with Marshmallow unless you do the encryption manually as we can now with Lollipop. Or am I missing something here?
    11-17-2015 10:11 AM
  5. VoltaicShock's Avatar
    Why encrypted? I was of the understanding that only those phones that come OOB with Marshmallow are encrypted? The pure will not automatically encrypt with Marshmallow unless you do the encryption manually as we can now with Lollipop. Or am I missing something here?
    Looks like when you adopt it it becomes encrypted.

    Android 6.0 can treat SD cards as internal storage... at a cost - Liliputing

    [Android M Feature Spotlight] External Storage Can Be 'Adopted' As True Internal Storage Or Accessed Normally With No Additional Apps
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    11-17-2015 10:43 AM
  6. Clocks's Avatar
    The SD card is encrypted when you turn on adoptable storage, not your entire phone.
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    11-17-2015 01:14 PM
  7. LongbranchPennywhistle's Avatar
    The SD card is encrypted when you turn on adoptable storage, not your entire phone.
    Correct, it would be expected that the card would be encrypted though, as encryption by default is becoming mandatory with 6.0, you can basically expect seeing encryption from this point on with android.

    Android 6.0 re-implements mandatory storage encryption for new devices | Ars Technica

    Although technically speaking the Pure upgraded to marshmallow falls under the exempt category, you would expect any new features in 6.0 like adoptable storage to go with encryption. I'm all in favor of it imo anyway.
    11-17-2015 02:03 PM
  8. Ntchwaidumela's Avatar
    The difference is that AT&T sells the Nexus 6. They do not sell the Moto X Pure Edition. I believe all Moto X Pure Edition owners have the same 5.1.1 build.
    Right. Updates to the phone don't come from the carriers, but from Motorola. Just like Nexus devices get upgrades directly from Google. The SIM only allows it to use the carrier's network.

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    11-17-2015 09:30 PM
  9. Sullie714's Avatar
    Right. Updates to the phone don't come from the carriers, but from Motorola. Just like Nexus devices get upgrades directly from Google. The SIM only allows it to use the carrier's network.
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    My Unlocked purchased directly from Motorola Nexus 6 which used to have an AT&T SIM in it is not OTA updating to Marshmallow. I am not alone in this. I currently have a MOTO Pure 2015 and I have had my Nexus 6 sitting on my desk for 3 weeks now with NO SIM card in it, performing FDR's every day and coming back up on WIFI only and yet STILL NO OTA for Marshmallow while others have had it for a month, again this is an unlocked direct from Moto Nexus 6 with absolutely nothing to do with AT&T other than its use on the network before the MXPE. I believe the problem has been narrowed down to Nexus phones which received the LMY48W build while on the AT&T network at some point in their use in the last year. If you would like to peruse some of the posts on the Nexus 6 page regarding this issue here is a link. http://forums.androidcentral.com/goo...y-6-0-ota.html

    here is hoping that my MXPE (currently in use with AT&T) updates to Marshmallow on my phone as fast as every one else once the OTA starts, I think it will.
    11-18-2015 04:27 AM
  10. MTeator's Avatar
    My Unlocked purchased directly from Motorola Nexus 6 which used to have an AT&T SIM in it is not OTA updating to Marshmallow. I am not alone in this. I currently have a MOTO Pure 2015 and I have had my Nexus 6 sitting on my desk for 3 weeks now with NO SIM card in it, performing FDR's every day and coming back up on WIFI only and yet STILL NO OTA for Marshmallow while others have had it for a month, again this is an unlocked direct from Moto Nexus 6 with absolutely nothing to do with AT&T other than its use on the network before the MXPE. I believe the problem has been narrowed down to Nexus phones which received the LMY48W build while on the AT&T network at some point in their use in the last year. If you would like to peruse some of the posts on the Nexus 6 page regarding this issue here is a link. http://forums.androidcentral.com/goo...y-6-0-ota.html

    here is hoping that my MXPE (currently in use with AT&T) updates to Marshmallow on my phone as fast as every one else once the OTA starts, I think it will.
    Same experience. This is one that was bought straight from Google. Obviously with the Nexus you can sideload marshmallow easily, but I'd like to see the OTA as matter of freaking principle.

    Android 6.0 Marshmallow for the Moto X Pure Edition (24.11.18)-n6.jpg
    11-18-2015 09:35 AM
  11. Ry's Avatar
    My Unlocked purchased directly from Motorola Nexus 6 which used to have an AT&T SIM in it is not OTA updating to Marshmallow. I am not alone in this. I currently have a MOTO Pure 2015 and I have had my Nexus 6 sitting on my desk for 3 weeks now with NO SIM card in it, performing FDR's every day and coming back up on WIFI only and yet STILL NO OTA for Marshmallow while others have had it for a month, again this is an unlocked direct from Moto Nexus 6 with absolutely nothing to do with AT&T other than its use on the network before the MXPE. I believe the problem has been narrowed down to Nexus phones which received the LMY48W build while on the AT&T network at some point in their use in the last year. If you would like to peruse some of the posts on the Nexus 6 page regarding this issue here is a link. http://forums.androidcentral.com/goo...y-6-0-ota.html

    here is hoping that my MXPE (currently in use with AT&T) updates to Marshmallow on my phone as fast as every one else once the OTA starts, I think it will.
    ..sucks that you guys have been having these issues.

    ..but it would be hilarious if a customer using the Moto X Pure Edition on AT&T got an OTA to Marshmallow before a customer using a Nexus 6 on AT&T...
    11-18-2015 12:50 PM
  12. MTeator's Avatar
    ..sucks that you guys have been having these issues.

    ..but it would be hilarious if a customer using the Moto X Pure Edition on AT&T got an OTA to Marshmallow before a customer using a Nexus 6 on AT&T...
    I'll follow-up what happens
    11-18-2015 12:52 PM
  13. Sullie714's Avatar
    ..sucks that you guys have been having these issues. ..but it would be hilarious if a customer using the Moto X Pure Edition on AT&T got an OTA to Marshmallow before a customer using a Nexus 6 on AT&T...


    It would not surprise me at all if my MXPE gets it before the Nexus 6, I just hope the OTA comes to us AT&T unlocked Pure users quickly and more importantly without having to resort to the dreaded FDR Sim pull......
    11-18-2015 02:46 PM
  14. PeltFrelken's Avatar
    Will Marshmallow allow for the MXPE to utilize the Notification Light? (without rooting)

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    11-18-2015 03:43 PM
  15. Ry's Avatar
    Will Marshmallow allow for the MXPE to utilize the Notification Light? (without rooting)

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    It's not in the Moto X Style release notes that are now publicly available so I doubt it will be in the Moto X Pure Edition.
    11-18-2015 04:00 PM
  16. MTeator's Avatar
    Got an update on the Nexus 6 today, but it was just the Nov security update to 5.1.1 LMY48Y

    Makes you wonder how Google has lost control over their own devices like this.
    11-18-2015 07:39 PM
  17. Westiemom's Avatar
    I think I might have already said this somewhere, so forgive if I have, but my husband just got his Nexus 6 last week, new from Verizon so its a carrier edition, and it updated to 6.0 within 3 hours of activating it. Why would that be? Anybody else on Verizon have it?

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    11-18-2015 09:43 PM
  18. MTeator's Avatar
    I think I might have already said this somewhere, so forgive if I have, but my husband just got his Nexus 6 last week, new from Verizon so its a carrier edition, and it updated to 6.0 within 3 hours of activating it. Why would that be? Anybody else on Verizon have it?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    My understanding is that only at&t and T-Mobile are blocking it.
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    11-18-2015 10:28 PM
  19. wckesq's Avatar
    I think I might have already said this somewhere, so forgive if I have, but my husband just got his Nexus 6 last week, new from Verizon so its a carrier edition, and it updated to 6.0 within 3 hours of activating it. Why would that be? Anybody else on Verizon have it?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Still don't have it on my N6 on VZW.
    11-19-2015 02:02 PM
  20. LeoRex's Avatar
    My understanding is that only at&t and T-Mobile are blocking it.
    T-Mobile just released the OTA....

    Not sure what the issue is... I've used the main 6.0 branch since launch without any issues and Wifi Calling, VoLTE, Band 12... they all work. Even VoLTE ON band 12 works.
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    11-23-2015 01:47 PM
  21. Ryaan Johnson's Avatar
    Folks be careful with the adoptable storage, since it is encrypted and treats storage as one. This means you will have problems if using a cheap card or want to pull the card out for whatever reason. An example would be if wanting to increase storage size of the card. You will have to pretty much start from scratch if you do. Best to get the max size now, rather than afterwards. You can not simply transfer the content to another card. You have to reinstall everything.

    I got the 64GB MXPE, so will not assimilate my card as one with the Borg- er, Android storage. My 200GB card is staying as media only. Cleaner that way IMO
    So glad I sent back the 16gig and came a lil extra out the pocket for 64gig.. I live sd cards but the extra breathing room lets me sleep easy at night

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    11-25-2015 07:54 AM
  22. AKFL3TCH3R's Avatar
    Is it bad that I have the 16GB version then? :/ because I've had 16GB phones and have never had a problem..

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    11-25-2015 01:42 PM
  23. Unobtanium's Avatar
    Is it bad that I have the 16GB version then? :/ because I've had 16GB phones and have never had a problem..

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    I have a 16 GB, last phone was a 32GB Maxx. I have a 128 GB SanDisk SD card for photos, and what little music and media I keep on the phone. I have about 3GB of space on the onboard memory. I have had zero problems, especially any that I can trace to or suspect are memory related.

    Posted from my XT1575
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    11-25-2015 01:59 PM
  24. schwars1's Avatar
    I have a 16 GB, last phone was a 32GB Maxx. I have a 128 GB SanDisk SD card for photos, and what little music and media I keep on the phone. I have about 3GB of space on the onboard memory. I have had zero problems, especially any that I can trace to or suspect are memory related.

    Posted from my XT1575
    I'm in the exact same boat, except with a 32GB SD card. Also no issues to report other than I find that clearing my cache storage from time to time gives me an extra GB of internal storage. Once merged, that should no longer be necessary/beneficial as I'll have 48GB total.
    dmark44 likes this.
    11-25-2015 02:05 PM
  25. AKFL3TCH3R's Avatar
    I'm excited to merge an SD card on my phone 😁

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    11-25-2015 02:23 PM
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