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  1. youngusaplaya's Avatar
    My MXPE updated to to Marshmallow Tuesday around noon AKST on Verizon. I wasn't signed up for anything, it was just a random OTA update.

    Noticed that the native flashlight gesture and functionality is gone, now. Bummer. Anyone else notice?
    Mine still works
    12-04-2015 02:42 AM
  2. radgatt's Avatar
    Mine still works
    Same here
    12-04-2015 07:11 AM
  3. MTeator's Avatar
    My MXPE updated to to Marshmallow Tuesday around noon AKST on Verizon. I wasn't signed up for anything, it was just a random OTA update.

    Noticed that the native flashlight gesture and functionality is gone, now. Bummer. Anyone else notice?
    You got lucky when they accidentally released it for some people.
    12-04-2015 08:15 AM
  4. Shimon Mor's Avatar
    My MXPE updated to to Marshmallow Tuesday around noon AKST on Verizon. I wasn't signed up for anything, it was just a random OTA update.

    Noticed that the native flashlight gesture and functionality is gone, now. Bummer. Anyone else notice?
    I got 6.0 a couple of days ago. Also on Verizon and also didn't sign up for anything. It just showed up.

    Flashlight double-chop still works for me.

    Overall, I don't see anything special with 6.0. I guess the only real big "upgrade" would be the adaptive storage which is a nice feature...but I'm firmly in portable storage camp. I have not liked the direction Google has taken with Android. I see Gingerbread as probably the version I liked the best and have only seen Android trying to become more iOS like since then. Now that I've had the phone for a couple of weeks and 6.0 seems to be working I'll go ahead and root the phone so I can install some Xposed framworks to build the Android that works best for me. Sincerely, Unimpressed with Google.
    12-04-2015 08:19 AM
  5. Clocks's Avatar
    Marshmallow is really android 5.2. Its a refinement of what L should have been. Not much significant was added for most users to experience other than doze really. But in my opinion it is by far the best android yet.
    12-04-2015 08:28 AM
  6. MTeator's Avatar
    Marshmallow is really android 5.2. Its a refinement of what L should have been. Not much significant was added for most users to experience other than doze really. But in my opinion it is by far the best android yet.
    I really like the improved Do Not Disturb, plus the native fingerprint support for phones with the hardware.
    12-04-2015 08:46 AM
  7. Tom in Bristol's Avatar
    Noticed that the native flashlight gesture and functionality is gone, now. Bummer. Anyone else notice?
    Open the Moto app, tap on the 3 little stars in the upper right, tap on the 3 dots upper right on the 'See what I can do' screen and tap on Settings ... ensure that all 3 items are checked. The versions listed at the bottom for me are:
    Moto: Ver 4.0.21
    Moto Voice: Ver 8.0.07.1
    Moto Display: 3.16-M.12-S22.3-000
    Moto Actions: Ver 2.00.07

    And my Actions list Approach, Attentive Display, Chop, Lift for Moto Voice and Twist.
    12-04-2015 09:42 AM
  8. Unobtanium's Avatar
    How does one check to see if they have the update?
    Settings > About Phone > System Updates. Click on it and it will check. If there is an update available, it will say so. You might need to be connected to WiFi to get it to download. But it should check either way

    Posted from my XT1575
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    12-04-2015 10:44 AM
  9. Ryaan Johnson's Avatar
    I got 6.0 a couple of days ago. Also on Verizon and also didn't sign up for anything. It just showed up.

    Flashlight double-chop still works for me.

    Overall, I don't see anything special with 6.0. I guess the only real big "upgrade" would be the adaptive storage which is a nice feature...but I'm firmly in portable storage camp. I have not liked the direction Google has taken with Android. I see Gingerbread as probably the version I liked the best and have only seen Android trying to become more iOS like since then. Now that I've had the phone for a couple of weeks and 6.0 seems to be working I'll go ahead and root the phone so I can install some Xposed framworks to build the Android that works best for me. Sincerely, Unimpressed with Google.
    The beauty of droid. If you do not like it you can change it to your liking. I love the direction Google has taken droid. I really have no need to root or rom anymore.. Droid does everything I need it to now without rooting or romming

    Posted via the Android Central App
    12-04-2015 10:51 AM
  10. dmark44's Avatar
    The single biggest feature I'm looking forward to is the app data back-up and restore. I believe it's up to App developers to enable it, but hopefully they will. Hopefully the next phone upgrade will be less painful when migrating.

    That's the one time I'm jealous of my family's iOS devices (or my iPad) - when we switch/upgrade devices.
    12-04-2015 11:06 AM
  11. Jordyboy132's Avatar
    I have checked that, turned it off and back on, etc. My flashlight seems just to have vanished. It's no longer in my toolbar either.
    12-04-2015 12:20 PM
  12. EJT's Avatar
    I have checked that, turned it off and back on, etc. My flashlight seems just to have vanished. It's no longer in my toolbar either.
    Try enabling the system UI tuner. It's in stock marshmallow, so I'd assume it's in this release (I don't have 6.0 on my pure yet). Press and hold the settings gear from the drop down menu. It will begin to spin. Hold it for like 15 seconds. A little wrench will appear next to the settings icon. The go into settings, and you should see "System UI Tuner" at the very bottom. That should allow you to modify your quick settings and bring the flashlight back.

    Again, this works on stock 6.0, so I'd assume it works with Moto's version too.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    12-05-2015 08:58 AM
  13. jasimpson89's Avatar
    how are peoples battery life with the update? Does doze work quite well on the MXPE?
    12-07-2015 06:13 AM
  14. Shimon Mor's Avatar
    how are peoples battery life with the update? Does doze work quite well on the MXPE?
    I think my battery is about the same. No changes. I don't really see how Doze helps. It only works when the phone is immobile. My phone is either on my belt clip or in my pocket or in hand. So through the day, Doze will never enable. The only time Doze would enable is when the phone is on my desk while I'm asleep. But at this point, the phone is plugged in. So, for me, Doze is pretty useless.

    From the AC article about Doze:
    For Doze to kick in, your phone needs to be sitting still with the screen off, and not connected to a charger. That means no moving around and nudging the gyro or other motion sensors, no touching the screen or the buttons and no waving your hand around in front of it if you're using a phone like the new phones from Motorola that have motion detection on the front bezel. Set it down, and leave it alone.
    Who sets their phone down for extended periods of time? I'm sure some people do, but most have it in their sweaty little hands or in their pockets. The only time people set down their phone for any length of time is while they sleep. And, I believe, most people charge their phone overnight. There are those who don't..so I can see Doze as a benefit for them..but why not just plug it in? Wake up with 100%.
    12-07-2015 06:47 AM
  15. jasimpson89's Avatar
    Well for a lot of the day at work I sit my phone on the desk and don't really look at and often I'll go to meetings (for hours on end) where I don't need my phone so it just sits on my desk. I have pushline set up on my desktop for incoming notifications. Also handy when you leave it in the house on a the side .
    12-07-2015 07:20 AM
  16. popartist's Avatar
    When I am at the office my phone usually is just sitting there on my desk, so Doze would kick in for me. But, I find that battery drain now when the phone is sitting idle is extremely minimal anyway, so Doze would not make much more of a difference.
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    12-07-2015 07:30 AM
  17. Shimon Mor's Avatar
    Actually, the more I think about it...Google is pretty devious. Android users the world over clamor for better battery life. So Google announces "Doze" to help improve battery life. There's just one catch...you have to set your phone down and not use it or touch it. Image that. By not using your phone you will improve battery life.

    A bit of tongue in cheek as I realize that phones, even when not being used, consume a significant amount of power. And Doze was created to alleviate that issue. But I still find it amusing that in order to take advantage of this feature...you can't touch your phone. Am I the only one who is piqued by this irony?
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    12-07-2015 07:44 AM
  18. gjhoddy's Avatar
    If you leave your car off parked in the garage you will get better gas mileage

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    12-07-2015 07:55 AM
  19. dmark44's Avatar
    I think Moto's sleep function works almost as well as Doze. I have left my MXPE off of the charger a couple of nights and no more than 4% of the battery drained either time.
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    12-07-2015 08:17 AM
  20. MTeator's Avatar
    Actually, the more I think about it...Google is pretty devious. Android users the world over clamor for better battery life. So Google announces "Doze" to help improve battery life. There's just one catch...you have to set your phone down and not use it or touch it. Image that. By not using your phone you will improve battery life.

    A bit of tongue in cheek as I realize that phones, even when not being used, consume a significant amount of power. And Doze was created to alleviate that issue. But I still find it amusing that in order to take advantage of this feature...you can't touch your phone. Am I the only one who is piqued by this irony?
    I find it a bigger deal for tablets than phones.
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    12-07-2015 09:47 AM
  21. Ry's Avatar
    Actually, the more I think about it...Google is pretty devious. Android users the world over clamor for better battery life. So Google announces "Doze" to help improve battery life. There's just one catch...you have to set your phone down and not use it or touch it. Image that. By not using your phone you will improve battery life.

    A bit of tongue in cheek as I realize that phones, even when not being used, consume a significant amount of power. And Doze was created to alleviate that issue. But I still find it amusing that in order to take advantage of this feature...you can't touch your phone. Am I the only one who is piqued by this irony?
    Nope. Android devices have had historically bad standby time. Doze addresses that.

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    12-07-2015 11:18 AM
  22. Ry's Avatar
    If you leave your car off parked in the garage you will get better gas mileage

    Posted via the Android Central App
    No you won't. The car is off so MPG remains the same.

    You analogy doesn't work.

    It's more like sitting idle in traffic.

    The better analogy is

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
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    12-07-2015 11:20 AM
  23. rushmore's Avatar
    Well for a lot of the day at work I sit my phone on the desk and don't really look at and often I'll go to meetings (for hours on end) where I don't need my phone so it just sits on my desk. I have pushline set up on my desktop for incoming notifications. Also handy when you leave it in the house on a the side .
    The device has to be both immobile and not being used for doze to work. It essentially is trying to clone iOS device's low battery bleed. Still not as good, but better than it was.

    Want some funny reading, go back and read posts of people estimating battery life would be twice as good. This is after the huge letdown with Lollipop in the same regard. Funny stuff.
    12-07-2015 01:01 PM
  24. rushmore's Avatar
    No you won't. The car is off so MPG remains the same.

    You analogy doesn't work.

    It's more like sitting idle in traffic.

    The better analogy is

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    The better non-analogy would be for people to stop buying all the hype BS that Android team spills out. They did it with Lollipop and folks bought all the great battery life BS, just as some are with Marshmallow.
    12-07-2015 01:07 PM
  25. AKFL3TCH3R's Avatar
    Does anyone have any news on the release date for this software version? It's been about a week since people have been in the soak test, so maybe another week? I'm getting super anxious for it haha.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    12-07-2015 01:11 PM
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